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Here they come Australia..more asylum seekers

 
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CISARUA, Indonesia -- Rahmatullah Afzaly says the thought of boarding a rickety Indonesian fishing boat in roiling seas, crammed with hundreds of other asylum seekers, is terrifying. But it's nothing compared to his fear of the Taliban.

His lips quiver and he struggles to keep the tears inside as he allows his memory to drift back home to Afghanistan, where scores of ethnic Hazaras like himself have been captured, tortured and killed by Islamic militants.

He and thousands of other asylum seekers from various war-ravaged and impoverished countries have made it to Indonesia, but Australia is where they seek a better life. And they are risking death to find it.

Unwilling to languish for years here in detention centers while their cases are heard, many board smugglers' boats to attempt the 500-kilometer (300-mile) trip to Australia's Christmas Island.

Concern over the journey has escalated in the past three weeks. Two boats capsized and another was rescued in rough seas while en route to Christmas Island, which is closer to Indonesia than mainland Australia. More than 90 people are believed to have died, and hundreds more have drowned in similar accidents that have become commonplace over the past few years.

"We know that we can die on our way ... but there is no life in our country," Afzaly says, weeping softly. Four other men from his homeland, all minority Shia Muslims, cover their faces to hide their own emotions inside the small rented house they share in West Java province.

"If we can reach the safe country, then we will have a better future," he says. "That's why we choose to take whatever risk."

The incidents have sparked a fresh wave of fierce debate in Australia, where the two main political parties agree that the asylum seekers should be sent elsewhere but remain deadlocked over where to take them. Meanwhile, the dilapidated boats keep coming, loaded with migrants who believe their cases will be processed faster if they make it to Australian shores.

The number arriving by boat has more than doubled since 2000. So far this year, more than 70 vessels carrying about 5,200 migrants have reached Australia, according to immigration officials.



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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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No, i didn't.

can you please post a link to reference and varify this claim?
smile and the world smiles with you
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Huffpoo is wet.
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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sucks, dont it?
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I like turtles.
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I thought you are smart enough to discern between propaganda and fact.
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let them stay in indonesia, they get that far and its safe over there. NO they dont want to stay in indonesia as they are economic refugees and anything else is pure bullshite, they put their kids at risk for what. Understand once they reach indonesia they are safe. There are no problems in that country.
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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Exactly, same in Canada, plus they don't have to pay any income tax for the first five years. Fucking bullshit. Their countries suck for one reason, ISLAM. Just shoot them, except the children and remove them from their stupid religion so they can grow up normal.
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let them stay in indonesia, they get that far and its safe over there. NO they dont want to stay in indonesia as they are economic refugees and anything else is pure bullshite, they put their kids at risk for what. Understand once they reach indonesia they are safe. There are no problems in that country.
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Yeah if SAFETY is of the paramount importance like it states in the REFUGEE convention, then Indonesia is their safe port of call.
Not to mention they are culturally and religiously more in tune as well.

They are cowards. We have our men fighting over there and these weasels run like cockroaches and don't even want to help them. Pussies.
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RELAX, AUSSIES...AND GET USED TO IT...WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU ALL OF OURS!!
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Indonesia doesnt need asylum. The Afghans come from Indonesia.
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Indonesia doesnt need asylum. The Afghans come from Indonesia.
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The afghans dont come from indonesia, they travel to there. From there to oz
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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No, i didn't.

can you please post a link to reference and varify this claim?
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Yes they do - they immediantly qualify for disability payments if they cannot speak english, there is a extra payment for them atop that, et et. Our own men/women who were to get cancer or lose legs now dont. If they can work 12 hrs a week - minimum wage any job the govt claims they could do, but what is the odds of being hired one arm one leg seriously, and even if you were how would u live on that before the costs to get there.

There is a list out somewhere by a guy from the rsl who lists all the benefits they can and do get - many muslims on 59,000 a year. It was doing the facebook rounds at some point and should be easy to find - he was from frankston rsl.

Muslims each wife gets payment et et. They are coming here for welfare living nothing more. Gosh the one on the front page of the sun the other morning was so fat her arms had lard batwings .. please this is no " hard done by pauper ".
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
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No, i didn't.

can you please post a link to reference and varify this claim?
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Yes they do - they immediantly qualify for disability payments if they cannot speak english, there is a extra payment for them atop that, et et. Our own men/women who were to get cancer or lose legs now dont. If they can work 12 hrs a week - minimum wage any job the govt claims they could do, but what is the odds of being hired one arm one leg seriously, and even if you were how would u live on that before the costs to get there.

There is a list out somewhere by a guy from the rsl who lists all the benefits they can and do get - many muslims on 59,000 a year. It was doing the facebook rounds at some point and should be easy to find - he was from frankston rsl.

Muslims each wife gets payment et et. They are coming here for welfare living nothing more. Gosh the one on the front page of the sun the other morning was so fat her arms had lard batwings .. please this is no " hard done by pauper ".
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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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They could just stop in Indonesia, where the population is majority muslim, and they will fit in nicely, but indonesia is not good enough for them. This shows they are economic refugees, not legitimate. I don't have any sympathy.
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Let's have politicians pretend to argue about this shit for another 15 years, that will solve it.
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It is Indonesias problem, how can they be seeking asylum in Australia?
When they have already left their country they are supposedly escaping from, and are in Indonesia?
Why are they not getting asylum in Indonesia?
They only want to come here to get money the pieces of shit slime.
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let them stay in indonesia, they get that far and its safe over there. NO they dont want to stay in indonesia as they are economic refugees and anything else is pure bullshite, they put their kids at risk for what. Understand once they reach indonesia they are safe. There are no problems in that country.
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Exactly why does the media hide this fact constantly?
Its been said by a sri lankan ambassador that people in Sri Lanka have been PAID to come here, yes that's right actually paid to come here.
By Cultural Marxist groups and green leftist assholes.
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Just wait till all the American Obamacare refugees start flooding in.
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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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They're not allowed to by the Australian government either.
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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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They're not allowed to by the Australian government either.
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then you MORONS need to get the facts straight...don't be making up bullshit that they got to stay in Indo when they can't.
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Boat people = target practice for the Navy!!

Did you know the blood suckers get $49,000 a year in handouts and freebies while our retired pensioners who paid Tax all their working lives get jack shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1118877


No, i didn't.

can you please post a link to reference and varify this claim?
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Yes they do - they immediantly qualify for disability payments if they cannot speak english, there is a extra payment for them atop that, et et. Our own men/women who were to get cancer or lose legs now dont. If they can work 12 hrs a week - minimum wage any job the govt claims they could do, but what is the odds of being hired one arm one leg seriously, and even if you were how would u live on that before the costs to get there.

There is a list out somewhere by a guy from the rsl who lists all the benefits they can and do get - many muslims on 59,000 a year. It was doing the facebook rounds at some point and should be easy to find - he was from frankston rsl.

Muslims each wife gets payment et et. They are coming here for welfare living nothing more. Gosh the one on the front page of the sun the other morning was so fat her arms had lard batwings .. please this is no " hard done by pauper ".
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Do asylum seekers and refugees receive higher welfare benefits than other Australians?

Asylum seekers living in the community are granted welfare under the Asylum Seeker Assistance Scheme. Payments are equivalent to 89 per cent of the Centrelink Newstart Allowance. Asylum seekers in immigration detention centres receive a small allowance but do not receive Centrelink equivalent payments.

Once granted refugee status, former asylum seekers are entitled to the same benefits as any other permanent Australian resident. However, they are exempt from the standard waiting period that applies to migrants seeking to access social security payments or concession cards. They also receive short-term assistance aimed at helping them settle effectively.

How much does the Government spend on asylum seekers?

ASRC says budget papers reveal the cost of Australia's immigration detention system will hit $800 million in 2011-12. It says at current numbers, with approximately 7,000 people in detention, it will cost $110,000 per asylum seeker in detention in 2011-12.

But it is difficult to put a dollar figure on the cost of processing asylum seekers and keeping them in detention as Australia's policies are not encapsulated as a single program. They entail not just the cost of keeping asylum seekers in detention, but a long list of other costs such as the cost of border monitoring and boat interception, the cost of new infrastructure and the cost of providing legal, medical and other services to detainees.

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I believe the short term assistance package is worth $10,000

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More multiculturalism coming to europe too



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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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They're not allowed to by the Australian government either.
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then you MORONS need to get the facts straight...don't be making up bullshit that they got to stay in Indo when they can't.
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Something you feel strongly about?
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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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lol wtf you Marxist idiot they are claiming refugee status which means once they leave their country they must claim it in the first country they enter.
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they can't stay in Indonesia cuz they're not allowed by the Indo govt.

ffs you people are clueless
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They're not allowed to by the Australian government either.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


then you MORONS need to get the facts straight...don't be making up bullshit that they got to stay in Indo when they can't.
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Fuck you filthy lying piece of troll turd Indonesia accepts refugees you lying scamming fuck they only want to come here to get free money.
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They could just stop in Indonesia, where the population is majority muslim, and they will fit in nicely, but indonesia is not good enough for them. This shows they are economic refugees, not legitimate. I don't have any sympathy.
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clappa
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I hope you bleeding heart lefty labor voters are proud of yourselves now.

This was always the inevitable outcome of having labor in power.

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