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Greece on the verge of a civil war

 
Foveras
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07/06/2012 02:42 AM

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Greece on the verge of a civil war
As poverty is increasing rapidly, the number of people suicide increases, as the health system is collapsing, more or more rumors increases of a civil war within the next few months. Add the fact of the rise of the Golden Dawn, the increase incidents of juvenile which increases the feeling of insecurity and fear to the people and the possibility of a suspension of payments by the state and you see the game is setting up smoothly.

Here are some links for the increasing tension between left winged and golden dawn

[link to translate.google.gr]

Second link in Greek

[link to www.defencenet.gr]
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07/06/2012 03:41 AM

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Thank you
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07/06/2012 03:45 AM
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Man... I hope not. hfhfhf
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07/06/2012 03:49 AM
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Well it all started in Greece (the basis of our modern day structure) I guess its only right that it all starts to crumble with Greece.
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07/06/2012 03:52 AM

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Man... I hope not. hfhfhf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19037263

This is a scenario that I talked about many months before. At the time here in Greece it was a conspiracy theory. Now it is coming closer and closer. I am think of alternatives for my family just in case.
Here is a link about the pension funds here in Greece. It is estimated that without the government help they will soon collapse.

[link to translate.google.gr]
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07/06/2012 03:55 AM
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
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07/06/2012 03:57 AM
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We will all be greeks
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07/06/2012 03:59 AM

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Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406


Ok then if thinks are so great here, come and move here. You will have great beaches, sun and the rest. No thinks are not good and is a situation is not reversible. The mankind should try so that all the developing country's to become like the developed. Not the opposite. Cause then it will be a day that it will be your turn
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07/06/2012 04:03 AM

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[link to translate.google.gr]
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07/06/2012 04:07 AM
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Well it all started in Greece (the basis of our modern day structure) I guess its only right that it all starts to crumble with Greece.
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Yep.

I am still not certain that WW3 will start in the Middle East.

I am starting to think that it might be a worldwide revolution. A civil war in most countries in the world, as the people of the world try to take on the New World Order.

I know that we are on the brink or civil war here in the US. Our population is divided straight down the middle, and the rightwings and the leftwings hate each other more and more every day, not to mention that most of us dislike Obama. The president knows its coming, that is why he did the NDAA and is putting drones inh the air.
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07/06/2012 04:08 AM
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I read the retirement age is fifty eight which is not really supportable is it, how long has that been like that? No wonder they broke.
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07/06/2012 04:15 AM
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406


Ok then if thinks are so great here, come and move here. You will have great beaches, sun and the rest. No thinks are not good and is a situation is not reversible. The mankind should try so that all the developing country's to become like the developed. Not the opposite. Cause then it will be a day that it will be your turn
 Quoting: Foveras


Maybe when the world can afford to, they will really try to help developing countries. Imagine that a boat has sunk and everyone is trying to prevent drowning to death. When every country is struggling to survive, they can't have someone piggybacking on a drowning victim. They will both drown. It is better that one of them gets to the shore first and then throw in a life line.

Also, I somewhat agree with what Lagarde said,

<Making clear that the IMF has no plans to relent on its austerity requirements for the country, Lagarde said she was aware that many Greeks were struggling to access services like healthcare because of the country’s economic crisis, but believed people in other countries deserved more sympathy.

“I think more of the little kids from a school in a little village in Niger who get teaching two hours a day, sharing one chair for three of them, and who are very keen to get an education,”>

Let's make it clear that Greece is not the only country struggling in the world. Also, the terms set by EU is pretty good compared to the Austerity measures forced by IMF during the 1990's financial crisis. So, maybe it's time to stop complaining and to start striving to recover.
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07/06/2012 04:19 AM
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THIS
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SPARTA!!!!!!!!!

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07/06/2012 04:22 AM
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Also, it's funny how OP wants developed nations to prevent Greece, a developed nation, from falling to a developing status but the articles OP linked show that Greece is a selfish nationalistic country who does not want to help other countries.

<The announcement of the Golden Dawn says "came the big moment to show what we deserve and how we are united," and urges its members to contact their area of Nice because, as noted, "for obvious security reasons, the guidelines will not be given public ".

The announcement is insulting reference to "illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Albania, Africa and other debris," which-as mentioned-"piled in our country in collaboration with the local absolute ethnoprodotes SYRIZA ANTARSYA, anarchist groups and other 'progressive' " >
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07/06/2012 04:22 AM
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Resilience. peace
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07/06/2012 04:23 AM
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We will all be greeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19100999


how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat.
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07/06/2012 04:30 AM

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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Also, it's funny how OP wants developed nations to prevent Greece, a developed nation, from falling to a developing status but the articles OP linked show that Greece is a selfish nationalistic country who does not want to help other countries.

<The announcement of the Golden Dawn says "came the big moment to show what we deserve and how we are united," and urges its members to contact their area of Nice because, as noted, "for obvious security reasons, the guidelines will not be given public ".

The announcement is insulting reference to "illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Albania, Africa and other debris," which-as mentioned-"piled in our country in collaboration with the local absolute ethnoprodotes SYRIZA ANTARSYA, anarchist groups and other 'progressive' " >
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When poverty comes people become desperate. You have to understand that this situation is contagious and will spread to all the south Europe. It is a matter of wrong policies that lead to this problem. Greece is the scape goat cause due to serious state problems it was easy to be hit. I'm not saying that people here did thinks correct. But the same systemic problems exist in most developed country's. They are just hidden better, but eventually will come out.
Anyway I think if we see a Greek civil war it will spread to other country's and that wont be good with the combination of Syria and Arabic spring.
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07/06/2012 04:31 AM

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We will all be greeks
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how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18791984


This^^^
Love responsibility,
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If it gets lost, myself only is responsible

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07/06/2012 04:32 AM
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Doubt it. They are too smart to fight each other. They know who the enemy is and it's not among themselves.
Does karma even exist?
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07/06/2012 04:33 AM
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
it´s called RE- VO- LU - TION dummies!
Once the hunt for those belonging to the ruling class will be unleashed in the streets and on the shores of athens,and the "golden dawn" comes that will take EVERYTHING away from capitalist exploiters the alienated propagandists of austerity will realize they just pushed the cradle of democracy into the hands of communists and nationalists.
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07/06/2012 04:33 AM
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406


Your time of fun is coming:

.."French bank Italian Exposure: As Italy pops with outrageous funding yields (just like Greece), France will be forced to bailout its banks once again, leaving the socialist country facing the dilemma of potentially having to ask for a bailout itself. As you may know from my previous writings, the French banking system is bigger than France itself so a true bailout cannot practically come from within..."

[link to boombustblog.com]
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07/06/2012 04:39 AM
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406


And you think this will change anything in capitalism? It's like trying to use a brothel as a church during the weekends.
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07/06/2012 04:41 AM
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We will all be greeks
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^^THIS^^
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You will receive assistance - Bulgarian government headed by our Prime Minister. I hope this will help.
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406


Your time of fun is coming:

.."French bank Italian Exposure: As Italy pops with outrageous funding yields (just like Greece), France will be forced to bailout its banks once again, leaving the socialist country facing the dilemma of potentially having to ask for a bailout itself. As you may know from my previous writings, the French banking system is bigger than France itself so a true bailout cannot practically come from within..."

[link to boombustblog.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


France is no socialist country. Its a socialised capitalist country.
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07/06/2012 05:08 AM
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We will all be greeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19100999


how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18791984


This^^^
 Quoting: Foveras


I feel sorry for you and yours, my Greek friend. Life sucks on many levels, now and always.

But I wonder that on political level, your country even in these dark days don't give up on Macedonia, and won't let this tinny country to use it's only name - Republic of Macedonia?!
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07/06/2012 05:11 AM
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cant wait for the complete anarchy ...

cant wait till this place is burnt to the floor , wgat did the bastards ever do for me , where is my big house and porsche ... fuck em , burn in hell
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07/06/2012 05:19 AM
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I am starting to think that it might be a worldwide revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18723832

Neither a revolution, nor a civil war. It will be, if something else doesn't happen before that, a massacre. People are just not ready to fight the psychopaths.

Normal people lack emotionless, cold calculation, lack of empathy, and computer-like precision and efficiency of psychopathic mind. In order to fight a psychopath, one has to understand a psychopath, to think like a psychopath, to detach oneself from everything but the goal to be achieved - extermination of the other side. Psychopaths are engineered to exterminate humanity, and that means that the only solution to the problem is extermination of the psychopaths.

But people identify themselves only with the visible. The flag, the country, the color of the uniform. Can you imagine what would happen if, within a single military unit, a psychopathic officer was recognized by a common soldier and, instead of shooting at the 'enemy combatants', that soldier pointed his gun at the psychopath that was giving him the orders and blew the head of that engineered son-of-a-bitch?

Chaos? The word doesn't even come close to describing what would happen if people suddenly turned the table on their masters and started systematically killing one psychopath after another.

Massacre of the people by the psychopaths is a much more likely outcome.

"Call each thing by its right name."
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07/06/2012 05:25 AM
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spain will do better....bull fighters vs bull chit
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07/06/2012 05:29 AM

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We will all be greeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19100999


how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18791984


This^^^
 Quoting: Foveras


I feel sorry for you and yours, my Greek friend. Life sucks on many levels, now and always.

But I wonder that on political level, your country even in these dark days don't give up on Macedonia, and won't let this tinny country to use it's only name - Republic of Macedonia?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19218446

No politician would dare to do that. It is easier to bankrupt the country than to do this. It is a matter of pride especially at the places of the Greek Macedonia.
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Re: Greece on the verge of a civil war
I am starting to think that it might be a worldwide revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18723832

Neither a revolution, nor a civil war. It will be, if something else doesn't happen before that, a massacre. People are just not ready to fight the psychopaths.

Normal people lack emotionless, cold calculation, lack of empathy, and computer-like precision and efficiency of psychopathic mind. In order to fight a psychopath, one has to understand a psychopath, to think like a psychopath, to detach oneself from everything but the goal to be achieved - extermination of the other side. Psychopaths are engineered to exterminate humanity, and that means that the only solution to the problem is extermination of the psychopaths.

But people identify themselves only with the visible. The flag, the country, the color of the uniform. Can you imagine what would happen if, within a single military unit, a psychopathic officer was recognized by a common soldier and, instead of shooting at the 'enemy combatants', that soldier pointed his gun at the psychopath that was giving him the orders and blew the head of that engineered son-of-a-bitch?

Chaos? The word doesn't even come close to describing what would happen if people suddenly turned the table on their masters and started systematically killing one psychopath after another.

Massacre of the people by the psychopaths is a much more likely outcome.

"Call each thing by its right name."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19114383


These people aren't psychopaths. They're ordinary people like you or I. They are our neighbours, friends and family. To confront their privilege, we will need to understand the nature of the system. Calling them psychopaths does nothing other than make bogeymen of them.
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