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Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?

 
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
May have been answered already, didn't check.

Y is infinity.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
subtract y from each side of the equation and you get
"2 does not equal 0" so it is invalid
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May have been answered already, didn't check.

Y is infinity.
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I'm not satifisfied with that answer. It is subjective; and an example of dictatory mathamatics.

Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 07/06/2012 12:42 AM
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
subtract y from each side of the equation and you get
"2 does not equal 0" so it is invalid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19203755


Yes it is simply an invalid equation, pulled from someones ass.

like saying 4=7. Its bullshit.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
subtract y from each side of the equation and you get
"2 does not equal 0" so it is invalid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19203755


Yes it is simply an invalid equation, pulled from someones ass.

like saying 4=7. Its bullshit.
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


^
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
Absolute Value

2 can = -2
 Quoting: Tantalus


no, 2 does not equal negative 2

abs(-2) = 2, that's correct

abs(2) != -2
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
I may have fell for a very old troll, but this one is halfway driving me nuts.

Google is no help. Just sarcastic nerd replies.
 Quoting: Borian


Y + 2 = Y
Y - Y = - 2
0 = - 2

Impossible.

Your problem's formula is WRONG.

X + 2 = X
X - X = - 2
0 = - 2

Impossible, too, with X

I tried it with A through Z and it is still impossible. ;-)
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retarted moran
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I may have fell for a very old troll, but this one is halfway driving me nuts.

Google is no help. Just sarcastic nerd replies.
 Quoting: Borian


Y + 2 = Y
Y - Y = - 2
0 = - 2

Impossible.

Your problem's formula is WRONG.

X + 2 = X
X - X = - 2
0 = - 2

Impossible, too, with X

I tried it with A through Z and it is still impossible. ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2145552


Ha. I got good results from Ab and tG.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
So this I know something about, and most the previous responses are on the right track. The problem with 2+y=y is the = sign. Its simply not an equality.

Proof: Dividing y

(2+y)/y = y/y

2/y +1 =1

2/y = 0
....

Dividing by (y+2)

(2+y)/(2+y) = y/(2+y)

1= y/2 +1

0 = y/2

therefore... 2/y = y/2

multiply by y.... 2/y= y/2

if y = infinity, then 0 = infinity.

0 does not equal infinity...

That why it became to introduct limits.

The limit of 2/(y+2) as y ---> infinity does = zero.

Sorry I dont feel like figuring out how to enter the sigma sign indicating limit with the correct nomenclature. However, it is a good question as it forms a basis for calculus which utilizes infinity and 0 in order to analyze the change of variables impacting the output of the formula function. Go wiki calculus and you'll see, its all about the core of the OPs inquiry.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
Is that possible?
 Quoting: Haelo


For Y = 1 to 10
Let Y = Y + 2
Next Y
End
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retarted moran
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Too easy. Pass.
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retarted moran
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Yes I feel stupid for even thinking about this.

thanks for the headache OP.

please dont play in traffic. please... no REALLY!
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I may have fell for a very old troll, but this one is halfway driving me nuts.

Google is no help. Just sarcastic nerd replies.
 Quoting: Borian


1.
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I may have fell for a very old troll, but this one is halfway driving me nuts.

Google is no help. Just sarcastic nerd replies.
 Quoting: Borian


1.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19212356


absolutely.
Dr.DoomLittle

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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
So this I know something about, and most the previous responses are on the right track. The problem with 2+y=y is the = sign. Its simply not an equality.

Proof: Dividing y

(2+y)/y = y/y

2/y +1 =1

2/y = 0
....

Dividing by (y+2)

(2+y)/(2+y) = y/(2+y)

1= y/2 +1

0 = y/2

therefore... 2/y = y/2

multiply by y.... 2/y= y/2

if y = infinity, then 0 = infinity.

0 does not equal infinity...

That why it became to introduct limits.

The limit of 2/(y+2) as y ---> infinity does = zero.

Sorry I dont feel like figuring out how to enter the sigma sign indicating limit with the correct nomenclature. However, it is a good question as it forms a basis for calculus which utilizes infinity and 0 in order to analyze the change of variables impacting the output of the formula function. Go wiki calculus and you'll see, its all about the core of the OPs inquiry.
 Quoting: whydidubanme 18671699


i like that..but

It does show however that our sience will always be proved WRONG over time, as well as our logic.

So the original formula, appearing at the surface to be invalid, or a lie: stating y = y+2, is actually a misprint of another equation that is an inequality? sounds a bit stretchy.

Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 07/06/2012 12:55 AM
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
subtract y from each side of the equation and you get
"2 does not equal 0" so it is invalid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19203755


iamwith

Now lets see this get to 80+ pages....
Dr.DoomLittle

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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
Y = Infinity


So

Infinity + 2 = Infinity
 Quoting: DonHeau


Objection. Speculative, Subjective, not a foundation in fact but opinion.

I am concluding the statement of Y=Y+2 is a lie.
Or am i missing some secret knowledge where constants are defined in motion, or in metamorphosis, not as fixed matter; this seems highly subjective.

It suggests an entry into another dimension or an alternating constant; a constant that is defined by its change

a tangent?

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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
This looks strikingly familiar to AB + 5 = AB
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Infinity has a different physical symbol than y.

As nowhere it is stated that for this exercise y = (the symbol for infinity) y cannot be infinity.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
Infinity has a different physical symbol than y.

As nowhere it is stated that for this exercise y = (the symbol for infinity) y cannot be infinity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9501973


True, Y might not be infinity, but by definition, infinity could be Y.
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
Mispring? I dont see what you mean by that...

Science is not being proved wrong. No matter what happens with quantum physics, 1 will always equal 1. You can multiply 1 x Y and it will always equal 1 x Z but only if y = Z. It can and does get incredibly complex but at the end of the day, solving such an equation or executing a mathematical function can always be reduced to 1 = 1. 0 = 0 etc. when reduced to its simplist form.

Look up calculus, its not nearly as daunting to understand as you might think. Solving story problems using calculus on the other hand is much more difficult, its much easier to solve an equation than do determine what equation needs to be solved.


Responding to:

i like that..but

It does show however that our sience will always be proved WRONG over time, as well as our logic.

So the original formula, appearing at the surface to be invalid, or a lie: stating y = y+2, is actually a misprint of another equation that is an inequality? sounds a bit stretchy.
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Y either equals anti-mathmatics

or

Y = A+B+S (absolute+bull+shit)

It could equal pi in an alternate dimension, but all I brought was cake:
wolfcake
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Cardinal numbers versus ordinal numbers.
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2Y
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
The answer is 42.
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y ask y try bud dry !!!
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a = input("Enter the lower bound: ")
b = input("Enter the upper bound: ")

for Y in range(a, b):
Y = Y + 2
print Y,

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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
y + 2 = y

y = "itself plus 2"
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Re: Y + 2 = Y ... Anyone have the answer?
I don't think it can have an answer as it implies something equals something that it does not equal.

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