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Is the Obama Administration about to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that could ban Firearms?

According to 130 congressman who sent a letter of warning to the President he is about to do exactly that!!
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Is the Obama Administration about to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that could ban Firearms?

According to 130 congressman who sent a letter of warning to the President he is about to do exactly that!!
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Not gonna happen...

And if by chance it does, lock and load let them try and take it..
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What did his black liberation preacher say?

America's chickens or sum such
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Seriously....how does this treaty affect your right to bear arms?
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Is the Obama Administration about to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that could ban Firearms?

According to 130 congressman who sent a letter of warning to the President he is about to do exactly that!!
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All treaties must pass the Senat by a 2/3's vote. Never gonna happen. He'd be better off signing a piece of shit paper.
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Seriously....how does this treaty affect your right to bear arms?
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did you even READ the first paragraph?? dannyOMG

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Seriously....how does this treaty affect your right to bear arms?
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did you even READ the first paragraph?? :dannyOMG:
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Yes i did and it includes absolutely none of the language from the treaty that would allude to a seizure or limiting of americans right to bear arms. It is my understanding that the treaty applies to international sales of arms only. I would like to see the section of the treaty that would affect us. If it truly limits my right to bear arms, then i would fight along side you.
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
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You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
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You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
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Yup!!!
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
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You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
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Ok fucktard. I happen to cherish my right to bear arms and would fight before anyone tries to take that away. How am I a dumbass when all i have asked for is the verbiage in the treaty that affects citizens and not corporations? Have you actually read the treaty? Because if not, its you who's the dumbass.
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Is the Obama Administration about to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that could ban Firearms?

According to 130 congressman who sent a letter of warning to the President he is about to do exactly that!!
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all part of the plan....
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The treaty allows them to say what people can and can't buy or sell and it will restrict a number of the so called "assault rifles".

In my book that is a direct violation of the 2nd Amendment! Not one place in the Constitution does it say the government has a right to restrict certain types of guns and not one place does it give them the right to farm out our law enforcement to a foreign body such as the U.N.
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According to 130 congressman who sent a letter of warning to the President he is about to do exactly that!!
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This is ILLEGAL.

The 2nd Amendment supercedes any UN Bullshit... and all the Congresspersons better remember that or there will be serious repercussions.
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If they try and confiscate firearms, this country will devolve into civil war
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Guns are the line in the sand. I hope our congress critters realize that....
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17742978


You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213


Ok fucktard. I happen to cherish my right to bear arms and would fight before anyone tries to take that away. How am I a dumbass when all i have asked for is the verbiage in the treaty that affects citizens and not corporations? Have you actually read the treaty? Because if not, its you who's the dumbass.
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Actually you are! You yourself said it only effects gun and ammo manufacturers. But anything that effects them effects us. So nice try!

I guess those 130 congressmen including democrats sent that letter for nothing then. I guess we have nothing to worry about because people like you want to believe the mainstream media when they tell them this is all the N.R.A or those crazy right wind gun owners.
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If they try and confiscate firearms, this country will devolve into civil war
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That will not work out for the ones fighting with pens.
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Seriously? The only "people" affected by this treaty ar gun and ammo manufacturers. Correct me if im wrong by showing me the language in the treaty that says otherwise. It is a concerted disinformation campaign, run by gun industry lobbyists, that is telling you this BS. Your right to bear arms will not be infringed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17742978


You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213


Ok fucktard. I happen to cherish my right to bear arms and would fight before anyone tries to take that away. How am I a dumbass when all i have asked for is the verbiage in the treaty that affects citizens and not corporations? Have you actually read the treaty? Because if not, its you who's the dumbass.
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Actually you are! You yourself said it only effects gun and ammo manufacturers. But anything that effects them effects us. So nice try!

I guess those 130 congressmen including democrats sent that letter for nothing then. I guess we have nothing to worry about because people like you want to believe the mainstream media when they tell them this is all the N.R.A or those crazy right wind gun owners.
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Those 130 congressmen are bought by lobbyists. If you really think they give two shits about you, well, then you are deluded. Not a single person has shown a single shred of text from the treaty that shows how YOUR right is infringed. Do you honestly think that this is about you? This is all about profits and nothing else. Its not your right to bear arms that will be taken away, its the profits of the wealthy that will be stripped by this. I am a proud gun owning American and i will continue to buy guns and ammo and exercise my right to do so.

So again......Where in the treaty does it limit your right? Where does it say you cant buy AMERICAN MADE assault rifles? Where? Answer please.


PS...im honestly on your side and dont want to see my rights taken away, so lets dispense with the childish name calling and review cold hard facts.
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Seriously....how does this treaty affect your right to bear arms?
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It might actually do some good for the USA.
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You are the kind of idiot that allows are freedoms to be striped away one piece at a time. Have fun in the FEMA camps because with idiots like you that is exactly where this country is headed.

How we got from the founders to people like this that are so complacent that they allow this shit to happen is a fucking shame. As long as they don't take away their reality T.V. and celebrity news 90% of this country could give a fuck less whether they watch it from behind a FEMA camp fence or not!

And by the way dumbass your first sentence only goes to show how dumb you are when you say our rights won't be infringed. If they ban AR's then our fucking rights are being infringed.

It's people like you who deserve to have your freedom taken because you are to ignorant to realize what freedom actually is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213


Ok fucktard. I happen to cherish my right to bear arms and would fight before anyone tries to take that away. How am I a dumbass when all i have asked for is the verbiage in the treaty that affects citizens and not corporations? Have you actually read the treaty? Because if not, its you who's the dumbass.
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Actually you are! You yourself said it only effects gun and ammo manufacturers. But anything that effects them effects us. So nice try!

I guess those 130 congressmen including democrats sent that letter for nothing then. I guess we have nothing to worry about because people like you want to believe the mainstream media when they tell them this is all the N.R.A or those crazy right wind gun owners.
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Those 130 congressmen are bought by lobbyists. If you really think they give two shits about you, well, then you are deluded. Not a single person has shown a single shred of text from the treaty that shows how YOUR right is infringed. Do you honestly think that this is about you? This is all about profits and nothing else. Its not your right to bear arms that will be taken away, its the profits of the wealthy that will be stripped by this. I am a proud gun owning American and i will continue to buy guns and ammo and exercise my right to do so.

So again......Where in the treaty does it limit your right? Where does it say you cant buy AMERICAN MADE assault rifles? Where? Answer please.


PS...im honestly on your side and dont want to see my rights taken away, so lets dispense with the childish name calling and review cold hard facts.
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You're right I see the Error of my ways.... Obama would never do this to us.... Obama is only looking out for our best interests and would never break the law....

Ok back to reality..
... nobody has seen this treaty yet because it is in the middle of a U.N. committee right now. All we have to go on is what those congressmen have seen which is a hell of a lot more than the public is allowed to look at.

You want to Trust Obama and Hillary then go right ahead but the very fact that they are in on the negotiations is a violation of the law to begin with. Only the Senate can pass a treaty and Obama is no longer in the Senate.


But hey you might be right.... These people would never try to take away our freedoms
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Ok fucktard. I happen to cherish my right to bear arms and would fight before anyone tries to take that away. How am I a dumbass when all i have asked for is the verbiage in the treaty that affects citizens and not corporations? Have you actually read the treaty? Because if not, its you who's the dumbass.
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Actually you are! You yourself said it only effects gun and ammo manufacturers. But anything that effects them effects us. So nice try!

I guess those 130 congressmen including democrats sent that letter for nothing then. I guess we have nothing to worry about because people like you want to believe the mainstream media when they tell them this is all the N.R.A or those crazy right wind gun owners.
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Those 130 congressmen are bought by lobbyists. If you really think they give two shits about you, well, then you are deluded. Not a single person has shown a single shred of text from the treaty that shows how YOUR right is infringed. Do you honestly think that this is about you? This is all about profits and nothing else. Its not your right to bear arms that will be taken away, its the profits of the wealthy that will be stripped by this. I am a proud gun owning American and i will continue to buy guns and ammo and exercise my right to do so.

So again......Where in the treaty does it limit your right? Where does it say you cant buy AMERICAN MADE assault rifles? Where? Answer please.


PS...im honestly on your side and dont want to see my rights taken away, so lets dispense with the childish name calling and review cold hard facts.
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You're right I see the Error of my ways.... Obama would never do this to us.... Obama is only looking out for our best interests and would never break the law....

Ok back to reality..
... nobody has seen this treaty yet because it is in the middle of a U.N. committee right now. All we have to go on is what those congressmen have seen which is a hell of a lot more than the public is allowed to look at.

You want to Trust Obama and Hillary then go right ahead but the very fact that they are in on the negotiations is a violation of the law to begin with. Only the Senate can pass a treaty and Obama is no longer in the Senate.


But hey you might be right.... These people would never try to take away our freedoms
bushtardhillaryogrrrclinton nobushhitlerputinblairosuper
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Does it really matter what happens there anyway? Doesnt congress have to approve this by a 2/3rds majority before it can actually be applied?
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Your comment that those "Those 130 congressmen are bought by lobbyists." also seems a little odd.

The very fact that we need gun lobbyists to defend our Constitutional Right to bear arms should show you how fucked up this country really is.

We have the right to bear arms and nobody should have to lobby the dickheads in congress or in the federal government to protect a right that is ours!
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Actually you are! You yourself said it only effects gun and ammo manufacturers. But anything that effects them effects us. So nice try!

I guess those 130 congressmen including democrats sent that letter for nothing then. I guess we have nothing to worry about because people like you want to believe the mainstream media when they tell them this is all the N.R.A or those crazy right wind gun owners.
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Those 130 congressmen are bought by lobbyists. If you really think they give two shits about you, well, then you are deluded. Not a single person has shown a single shred of text from the treaty that shows how YOUR right is infringed. Do you honestly think that this is about you? This is all about profits and nothing else. Its not your right to bear arms that will be taken away, its the profits of the wealthy that will be stripped by this. I am a proud gun owning American and i will continue to buy guns and ammo and exercise my right to do so.

So again......Where in the treaty does it limit your right? Where does it say you cant buy AMERICAN MADE assault rifles? Where? Answer please.


PS...im honestly on your side and dont want to see my rights taken away, so lets dispense with the childish name calling and review cold hard facts.
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You're right I see the Error of my ways.... Obama would never do this to us.... Obama is only looking out for our best interests and would never break the law....

Ok back to reality..
... nobody has seen this treaty yet because it is in the middle of a U.N. committee right now. All we have to go on is what those congressmen have seen which is a hell of a lot more than the public is allowed to look at.

You want to Trust Obama and Hillary then go right ahead but the very fact that they are in on the negotiations is a violation of the law to begin with. Only the Senate can pass a treaty and Obama is no longer in the Senate.


But hey you might be right.... These people would never try to take away our freedoms
bushtardhillaryogrrrclinton nobushhitlerputinblairosuper
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Does it really matter what happens there anyway? Doesnt congress have to approve this by a 2/3rds majority before it can actually be applied?
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Legally yes!

But since when did this administration or the last one do anything legally? This guy and the last one passes executive order after executive order without the approval of congress. Both of them declared war without the approval of congress. Do you really think this will be any different?

Congress is filled with pussies that do nothing except send letters.
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Seriously....how does this treaty affect your right to bear arms?
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It might actually do some good for the USA.
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WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? STAY IN CANADA BUDDY you have already given up your rights to bear arms like fucken idiots in 1996. I know, I'm Canadian and moved here LEGALLY. I have guns and no one will take them away FUCK THEM. I have a copy of my Constitution, the one I swore to uphold the oath to when naturalized. The UN = Cocksuckers
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Re: Obama Administration to sign U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that will BAN GUNS IN THE U.S......... WARNING could ban Firearms?
Before Justice Roberts shredded the Constitution last thursday and determined the SCOTUS can do whatever they want to any pirce of legislation and call it constitutional, I might have agreed this would not effect domestically manufactured and sold firearms as long as they were not put out of business by further regulation. But not now. Now it appears they mean to do anything they like and dare citizens to try fighting them up through the courts, by which time they can round up and destroy all existing firearms, and compensate for them later if gunowners won in court. So your alternative is to hide your firearms if it means going to jail for contempt, to prevent their capture and destruction, if you try and use them you will be used as a scapegoat to justify violence against all gun owners, and teh govt holds all kinds of technology that makes any thought of armed insurrection as short lived and one sided as Shay's Rebellion. Beware of govt paid provacateurs, seems all the terrorist plots these days involve paid agents to inspire and equip the persons who are busted at some politically opportune moment. This whole controversey could just be an attempt to provoke law abiding citizens into signing their own death warrants. They may try it eventually but I don't expect it before the election, but if Obama loses I expect he will try ramming four years worth of tyranny and destruction into those three short months.hitler