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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Health care isn't about happiness, it's about life. Your life comes down to your health. It's that simple. . So does Food, Shelter, a Job, clothes for that Job, transportation to/from that Job, etc If you want society to pick up the cost of all that and more, then I hate to break it to you if you don't already know but ... ... you're a fucking Socialist. :classenvy: . Yes, society SHOULD pick up the tab for those things, if one cannot pick up the tab for them themselves. If I am a socialist, so be it, I am still correct. You're still a fucking thief. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 07/07/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. Last Edited by Manu-K on 07/07/2012 12:26 AM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Health care isn't about happiness, it's about life. Your life comes down to your health. It's that simple. You're not entitled to anyone else's money for anything, if commies want to fund these programs do it with your own money and let people who want to opt out be able to do so. Otherwise you're an oppressive piece of shit who doesn't believe in freedom and you're as bad as any tyrant or slave owner. Freedom comes must prevail above everything else, otherwise you inexorably will end up oppressed beyond the point of return sooner than later. Learn from history and save your wishful thinking utopian BS for your idealistic daydreaming personal moments. Actually,yes if you have a right and you need someone else's money to be able to maintain that right, then he's you are entitled to someone else's Money. That is one of the inherent properties of a right. Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Health care isn't about happiness, it's about life. Your life comes down to your health. It's that simple. . So does Food, Shelter, a Job, clothes for that Job, transportation to/from that Job, etc If you want society to pick up the cost of all that and more, then I hate to break it to you if you don't already know but ... ... you're a fucking Socialist. :classenvy: . Yes, society SHOULD pick up the tab for those things, if one cannot pick up the tab for them themselves. If I am a socialist, so be it, I am still correct. You're still a fucking thief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Health care isn't about happiness, it's about life. Your life comes down to your health. It's that simple. . So does Food, Shelter, a Job, clothes for that Job, transportation to/from that Job, etc If you want society to pick up the cost of all that and more, then I hate to break it to you if you don't already know but ... ... you're a fucking Socialist. :classenvy: . Yes, society SHOULD pick up the tab for those things, if one cannot pick up the tab for them themselves. If I am a socialist, so be it, I am still correct. You're still a fucking thief. If thievery is neccesssary to maintain ones rights, so be it. Righs are the one thing that cannot be taken away from a person. They supersede all else. I am a thief, so be it. It is morally neeccesary, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren You're not entitled to anyone else's money for anything, if commies want to fund these programs do it with your own money and let people who want to opt out be able to do so. Otherwise you're an oppressive piece of shit who doesn't believe in freedom and you're as bad as any tyrant or slave owner. Freedom comes must prevail above everything else, otherwise you inexorably will end up oppressed beyond the point of return sooner than later. Learn from history and save your wishful thinking utopian BS for your idealistic daydreaming personal moments. Actually,yes if you have a right and you need someone else's money to be able to maintain that right, then he's you are entitled to someone else's Money. That is one of the inherent properties of a right. Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . Is needed* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev . So does Food, Shelter, a Job, clothes for that Job, transportation to/from that Job, etc If you want society to pick up the cost of all that and more, then I hate to break it to you if you don't already know but ... ... you're a fucking Socialist. :classenvy: . Yes, society SHOULD pick up the tab for those things, if one cannot pick up the tab for them themselves. If I am a socialist, so be it, I am still correct. You're still a fucking thief. If thievery is neccesssary to maintain ones rights, so be it. Righs are the one thing that cannot be taken away from a person. They supersede all else. I am a thief, so be it. It is morally neeccesary, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States 07/07/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is walking all disheveled saying, " all I need is this," then the next thing he sees, " and this. but that's it." And he goes on a few steps and sees something else he wants, " and this, but nothing else." This repeats as he walks and is weighted down, shuffling along, mumbling. Or the two year old that has never grown up with the one word vocabulary, " Mine." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Actually,yes if you have a right and you need someone else's money to be able to maintain that right, then he's you are entitled to someone else's Money. That is one of the inherent properties of a right. Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. Your statement is literally incorrect. Rights absolutely DO require something from someone else, that is absolutely part of what a right is. YOU are ignorant of what a right is, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19263996 United States 07/07/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . Losers want government to provide for them at the expense of others. You are a loser and a useless eater. Please move to France. You'll find sympathy there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States 07/07/2012 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . I am thinking that all of your health care issues stem from your poor diet. You are suffering from a lead deficiency. I am sure there are those that will be glad to help you with your condition. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19263996 United States 07/07/2012 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Quoting: William_the_Bloody The very first thing, Life. It is our fundamental right as an American to recieve life. That implies Medical care is provided in some way in order to assure as much life as possible. Not the expense of MY LIBERTY. Your right to be you includes my right to be free FROM YOU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19263996 United States 07/07/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . I am thinking that all of your health care issues stem from your poor diet. You are suffering from a lead deficiency. I am sure there are those that will be glad to help you with your condition. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This! LOL |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 07/07/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Actually,yes if you have a right and you need someone else's money to be able to maintain that right, then he's you are entitled to someone else's Money. That is one of the inherent properties of a right. Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 Yes, society SHOULD pick up the tab for those things, if one cannot pick up the tab for them themselves. If I am a socialist, so be it, I am still correct. You're still a fucking thief. If thievery is neccesssary to maintain ones rights, so be it. Righs are the one thing that cannot be taken away from a person. They supersede all else. I am a thief, so be it. It is morally neeccesary, No, absolutely not. It is okay to steal if it is to maintains a right, not simply to steal. The stealing is okay if it is the means, not the end, and it is only okay as the means if it is the means of maintaining a right. |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 07/07/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18950384 Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. Your statement is literally incorrect. Rights absolutely DO require something from someone else, that is absolutely part of what a right is. YOU are ignorant of what a right is, No, once again, YOU are wrong. How many people have to explain it to you how many times? A "right" cannot ever be yours if it takes something from another by force. Your rights stop where the rights of others begin. You are entitled to ALL you can provide for YOURSELF and nothing more. You do not have and will never have the right to take anything from the rights of another. It's really pretty basic and Civics 101. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18950384 Stop making shit up and calling it a right, there is no such right to someone else money. If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. :THISS: This is a opinion, not a fact. The actual definition of a right does not say this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . I am thinking that all of your health care issues stem from your poor diet. You are suffering from a lead deficiency. I am sure there are those that will be glad to help you with your condition. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 07/07/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People may have agreed at some point to give a small amount of their labor's fruits for things that otherwise it would have been too complicated to accomplish, but that doesn't mean the commie government has carte blanche to go on a spending spree with other people's money to pay for Tyrone's beer or Juanita the illegal alien's triplet birth at the hospital. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren People need to be able to opt out of supporting certain social programs they deem contrary to all logic and reason and offend their integrity. It is not a "government spending spree" when the governments simply trying to maintain peoples' rights. If government spending inene ended to maintain a right, then it is neccesssary . You're completly off as some other poster indicated, but anyhow, your insane idea of "rights" is economically unsustainable anyway, if it has been going on for so long it's merely because governments are indebting themselves like crazy to central banks, one day the bill will come and your utopia will show itself to be what it is in reality, a chimera and a fallacy. Last Edited by Manu-K on 07/07/2012 12:40 AM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18950384 United States 07/07/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. :THISS: This is a opinion, not a fact. The actual definition of a right does not say this. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 07/07/2012 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If thievery is neccesssary to maintain ones rights, so be it. Righs are the one thing that cannot be taken away from a person. They supersede all else. I am a thief, so be it. It is morally neeccesary, No, absolutely not. It is okay to steal if it is to maintains a right, not simply to steal. The stealing is okay if it is the means, not the end, and it is only okay as the means if it is the means of maintaining a right. Marxist BS from a dumb ass brainwashed commie. You're a disgrace to humanity. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/07/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 If someone else's money is required in order to ensure one is able to maintain their rights, then yes, one does have a right to others' money. A right supersedes essentially almost everything else, that is p, as I said, one of he inherent properties of a right. Your statement is literally incorrect. Rights absolutely DO require something from someone else, that is absolutely part of what a right is. YOU are ignorant of what a right is, No, once again, YOU are wrong. How many people have to explain it to you how many times? A "right" cannot ever be yours if it takes something from another by force. Your rights stop where the rights of others begin. You are entitled to ALL you can provide for YOURSELF and nothing more. You do not have and will never have the right to take anything from the rights of another. It's really pretty basic and Civics 101. OOH alright. Thank you for being the first person to actually give me a quote. "your rights stop where another's begin." alright, now I say where you are all coming from. Well, alright. But. Let me ask you this. If ones rights stop where another's begin, who is to say that. You imply that one's rights to health care stop where one's right to property (your tax monet) start,but who is to say it is not the other way around? who is to say that your rights to property do not end where another's right to health care start? "your rights stop where another's begin" works both ways. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17687147 United States 07/07/2012 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you want me to elaborate ? worked all my life.this last job doesnt give employees insurance,paid minimum wage. I couldnt afford insurance on my own. Found a lump on my neck, go to free clinic they dont have the equipment to do biopsy,sent home. Applied for state aid, denied I make too much. So tried to buy it,cant get it, preexsisting condition. Now lump is massive and painful go to emergency room, no insurance wants money now dont have it referred to another hospital for indigent day before appt doc calls and says money upfront. I literally had to become homeless with my child to get services.now living in hotel, got medical,cancer is now stage iv. but now while dying I must look for work cuz Im on calworks and getting medi-cal. Elaborate enough? I hate it when some people make claims they no nothing about. you need proof? pay for the fax and I'll send you every denial and xray i have,along with prognosis. Brother people are denied treatment all the time and yes they are allowed to die. |