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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 10/15/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA". Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power. If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor. Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit? Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money? Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor". Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise. Explain that kind of oppressor to me... To your point about "Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but eat of that fruit?", a defender of "Lucifer" and/or the idea of "a Light bearer" of logic, reason, and enlightenment might argue that that's a BIG "BUT" (no pun intended). If eating the fruit from the "Tree of Knowledge" meant the ability to know as the gods, that's a damn big BUT. To illustrate the point, I picture a modern day religious person walking around with a goofy, naive smile on his/her face, preaching their particular "gospel", but being absolutely (yet blissfully, apparently, because of their smile) ignorant. Personally, I would rather be enlightened and live a finite life, than live forever in ignorance. What kind of life would that be? To your point about "Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an 'oppressor'"...Well, the same could be said about Yahweh/God and those who follow that religion. In fact, that's the world in which we've lived in western civilization for the past 2,000 years -- a world where the entity who attempted to squash enlightenment is the "good" figure. Says who? The Church, of course. If "ignorance" means I never saw a starving child, or heard about a murder, or experienced rape or degredation....I'd have rather had ignorance. Sorry...You prideful arrogant sons of bitches...you love to heap the misery on us "uninitiated"...YOU LOVE IT. It makes you feel superior. It's all about pride. Pride of the eyes, lust of the flesh, the pride of life. You can't fathom that you'd be better off in the loving arms of a protective Father who knew...KNEW...you were not capable of handling this knowledge with Grace. Sad, sad. Little boys and their (weapon) toys. God forgive you, for you know not what you do. |
DPS User ID: 24946717 Israel 10/15/2012 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh come on. what a bunch of horse shit. apollo how can you undergo geyur if you believe in this crap? really? masonry is simply inversed judaism. that later spewed christianity and islam. king david uncle is not based after a scotish king or whatever, thats just lies designed to make you think you hold the truth and not the jew,s. you believe the all, the whole, the universe with all that is in it, is the most high god... that is stupidity, the old testiment clrealy tells you that yud heh vav heh is outside of the everything. the first masons were priests of the temple in jerusalem who quitted on judaism, and then went around in the world trying to destroy it by inversing it into masonry... the cap stone (CORNER STONE) the masons rejected is yud heh vav heh. they are building a world without him. funding science inorder to disprove him. but they are failing. new jerusalem is about to decent. repent, acknowledge your positions as gentiles and come to learn real TORAH (theory) from jew,s. |
DPS User ID: 24946717 Israel 10/15/2012 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what is a corner stone actually? well in ancient times when you build something there were usually two construction teams, kind of competing against each other. once the 2 teams have built all the way to the shared corner, there is the place of the corner stone, but which team can claim the corner stone is on thier side? which team wins? king david decided to settle the dispute by dedicating the stone to god and thus making it the HEAD corner stone. another way to look at it is by seeing the beuty of hebrew. the word stone is written alef bet nun, remove the alef and you get the word BEN which means son. davids brother rejected him but he became the king - HEAD corner stone, same with joseph and his brothers. for our topic, the builders - masons, have rejected judaism. when moshiach comes jew,s are going to be the head corner stone |
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Elfsong User ID: 34740226 United States 02/27/2013 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What many do not recognize is that part of the Orders duty is to make sure that "The Royal Child" is safe and that the line continues. The last manuscript that I was able to read, states that the "The Royal Child" was moved to the New Land for safety. The child was moved from the East Coast to the West Coast because they were able to control the population around them. The Child was to be raised around the Pillars of Earth (the Redwoods). Ever wonder why the Bohemian Grove has so much security? working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11330901 United States 02/27/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can only speak for myself, but I think the following is true for most people: I don't not do ill toward others because of a perceived threat of some sort of eternal damnation. I try not to do ill toward others because I wouldn't want them to do so toward me. How can someone do something bad to another and not have it bother his/her conscience; but then someone does that same thing to him/her, and he/she doesn't like it? I think that's the definition of a sociopath. Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 I agree with this. |
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MACau User ID: 17611530 United States 02/27/2013 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What many do not recognize is that part of the Orders duty is to make sure that "The Royal Child" is safe and that the line continues. The last manuscript that I was able to read, states that the "The Royal Child" was moved to the New Land for safety. The child was moved from the East Coast to the West Coast because they were able to control the population around them. Quoting: Elfsong The Child was to be raised around the Pillars of Earth (the Redwoods). Ever wonder why the Bohemian Grove has so much security? This is highly interesting to me. Is this Royal Child male or female? About how old would he/she be? Is it possible that the "Pillars of Earth" may have a different meaning or do you know for certain it is BG? My credentials: Nine divides Eleven, plus sum; Peace. |
R3B2 User ID: 35222484 United States 02/27/2013 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would anyone like to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is? Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 Keep in mind that "secrets" in Freemasonry (other than passwords, hand shakes, gestures, etc.) are not given. Everything is cloaked in allegory, metaphor, and symbolism. Thus, 99.9% of 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons don't know the ROYAL SECRET (despite what they might or might not have been led to believe). The "juicy" bits of Freemasonry are not revealed openly even to the Craft's initiates, but rather through a combination of a symbolically veiled allegory AND reflection and study by the individual Mason. In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason. Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :) Great post. I am Prince Hall Free and Accepted Mason from an old school lodge in New York located on a Military base behind an Air Assault School. Its different for everyone that becomes a Mason but my initiation into the Masonic lodge took almost two years and when I learned the first three degrees I felt very empowered and more knowledgeable on how to live the rest of my life as an upright and honest man. I was honored with a position in the lodge and it was real fun learning all the rituals and guiding other recruits through the same process of also becoming a mason. It is very rewarding when you go to another lodge that you have never been before and to be able to recite from memory as best as possible All the Light in Masonry. The First three degrees is all you need. From there to get to the 32nd Degree is not tough. The First three degrees were real tough to get down. Once you got it you got it. the rest of the degrees I went through were held over two weekends and had to visit another lodge that knew how to put on the 32nd degree. I did not so receive it... nor will I so impart it... the Secrets are all common since morals. Geometry, Sciences, Arts, and such. If you want to become a mason be prepared to spend alot of time helping others. I have spent many a night at the lodge serving dinners to underprivileged children and raising funds for the shriners to help little kids that got burnt up by their scum bag Dad. Oh yeah every year we do a Big roast that raises of $25,000 for the local baseball club so they can travel to different states and compete with other schools. We also host the Eastern Stars Lodge at the same lodge. If your not a mason... Its no biggie. Say as many bad things as you want about Masons it will not make one bit of difference in the Craft. Thousands of years in Masonry is a brotherly bond with a bunch of really cool people. The old timers in the lodge are super cool and very knowledgeable and willing to share light any time you seek it. Be a good person and good things will come to you. The opposite also applies. So mote it be Reb |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15287875 Australia 02/27/2013 03:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA". Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power. If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor. Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit? Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money? Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor". Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise. Explain that kind of oppressor to me... To your point about "Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but eat of that fruit?", a defender of "Lucifer" and/or the idea of "a Light bearer" of logic, reason, and enlightenment might argue that that's a BIG "BUT" (no pun intended). If eating the fruit from the "Tree of Knowledge" meant the ability to know as the gods, that's a damn big BUT. To illustrate the point, I picture a modern day religious person walking around with a goofy, naive smile on his/her face, preaching their particular "gospel", but being absolutely (yet blissfully, apparently, because of their smile) ignorant. Personally, I would rather be enlightened and live a finite life, than live forever in ignorance. What kind of life would that be? To your point about "Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an 'oppressor'"...Well, the same could be said about Yahweh/God and those who follow that religion. In fact, that's the world in which we've lived in western civilization for the past 2,000 years -- a world where the entity who attempted to squash enlightenment is the "good" figure. Says who? The Church, of course. Oh Deary me !! What a waste of a life it must be for you , all that insecurity and innate ignorance you display in this post Hiram. I am a man , and a part of every Humans life is the voyage of discovery ...... i don't need your smelly snake (or motifs / other people) to guide my my enquiries as to the nature of myself (and my surroundings) Wake up Boy's and Girls !! Both sides of the debate/argument are based on things you've been told(&/or led to by others whether they were present or not). The big question is ..... "what" are you ??? ( not , "who" are you ??) (most people , at this point , will do a "personal inventory" and get totally tied down with B.S.) Here's some provocation for you all .......i am just a feeling , and that is enough. Thoughts exist in their own right (a "stream" of consciousness as it were) Our surroundings ( and how we feel about them ) limits or expands our access to these "thoughts". In the same way, a group or congregation engender certain "feelings" which give access to thoughts and ideas that do not occur "normally"(??) ..... this has been termed , i believe , as "raising the lodge" . The secret is , of course , that all these things are available to all humankind , one needs only to elicit the "feeling" that equates with "raising the lodge"(as just one example).Negative / bad feelings lead to negative / bad thoughts .... pretty simple really !! :) In other words , most ( not all) masons & "religiontards" still feel inadequate/incomplete and , therefore , require others to raise them up. Best wishes for your journey !! |
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Elfsong User ID: 34740226 United States 02/28/2013 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MACau User ID: 17611530 The child that you are asking about is female. The reason is because it this way they are able to control the raising and the birth of the next generation. To the 33rd Level, it is very important that they make sure of the Blood Line that they guard. Since they are able to keep a Parental Line more accurate than any Mormon could ever dream of, it is the sworn duty of those in the Inner Circle to make sure that the place of the Sacred Child is pure and untainted. When I was young, I found myself in a position where I was able to read books that were kept in the Bohemian Garden's Library. In the three books that are highly prized, they kept detailed records of the Sacred Child and lengths they went to, so that the child could be raised 'Untainted'. The part of the one book that held my interest was when they wrote about how they had to move the child to the 'New World' during WWII. They were afraid that the reason that Hitler was trying to invade England was to capture the Child and control the Stigmata surrounding the Mysticism of the Child. Because I was not suppose to be there in the first place, I was only able to read parts of the different books when my father was making 'deliveries' to the Bohemian Garden. You would be surprised how often Security does not pay attention to young children, yet go overboard to make sure that the Adults do not stray into areas that they do not belong. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34815404 United Kingdom 02/28/2013 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would anyone like to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is? Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 Keep in mind that "secrets" in Freemasonry (other than passwords, hand shakes, gestures, etc.) are not given. Everything is cloaked in allegory, metaphor, and symbolism. Thus, 99.9% of 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons don't know the ROYAL SECRET (despite what they might or might not have been led to believe). The "juicy" bits of Freemasonry are not revealed openly even to the Craft's initiates, but rather through a combination of a symbolically veiled allegory AND reflection and study by the individual Mason. In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason. Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :) Who cares about the masons.no one i know cares masons secrets and rituals is not small boys that never have grown up and if you dont tell nor will i and then we can blame some cowan,that about sums it up. |
He Is Risen Indeed User ID: 28631986 United States 02/28/2013 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would anyone like to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is? Quoting: High Ram A. Biff 1248699 Keep in mind that "secrets" in Freemasonry (other than passwords, hand shakes, gestures, etc.) are not given. Everything is cloaked in allegory, metaphor, and symbolism. Thus, 99.9% of 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons don't know the ROYAL SECRET (despite what they might or might not have been led to believe). The "juicy" bits of Freemasonry are not revealed openly even to the Craft's initiates, but rather through a combination of a symbolically veiled allegory AND reflection and study by the individual Mason. In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason. Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :) Been hunting ancestry and I have found Hay, Godfrey, Napier, Cowper, Spottiswood, and a mystery I believe involves Anne of Cleves |
MACau User ID: 17611530 United States 02/28/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MACau Quoting: Elfsong User ID: 17611530 The child that you are asking about is female. The reason is because it this way they are able to control the raising and the birth of the next generation. To the 33rd Level, it is very important that they make sure of the Blood Line that they guard. Since they are able to keep a Parental Line more accurate than any Mormon could ever dream of, it is the sworn duty of those in the Inner Circle to make sure that the place of the Sacred Child is pure and untainted. When I was young, I found myself in a position where I was able to read books that were kept in the Bohemian Garden's Library. In the three books that are highly prized, they kept detailed records of the Sacred Child and lengths they went to, so that the child could be raised 'Untainted'. The part of the one book that held my interest was when they wrote about how they had to move the child to the 'New World' during WWII. They were afraid that the reason that Hitler was trying to invade England was to capture the Child and control the Stigmata surrounding the Mysticism of the Child. Because I was not suppose to be there in the first place, I was only able to read parts of the different books when my father was making 'deliveries' to the Bohemian Garden. You would be surprised how often Security does not pay attention to young children, yet go overboard to make sure that the Adults do not stray into areas that they do not belong. Found, I have, the corner market's address on a map. I have many questions of the line that only a glimpse into the ark might reveal. Would you tell the color of the owl? Early morning light shows patterns of grey through triangular lenses. Can one walk without health? Does one dance gleefully to 40 degrees of Terra Firm's post cards drawn in sand and snaky night? |
Elfsong User ID: 34740226 United States 02/28/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear User ID: 35320077 The drug you are using is not called Truth. However, it does seem to give you the delusions that can only be matched by large doses of LSD. Again, please do not share, for I enjoy the reality that I live in. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
Elfsong User ID: 34740226 United States 03/01/2013 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MACau User ID: 17611530 Interesting way of responding. As for the line of the Child, She does still live in Northern Calif. Once I was able to figure out who they were talking about, it was not that hard to track her down. Both she and her daughters live in the Bohemian Gardens for a long time. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
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