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THE TRUTH ABOUT BABYLON THE GREAT.

 
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THE TRUTH ABOUT BABYLON THE GREAT.
TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

MY STATEMENTS:

"Fallen" is Babylon the Great (Revelation 14:8 and Jeremiah 51:49). "The Woman" mentioned in Revelation 17 refers to "The Great City" that rules over the kings/kingdoms of the earth (Revelation 17:18). Babylon is "The Great City" in Iraq mentioned in Revelation 18:21. Read the whole chapter to Jeremiah 51.
There are "Four Great Beasts" mentioned in Daniel 7:3, Daniel 8:22, and Daniel 7:17. They are symbolized as "The Four Great Kingdoms" that will rise from the earth.
"The Beast out of the Sea" that is mentioned in Revelation 13 refers to the "Fourth Beast" from the "North" that will receive the utmost power from Satan/the Dragon. He will have power over "Four Kingdoms." Read: Daniel 7:19-27. The one who took power over the "Forth Kingdom" is "The King of Babylon" a.k.a. "The King of the North" who is also "The Man of Lawlessness."
ALSO READ: Ezekiel 17:11-24, 2 Chronicles 36:15-23, Daniel 9:23-27, Daniel 11, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Revelation 13, and Ezekiel 16.
The King of Babylon is the mystery (false) God of this world. He was given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation for 42 months (Revelation 17, Revelation 13:7, and Revelation 13:5). That makes him the leader of the world, the president of the North (U.S.), and the prince of Babylon. Those who worship his image have the mark of the beast.
In chapter Revelation 17, "The Prostitute" a.k.a. "The Mother of Prostitutes" refers to "Judah and Jerusalem" (Jeremiah 7:30-34 and Isaiah 19:17). "The Beast" and "The Ten Kings" shall make her desolate (Revelation 17:16-17).
"The Seven Heads" are "The Seven Mountains/Hills and The Seven Kings" (Revelation 17:9-11). "The Ten Horns" are the "The Ten Kings" that will desecrate/destroy and steal God's Holy City/Kingdom. The main Beast will subdue three "Kings." For one hour, he will give his "Mighty fortress Gods" authority as kings before they go to their destruction along with the beast and the people with the mark. Read: Daniel 7:15-27 and Revelation 17:9-14.

In Chapter John 14 verse 28 through 31, Jesus stated to his disciples that he will be going away and will be coming back. Than Jesus said, "I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me, but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me."

According to God through the prophets/bible, he stated that the King of Babylon will make a false oath with his people (which are the Israeli troops and etc..) and will send them off to Egypt to do his will (Ezekiel 17:12-13). That is why God was very angry at his people because they have broken his covenant, his laws, and his decrees by following other Gods and by following the evil works of Baal.
Since God's Holy City a.k.a. Judah and Jerusalem became defiled/corrupted by its evil/sinful/detestable practices of the Babylonians, God had to send a curse upon the land, so that every one of them will be perished by the sword (Jeremiah 44:12). The only ones that will not go into captivity/that will not fall by the sword are the ones that do not have the mark of the beasts written on their foreheads. Read: Revelation 13:10, Revelation 7:3, and Revelation 14:1, and Revelation 14:9-12.

Judah and Jerusalem has now become like the city of Sodom and Gomorrah. Read Isaiah 1.
Do you not see the desolation happening in the middle east today? We are definitely living in the last days!
SEE PICTURES: [link to gma.yahoo.com]
Very soon, God will destroy Babylon the Great! Very soon God will create a new heaven and earth for his chosen people! He will make a new Jerusalem that will come down out of heaven. It will be the new Holy City that will be placed on earth (Revelation 21).


MORE DETAILS:
In the book of Daniel, chapter 9, verse 2, it stated that Daniel understood that the desolation of Jerusalem would last for seventy(70) years, not for seven(7) years.
Read Daniel 9:24-27 which talks about the the end of the 70 weeks of desolation prophesied by Daniel the prophet.
For 70 weeks, Jerusalem will be surrounded by armies, and the land will become desolate due to the war/massacre.
As I stated before, "The King of Babylon" (who refers to the the "King of the North"/"The Man of Lawlessness"/"The Beast") will make a peace treaty/will confirm a covenant with (the god of fortresses mentioned in Daniel 11:38) for one week. In the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
During the end times, when "The King of Babylon/The King of the North" sets up an abomination that causes desolation, he will try to desecrate God's Holy City and will try to break the peace treaty before he goes to his destruction which the Lord will overthrow him by the breath of his coming (2 Thessalonians 2:8-17). Many countries will fall (Daniel 11:45, Amos 1 and Amos 2).

Read about "The Two Witnesses" in Revelation 11:1-6: [link to niv.scripturetext.com]

The Two Witnesses in the middle east were prophesying for 42 months. Their job was to warn the Israeli/rebels about the coming terror/destruction/tribulation that was going to come upon them. Since the rebels have not taken heed to their warnings, they have fallen by the sword.
The prophets prophesied that there will not be peace, but a sword (Ezekiel 7:25).

There were also false prophets prophesying too, but they were prophesying false consolations stating that there will be peace when there isn't going to be peace.
Read Ezekiel 13 "False Prophets Condemned." LINK: [link to niv.scripturetext.com]

READ: Luke 21:20 and 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

Daniel 12:11-12. “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days."

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Then you know the city then? And why? We were warned
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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of Babylon is Rome.
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We will see. I will withhold mine for the time being and why.
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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of is Rome.
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It's America, read the book "The end of America" by John Price, his argument is unimpeachable. When the bible refers to Babylon as a a City, it means a City-State as in Rome. For example, when talking news heads start off the news by saying, "Washington today voted to..." It's not Washington D.C., they are talking about, but the city that it represents. America is represented by several cities.

John Price is offering a kindle version for 99 cents (the lowest Amazon will allow because he wants everyone to read this. I highly recommend it.
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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of Babylon is Rome.
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I got my info from the bible. I backed up my statements with bible verses. Babylon is located in the middle east a.k.a. IRAQ. It is not some abomination name that God came up with.


Rome is the capital of Italy.

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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of is Rome.
 Quoting: wiede 19315691


It's America, read the book "The end of America" by John Price, his argument is unimpeachable. When the bible refers to Babylon as a a City, it means a City-State as in Rome. For example, when talking news heads start off the news by saying, "Washington today voted to..." It's not Washington D.C., they are talking about, but the city that it represents. America is represented by several cities.

John Price is offering a kindle version for 99 cents (the lowest Amazon will allow because he wants everyone to read this. I highly recommend it.
 Quoting: Armageddon Thru To You 14384867


I don't follow man, I follow God. That person is only doing it for the money. Jesus stated in the word that Christians can not serve GOD and MONEY (Luke 16:13). Jesus also stated through the word that there will be many false prophets and teachers who goes against God's word (1 John 4:1). You have to keep what is written and not go beyond what is written. God/Bible warns not to add or subtract from it (Revelation 22:18-19). The bible does not mentioned anything about the AMERICA, but it does mentioned about the King of the North who will cause desolation.

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My thoughts here are the bible describes churches as a woman in keeping with that theme the Vatican would be a whore not to mention the seven hills and purple and scarlet robes worn by the clergy. Also bible scholars from the reformation were convinced the Vatican was the only place that perfectly fits the biblical description. I believe back then before tv people put a lot more work into their bible study then today.
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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of is Rome.
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It's America, read the book "The end of America" by John Price, his argument is unimpeachable. When the bible refers to Babylon as a a City, it means a City-State as in Rome. For example, when talking news heads start off the news by saying, "Washington today voted to..." It's not Washington D.C., they are talking about, but the city that it represents. America is represented by several cities.

John Price is offering a kindle version for 99 cents (the lowest Amazon will allow because he wants everyone to read this. I highly recommend it.
 Quoting: Armageddon Thru To You 14384867



There is one thing I would add to that. Washington was inaugurated in NYC. It was the first capital of the United States.

Remember 9-11? There was a reason and those who committed the act were being used as a tool as were their leaders. I will reference Isa 9:10. Funny how Dashchle (the Speaker at the time) uttered the same words as that verse. That sycamore that is immortalized in bronze saved the church where this country was consecrated to God.

I won't go into the UN that is a subject that's beaten to death around here. For that matter the idol that sits in the harbor amongst others.

What makes the world go around? I've heard it said it was money. Jesus said one cannot serve two masters he will love one and hate another. How is it that CNBC puts it? Oh that's right the financial capital of the world. Washington doesn't run the world NYC does.

True there is no shortage of canidates for the dubious honor of the whore of Babylon. It could even be the be the original site or Rome. I've been taught by men all of those theories.

I mentioned Isiah 9:10 before. The why lies in Isiah 10:1-5, it's best to read the whole chapter. James (Jesus' half brother) refined it in his fifth chapter.

I could go on and on, but I would bore you.

May Our Holy, Merciful and Mighty Father bless all of you
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I think for different reasons Rome and nyc both fit the description pretty well but for me the seven hills and the description being a woman makes me lean towards Rome. I agree nyc fits like a glove as well.
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I think for different reasons Rome and nyc both fit the description pretty well but for me the seven hills and the description being a woman makes me lean towards Rome. I agree nyc fits like a glove as well.
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It's not Rome. The bible states that Rome is loved by God, and God is loved by Rome.
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Where? Assuming it does say that I would think it means god loves the Catholics who believe they are properly serving him even though they worship Mary who was a mortal.
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Where? Assuming it does say that I would think it means god loves the Catholics who believe they are properly serving him even though they worship Mary who was a mortal.
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Roman:1-17 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul’s Longing to Visit Rome

First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world. God, whom I serve with my whole heart in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.

I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong— that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith. I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that I planned many times to come to you (but have been prevented from doing so until now) in order that I might have a harvest among you, just as I have had among the other Gentiles.

I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are at Rome.

I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jewish, then for the Gentile. For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

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Where? Assuming it does say that I would think it means god loves the Catholics who believe they are properly serving him even though they worship Mary who was a mortal.
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Roman Catholic is not mentioned in the bible. Catholic is just a another false denomination, it's not of God, it's of the devil. Just because the Catholics consider themselves Roman Catholic, doesn't mean that they are Romans or from Rome.

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I think for different reasons Rome and nyc both fit the description pretty well but for me the seven hills and the description being a woman makes me lean towards Rome. I agree nyc fits like a glove as well.
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Look at some of the old Dutch maps> The Lady welllll...actually they sort of tie in together as well as the purple.
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I believe god does love the Catholics but I don't believe for a minute he loves the way the Vatican has paganized christianity. The message the Vatican gives the people is against god like the pope being able to forgive sins, putting bones of dead saints in the altars, changing the Sabbath to Sunday just to name a few. Clearly the Vatican isn't following the bible I read I think the Vatican uses the crucifix as its sign its continuously crucifying Christ.
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Then you know the city then? And why? We were warned
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The whore is Saudi Arabia, the biggest sponsor of mosques in the world. And an example ofopulance. A diamond studed rolls Royce, at 43000000 value.
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Terrible interpretation.
For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise. - Benjamin Franklin
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I think for different reasons Rome and nyc both fit the description pretty well but for me the seven hills and the description being a woman makes me lean towards Rome. I agree nyc fits like a glove as well.
 Quoting: wiede 19329706


Look at some of the old Dutch maps> The Lady welllll...actually they sort of tie in together as well as the purple.
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Please elaborate.
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Terrible interpretation.
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There's nothing for me to interpret, the prophets in the bible have already interpreted it for us. They receive revelations/visions, and they interpret them for us to know the meaning behind the symbols. I suggest you start reading your bible and lay off of man's interpretations of scriptures if you want the truth. I gave you truth through cross referencing scriptures. I don't go slandering nations and people by saying, "it's AMERICA or HILLARY CLINTON."

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I believe god does love the Catholics but I don't believe for a minute he loves the way the Vatican has paganized christianity. The message the Vatican gives the people is against god like the pope being able to forgive sins, putting bones of dead saints in the altars, changing the Sabbath to Sunday just to name a few. Clearly the Vatican isn't following the bible I read I think the Vatican uses the crucifix as its sign its continuously crucifying Christ.
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That is no doubt
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I think for different reasons Rome and nyc both fit the description pretty well but for me the seven hills and the description being a woman makes me lean towards Rome. I agree nyc fits like a glove as well.
 Quoting: wiede 19329706


Look at some of the old Dutch maps> The Lady welllll...actually they sort of tie in together as well as the purple.
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Please elaborate.
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Bump

I will explain later I have to get some sleep
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I disagree with your interpretation, the whore of is Rome.
 Quoting: wiede 19315691


It's America, read the book "The end of America" by John Price, his argument is unimpeachable. When the bible refers to Babylon as a a City, it means a City-State as in Rome. For example, when talking news heads start off the news by saying, "Washington today voted to..." It's not Washington D.C., they are talking about, but the city that it represents. America is represented by several cities.

John Price is offering a kindle version for 99 cents (the lowest Amazon will allow because he wants everyone to read this. I highly recommend it.
 Quoting: Armageddon Thru To You 14384867


Yes, a city-state. Many falsely think it must refer to a city but it is actually a nation. Babylon was a classic city-state and that hints to us what Mystery Babylon is. A nation, not a city.
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You're all correct ;)
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