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ROYAL SECRET of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY (32nd Degree)

 
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Would anyone like to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is?

Keep in mind that "secrets" in Freemasonry (other than passwords, hand shakes, gestures, etc.) are not given. Everything is cloaked in allegory, metaphor, and symbolism. Thus, 99.9% of 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons don't know the ROYAL SECRET (despite what they might or might not have been led to believe). The "juicy" bits of Freemasonry are not revealed openly even to the Craft's initiates, but rather through a combination of a symbolically veiled allegory AND reflection and study by the individual Mason.

In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason.

Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :)
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theres nothing to reveal except we came from the fucking stars, the constellations plot the same as the silly pyramids...thats it, we are aliens.
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Why am I a shill? I created a forum for anyone to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET in Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is.

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Is it a magic word that begins...agni....?
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God and the devil are on in the same.
My friend who is a 33rder told me that.
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Templarism serves the pope in Rome - all secrets have been made known.
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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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The sodomization of a boy-child in a deranged attempt to reach so-called "trans-yuggothic" dimensions and contact demons.

Fact.
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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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There's no truth in the gnostic cult.
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Devils and serpents are symbolism for the annunaki, reptilian humanoids who created the latest upgrade of humans
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I assume that is about the time that they tell the mason that God is proven to not be real, and that by doing evil, you can attain wealth and power, and not have to feel guilty about going to Hell...

Am I close?
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In my opinion, the Bible is, indeed, "the greatest story ever told". But, like the greatest of books, it contains stories within stories. Again, symbolism, metaphor, allegory. Unfortunately, many have taken it (or been told to take it, rather) literally. Literally, it's nothing special. An ancestral blood line. Some pieces of legitimate history here and there, mixed in with myth. Some parables. Speculation about the future. If that's all it is, why is that a great story? There's more in there for those with the eyes to see.
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I assume that is about the time that they tell the mason that God is proven to not be real, and that by doing evil, you can attain wealth and power, and not have to feel guilty about going to Hell...

Am I close?
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I can only speak for myself, but I think the following is true for most people: I don't not do ill toward others because of a perceived threat of some sort of eternal damnation. I try not to do ill toward others because I wouldn't want them to do so toward me. How can someone do something bad to another and not have it bother his/her conscience; but then someone does that same thing to him/her, and he/she doesn't like it? I think that's the definition of a sociopath.
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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit?

Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money?

Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor".

Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise.

Explain that kind of oppressor to me...
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In a different kind of way we are still mining the gold for the annunaki to this day
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In a different kind of way we are still mining the gold for the annunaki to this day
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What kind of "Gods" have the technology to travel across Universe, will need people to mine gold for them?

Today we have those big machines that take huge amounts of dirt, would those ETs need us for mining gold?

I beleive they would be more like those humans that went to that other planet in Avatar. Getting there with huge machines, and throwing the natives away with them.

Why would you need monkeys to do that kind of job when you have technology??
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They were on a short time frame, show the humans how to extract gold without the tech cos they had to split, nibiru dont have brakes ya know lol
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If the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is the worship of Lucifer, does that translate to the worship of an actual entity named Lucifer ("the Light bearer"), or the concept of enlightenment, logic, and reason?

Lucifer was associated with Venus, "the morning star", because during its heliacal rising, it's the brightest (LIGHT!) object in the early morning sky.

Speaking of heliacal rising, a slight digression here; but an interesting one, I think...
The term "dog days of summer" comes from ancient Egypt. Each August, generally the hottest month of the Egyptian summer, the Nile would flood its banks in lower Egypt (read: northern Egypt. Remember, the Nile flows south to north), depositing rich, fertile, black soil along the riverbanks, providing essential nourishment for the ancient Egyptians' crops. Ancient Egyptians called the land they lived in KMT (no vowels back then. So today, we'd call it KeMeT), which means "Black Land", named after this deposition of rich, black soil from the overflowing Nile (NOT because they were "black Africans"). Remember, the headwaters of the Nile River are far to the south in the highlands of Ethiopia. After the heavy spring rains in those Ethiopian highlands, it took the waters until roughly August to reach the important population centers along the northern Nile River valley in lower Egypt. This inundation of rich, black soil from the Nile would occur in August, when Sirius, the DOG Star, would rise for a brief moment just before sunrise (heliacal rising) after a period of time when it had not been visible. Thus, the term "dog days of summer": the heliacal rising of Sirius would alert the Egyptians to the imminent (and essential) replenishment of nutrients to their soil via the flooding Nile River. This occurred in the hottest month of the summer, August. DOG DAYS OF SUMMER.

As above, so below.

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If the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is the worship of Lucifer, does that translate to the worship of an actual entity named Lucifer ("the Light bearer"), or the concept of enlightenment, logic, and reason?

Lucifer was associated with Venus, "the morning star", because during its heliacal rising, it's the brightest (LIGHT!) object in the early morning sky.

Speaking of heliacal rising, a slight digression here; but an interesting one, I think...
The term "dog days of summer" comes from ancient Egypt. Each August, generally the hottest month of the Egyptian summer, the Nile would flood its banks in lower Egypt (read: northern Egypt. Remember, the Nile flows south to north), depositing rich, fertile, black soil along the riverbanks, providing essential nourishment for the ancient Egyptians' crops. Ancient Egyptians called the land they lived in KMT (no vowels back then. So today, we'd call it KeMeT), which means "Black Land", named after this deposition of rich, black soil from the overflowing Nile (NOT because they were "black Africans"). Remember, the headwaters of the Nile River are far to the south in the highlands of Ethiopia. After the heavy spring rains in those Ethiopian highlands, it took the waters until roughly August to reach the important population centers along the northern Nile River valley in lower Egypt. This inundation of rich, black soil from the Nile would occur in August, when Sirius, the DOG Star, would rise for a brief moment just before sunrise (heliacal rising) after a period of time when it had not been visible. Thus, the term "dog days of summer": the heliacal rising of Sirius would alert the Egyptians to the imminent (and essential) replenishment of nutrients to their soil via the flooding Nile River. This occurred in the hottest month of the summer, August. DOG DAYS OF SUMMER.

As above, so below.

In Jordan Maxwell voice: "It's AAAALL a-str-o-lo-gy."
 Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699


Are you going to answer me about how God could be the opressor? When we could do ANYTHING in Paradise, but listen to the bullshit of Lucifer?
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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
 Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699



Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit?

Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money?

Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor".

Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise.

Explain that kind of oppressor to me...
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To your point about "Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but eat of that fruit?", a defender of "Lucifer" and/or the idea of "a Light bearer" of logic, reason, and enlightenment might argue that that's a BIG "BUT" (no pun intended). If eating the fruit from the "Tree of Knowledge" meant the ability to know as the gods, that's a damn big BUT. To illustrate the point, I picture a modern day religious person walking around with a goofy, naive smile on his/her face, preaching their particular "gospel", but being absolutely (yet blissfully, apparently, because of their smile) ignorant. Personally, I would rather be enlightened and live a finite life, than live forever in ignorance. What kind of life would that be?

To your point about "Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an 'oppressor'"...Well, the same could be said about Yahweh/God and those who follow that religion. In fact, that's the world in which we've lived in western civilization for the past 2,000 years -- a world where the entity who attempted to squash enlightenment is the "good" figure. Says who? The Church, of course.
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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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You can't get enlightenment through knowledge. knowledge is limitless. You can't know everything. Are you a master at health, engineering, metallurgy? Do you know how to heal cancer, build your own house, and make monotomic gold, as well as build your own electric car with batteries? So at at the point your knowledge is lacking, you lose. Someone else will step in and take from you. If you lack in knowledge about health, your health will fail you, and you'll have to go to someone else for health knowledge, most likely a doctor. Even that doctor who spent 20 years formal education learning about health can't know everything. So at some point, his knowledge will fail him, and you will die. Everyone dies.

But let's say someone found a foutnain of youth. Well, everyone would want it, or let's say 90% of the population will want it. Most likely that fountain of youth can't sustain 90% of the population, or even if it could, the world can't sustain 90% of the population plus 90% of the increasing population.

So what turned out to be a miracle is now a curse. Light-bearer is now devilish. Good is now evil.
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If the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is the worship of Lucifer, does that translate to the worship of an actual entity named Lucifer ("the Light bearer"), or the concept of enlightenment, logic, and reason?

Lucifer was associated with Venus, "the morning star", because during its heliacal rising, it's the brightest (LIGHT!) object in the early morning sky.

Speaking of heliacal rising, a slight digression here; but an interesting one, I think...
The term "dog days of summer" comes from ancient Egypt. Each August, generally the hottest month of the Egyptian summer, the Nile would flood its banks in lower Egypt (read: northern Egypt. Remember, the Nile flows south to north), depositing rich, fertile, black soil along the riverbanks, providing essential nourishment for the ancient Egyptians' crops. Ancient Egyptians called the land they lived in KMT (no vowels back then. So today, we'd call it KeMeT), which means "Black Land", named after this deposition of rich, black soil from the overflowing Nile (NOT because they were "black Africans"). Remember, the headwaters of the Nile River are far to the south in the highlands of Ethiopia. After the heavy spring rains in those Ethiopian highlands, it took the waters until roughly August to reach the important population centers along the northern Nile River valley in lower Egypt. This inundation of rich, black soil from the Nile would occur in August, when Sirius, the DOG Star, would rise for a brief moment just before sunrise (heliacal rising) after a period of time when it had not been visible. Thus, the term "dog days of summer": the heliacal rising of Sirius would alert the Egyptians to the imminent (and essential) replenishment of nutrients to their soil via the flooding Nile River. This occurred in the hottest month of the summer, August. DOG DAYS OF SUMMER.

As above, so below.

In Jordan Maxwell voice: "It's AAAALL a-str-o-lo-gy."
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Are you going to answer me about how God could be the opressor? When we could do ANYTHING in Paradise, but listen to the bullshit of Lucifer?
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That's the point. "The bullshit of Lucifer", as you say, WAS ENLIGHTENMENT. If you want to call that "bullshit", you're free to do so. It seems to me that without enlightenment, we'd be chimpanzees; or Neanderthals at best.
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Unfortunately my grand father is not alive..but I doubt he would say. He was a grand master..and a great man
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But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

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Unfortunately my grand father is not alive..but I doubt he would say. He was a grand master..and a great man because he loved and had a heart..he was honest respectable and kind and helped those in need...
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Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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You can't get enlightenment through knowledge. knowledge is limitless. You can't know everything. Are you a master at health, engineering, metallurgy? Do you know how to heal cancer, build your own house, and make monotomic gold, as well as build your own electric car with batteries? So at at the point your knowledge is lacking, you lose. Someone else will step in and take from you. If you lack in knowledge about health, your health will fail you, and you'll have to go to someone else for health knowledge, most likely a doctor. Even that doctor who spent 20 years formal education learning about health can't know everything. So at some point, his knowledge will fail him, and you will die. Everyone dies.

But let's say someone found a foutnain of youth. Well, everyone would want it, or let's say 90% of the population will want it. Most likely that fountain of youth can't sustain 90% of the population, or even if it could, the world can't sustain 90% of the population plus 90% of the increasing population.

So what turned out to be a miracle is now a curse. Light-bearer is now devilish. Good is now evil.
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I think logic or reason (as opposed to knowledge) would be a more accurate description of "enlightenment". The ability to critically think, which is the ability that sets us apart from every other animal on earth. We share common traits with other mammals, but where we differ is our ability to critically think; to use logic and reason.
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If the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is the worship of Lucifer, does that translate to the worship of an actual entity named Lucifer ("the Light bearer"), or the concept of enlightenment, logic, and reason?

Lucifer was associated with Venus, "the morning star", because during its heliacal rising, it's the brightest (LIGHT!) object in the early morning sky.

Speaking of heliacal rising, a slight digression here; but an interesting one, I think...
The term "dog days of summer" comes from ancient Egypt. Each August, generally the hottest month of the Egyptian summer, the Nile would flood its banks in lower Egypt (read: northern Egypt. Remember, the Nile flows south to north), depositing rich, fertile, black soil along the riverbanks, providing essential nourishment for the ancient Egyptians' crops. Ancient Egyptians called the land they lived in KMT (no vowels back then. So today, we'd call it KeMeT), which means "Black Land", named after this deposition of rich, black soil from the overflowing Nile (NOT because they were "black Africans"). Remember, the headwaters of the Nile River are far to the south in the highlands of Ethiopia. After the heavy spring rains in those Ethiopian highlands, it took the waters until roughly August to reach the important population centers along the northern Nile River valley in lower Egypt. This inundation of rich, black soil from the Nile would occur in August, when Sirius, the DOG Star, would rise for a brief moment just before sunrise (heliacal rising) after a period of time when it had not been visible. Thus, the term "dog days of summer": the heliacal rising of Sirius would alert the Egyptians to the imminent (and essential) replenishment of nutrients to their soil via the flooding Nile River. This occurred in the hottest month of the summer, August. DOG DAYS OF SUMMER.

As above, so below.

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BS. Never the egyptians called Sirius 'the dog star'. That was a greek thing.
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I have been told he is probably in hell because he was a grand master..oh really

Luckily heaven isnt bought by kneeling and saying empty words repeatedly
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

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But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
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In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason.

Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :)
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Even if I found the link to it, to reflect on it, I would have to read from degree 1-32 online to get an idea and frankly I do not wish to get into their records.

I simply hope for them that not a moran from GLP would understand it, it would have fallen pretty low.
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Anyone has as much chance to decipher it as anyone else. The 32nd Degree ritual isn't long. It can be found easily and read quickly.

That which is truly special is worthy of the search. The "search", in this case, meaning introspection, reflection, study...in short, CRITICAL THOUGHT. And we've come full circle: Lucifer = Light Bearer = Enlightenment = Logic/Reason/Critical thought.
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If the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is the worship of Lucifer, does that translate to the worship of an actual entity named Lucifer ("the Light bearer"), or the concept of enlightenment, logic, and reason?

Lucifer was associated with Venus, "the morning star", because during its heliacal rising, it's the brightest (LIGHT!) object in the early morning sky.

Speaking of heliacal rising, a slight digression here; but an interesting one, I think...
The term "dog days of summer" comes from ancient Egypt. Each August, generally the hottest month of the Egyptian summer, the Nile would flood its banks in lower Egypt (read: northern Egypt. Remember, the Nile flows south to north), depositing rich, fertile, black soil along the riverbanks, providing essential nourishment for the ancient Egyptians' crops. Ancient Egyptians called the land they lived in KMT (no vowels back then. So today, we'd call it KeMeT), which means "Black Land", named after this deposition of rich, black soil from the overflowing Nile (NOT because they were "black Africans"). Remember, the headwaters of the Nile River are far to the south in the highlands of Ethiopia. After the heavy spring rains in those Ethiopian highlands, it took the waters until roughly August to reach the important population centers along the northern Nile River valley in lower Egypt. This inundation of rich, black soil from the Nile would occur in August, when Sirius, the DOG Star, would rise for a brief moment just before sunrise (heliacal rising) after a period of time when it had not been visible. Thus, the term "dog days of summer": the heliacal rising of Sirius would alert the Egyptians to the imminent (and essential) replenishment of nutrients to their soil via the flooding Nile River. This occurred in the hottest month of the summer, August. DOG DAYS OF SUMMER.

As above, so below.

In Jordan Maxwell voice: "It's AAAALL a-str-o-lo-gy."
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Are you going to answer me about how God could be the opressor? When we could do ANYTHING in Paradise, but listen to the bullshit of Lucifer?
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That's the point. "The bullshit of Lucifer", as you say, WAS ENLIGHTENMENT. If you want to call that "bullshit", you're free to do so. It seems to me that without enlightenment, we'd be chimpanzees; or Neanderthals at best.
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Quoting myself:

"Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit?

Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money?

Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor".

Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise."
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I have been told he is probably in hell because he was a grand master..oh really

Luckily heaven isnt bought by kneeling and saying empty words repeatedly
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I can assure you he's not in "hell". And I say that not because he was a Freemason. I say that because hell is the creation of man. Certain men, rather. Certain men seeking power over other men.

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