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Thinking is Electric and a New Look at Balance - Neg/Pos/Neg with Positive Being the Fulcrum

 
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Cemi theory

The starting point for McFadden and Pockett's theory is the fact that every time a neuron fires to generate an action potential, and a postsynaptic potential in the next neuron down the line, it also generates a disturbance in the surrounding electromagnetic field. McFadden has proposed that the brain's electromagnetic field creates a representation of the information in the neurons. Studies undertaken towards the end of the 20th century are argued to have shown that conscious experience correlates not with the number of neurons firing, but with the synchrony of that firing.[9] McFadden views the brain's electromagnetic field as arising from the induced EM field of neurons. The synchronous firing of neurons is, in this theory, argued to amplify the influence of the brain's EM field fluctuations to a much greater extent than would be possible with the unsynchronized firing of neurons.
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I was just reading today about how crystalline structure within the mircrotubules of our body transmit "light" energy in the form of biophotons. Its cool to think about how our brains and neurons can produce all kinds of electromagnetic fields and energies. Its so cool to think about what we are capable of!! Our thoughts are very very powerful!
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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The Conscious Electromagnetic
Information (Cemi) Field Theory


As I emphasized in my earlier paper, the cemi field theory is based on the very simple premise that em fields impact on neuron firing and may thereby contribute both positively and negatively to information processing in the brain. If this is accepted (and, along with the arguments outlined in my earlier paper, the COGS experiment described above indicates that field effects may at least contribute to information processing in artificial systems) then natural selection will inevitably act to optimize field-level effects when they provide an advantage and minimize them when they are detrimental. Over millions of years, two parallel systems will evolve: an em field-sensitive information processing system and an em field-insensitive system. The cemi field theory proposes that these systems correspond to our conscious and unconscious mind, respectively. I show here that the cemi field theory is robust to criticism and is rich with insights and implications for our understanding of mind, free will and artificial intelligence. The theory accounts for why consciousness is serial, why synchronous firing of neurons correlate with attention and awareness, and why readiness potentials are detected prior to conscious actions. Unlike many ‘theories of consciousness’ that deal primarily with abstractions with no or little reference to the underlying neurophysiological processes, the cemi field theory is firmly grounded in the neurophysiology of the brain without recourse to any new physics or new biology.
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Cemi theory

The starting point for McFadden and Pockett's theory is the fact that every time a neuron fires to generate an action potential, and a postsynaptic potential in the next neuron down the line, it also generates a disturbance in the surrounding electromagnetic field. McFadden has proposed that the brain's electromagnetic field creates a representation of the information in the neurons. Studies undertaken towards the end of the 20th century are argued to have shown that conscious experience correlates not with the number of neurons firing, but with the synchrony of that firing.[9] McFadden views the brain's electromagnetic field as arising from the induced EM field of neurons. The synchronous firing of neurons is, in this theory, argued to amplify the influence of the brain's EM field fluctuations to a much greater extent than would be possible with the unsynchronized firing of neurons.
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I was just reading today about how crystalline structure within the mircrotubules of our body transmit "light" energy in the form of biophotons. Its cool to think about how our brains and neurons can produce all kinds of electromagnetic fields and energies. Its so cool to think about what we are capable of!! Our thoughts are very very powerful!
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It's too bad there is not more research done in these fields.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Cool thread op, +5 an pin. Btw what does the red pin mean?
~the secret to life is to AwakeN before death~(realizing there is no death)~

~How would you approach life if you knew your every thought/emotion dictated every aspect of your projected physical reality?~
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Cemi theory

The starting point for McFadden and Pockett's theory is the fact that every time a neuron fires to generate an action potential, and a postsynaptic potential in the next neuron down the line, it also generates a disturbance in the surrounding electromagnetic field. McFadden has proposed that the brain's electromagnetic field creates a representation of the information in the neurons. Studies undertaken towards the end of the 20th century are argued to have shown that conscious experience correlates not with the number of neurons firing, but with the synchrony of that firing.[9] McFadden views the brain's electromagnetic field as arising from the induced EM field of neurons. The synchronous firing of neurons is, in this theory, argued to amplify the influence of the brain's EM field fluctuations to a much greater extent than would be possible with the unsynchronized firing of neurons.
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I was just reading today about how crystalline structure within the mircrotubules of our body transmit "light" energy in the form of biophotons. Its cool to think about how our brains and neurons can produce all kinds of electromagnetic fields and energies. Its so cool to think about what we are capable of!! Our thoughts are very very powerful!
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Quantum electrodynamics (QED) is the relativistic quantum field theory of electrodynamics.
In essence, it describes how light and matter interact and is the first theory where full agreement between quantum mechanics and special relativity is achieved. QED mathematically describes all phenomena involving electrically charged particles interacting by means of exchange of photons and represents the quantum counterpart of classical electrodynamics giving a complete account of matter and light interaction. One of the founding fathers of QED, Richard Feynman, has called it "the jewel of physics" for its extremely accurate predictions of quantities like the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron, and the Lamb shift of the energy levels of hydrogen.[1]
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Cool thread op, +5 an pin. Btw what does the red pin mean?
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It is already pinned. So, if you push the red pin, you are voting to 'unpin' it.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Thread: DNA emits light - scientific basis for "lightbody"- tingling? ears ringing? odd sensations?
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Our DNA reacts as an antennae to the environment around us. It also emits light in the form of bio-photons...receiving AND sending information to and from the environment around us. This energetic lightbody is VERY real and has been researched in depth by scientists over the last few years - [link to www.youtube.com]

<-- the Living Matrix is an amazing video about many different topics related to our energetic bodies and healing!

Energetically the world is shifting into a higher vibratory state. Many are still "stuck" in a lower vibration as they are completely disconnected to Mother Earth and her rhythms...but those who have woken up per se, are starting to notice changes in their body and in the environment around them as they try to cleanse their mind/body/spirit and begin reconnecting...as this happens-->

Our bodies are beginning to emit more "light" in the form of bio-photons!

[link to transpersonal.de]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

Light in human consciousness

"I mention this latest work for those who may wish to explore the boundaries of photon research and theory. In a ground-breaking paper with the lengthy title of "Orchestrated Objective Reduction of Quantum Coherence in Brain Microtubules: The 'Orch OR' Model for Consciousness" by Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose, the brain is described as a quantum computer whose main architecture are the cytoskeletal microtubules and other structures within each of the brain's neurons.

If you examine a neuron, you will see that there are many hollow tubes surrounding the axon. These microtubules have been thought of as a kind of scaffold to support the nerve fiber. But they are now getting a second look as the possible architecture of our consciousness.

The particular characteristics of microtubules that make them suitable for quantum effects include their crystal-like lattice structure, hollow inner core, organization of cell function and capacity for information processing. According to the researchers, their size appears perfectly designed to transmit photons in the UV range."
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Check Russel's "Atomic Suicide"

1. The origin of the universe is in the infinite All-consciousness that can only manifest itself in contradictions.

2. The true goal of the creation is love, and this needs at least one partner.

3. Then this partner must always have existed in the infinite, and must, according to point 1. exist out of contradictions in character and nature.
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Cemi theory

The starting point for McFadden and Pockett's theory is the fact that every time a neuron fires to generate an action potential, and a postsynaptic potential in the next neuron down the line, it also generates a disturbance in the surrounding electromagnetic field. McFadden has proposed that the brain's electromagnetic field creates a representation of the information in the neurons. Studies undertaken towards the end of the 20th century are argued to have shown that conscious experience correlates not with the number of neurons firing, but with the synchrony of that firing.[9] McFadden views the brain's electromagnetic field as arising from the induced EM field of neurons. The synchronous firing of neurons is, in this theory, argued to amplify the influence of the brain's EM field fluctuations to a much greater extent than would be possible with the unsynchronized firing of neurons.
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 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I was just reading today about how crystalline structure within the mircrotubules of our body transmit "light" energy in the form of biophotons. Its cool to think about how our brains and neurons can produce all kinds of electromagnetic fields and energies. Its so cool to think about what we are capable of!! Our thoughts are very very powerful!
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


It's too bad there is not more research done in these fields.
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haha there is...I'm sure...we just aren't privy to the information yet. There is some out there...but not enough. Have you see the movie The Living matrix?
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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Thread: DNA emits light - scientific basis for "lightbody"- tingling? ears ringing? odd sensations?
...
Our DNA reacts as an antennae to the environment around us. It also emits light in the form of bio-photons...receiving AND sending information to and from the environment around us. This energetic lightbody is VERY real and has been researched in depth by scientists over the last few years - [link to www.youtube.com]

<-- the Living Matrix is an amazing video about many different topics related to our energetic bodies and healing!

Energetically the world is shifting into a higher vibratory state. Many are still "stuck" in a lower vibration as they are completely disconnected to Mother Earth and her rhythms...but those who have woken up per se, are starting to notice changes in their body and in the environment around them as they try to cleanse their mind/body/spirit and begin reconnecting...as this happens-->

Our bodies are beginning to emit more "light" in the form of bio-photons!

[link to transpersonal.de]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

Light in human consciousness

"I mention this latest work for those who may wish to explore the boundaries of photon research and theory. In a ground-breaking paper with the lengthy title of "Orchestrated Objective Reduction of Quantum Coherence in Brain Microtubules: The 'Orch OR' Model for Consciousness" by Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose, the brain is described as a quantum computer whose main architecture are the cytoskeletal microtubules and other structures within each of the brain's neurons.

If you examine a neuron, you will see that there are many hollow tubes surrounding the axon. These microtubules have been thought of as a kind of scaffold to support the nerve fiber. But they are now getting a second look as the possible architecture of our consciousness.

The particular characteristics of microtubules that make them suitable for quantum effects include their crystal-like lattice structure, hollow inner core, organization of cell function and capacity for information processing. According to the researchers, their size appears perfectly designed to transmit photons in the UV range."
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Thanks SoS!

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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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Truth is the supply of power and lies are the consumer of power.

Something sustains the existence of nothing.

Lies depend upon Truth for their existence.

Until of course the lies are revealed.

Once a lie requires infinite power to sustain it's existence

It requires Truth which is the only source of such power.

That is revelation...and the lie self destructs.

Only to be reborn again...Because at the instant it must die forever...It doesen't.

Because it can't defeat Truth which is infinite and indestructible.

Unless you can choose to stop taking more than you give and share equally.

Once you comprehend Truth...You can always obtain what you need.

If you don't comprehend Truth...You are sustained by want.

You need Truth but want lies.

Because from your Perspective...Truth is negative and lies are positive.

Truth is evil and lies are good.

Lies are Truth and Truth is a lie.

It just can't be.

But it is I'm sorry to say.

I can see what you all refuse to or can't.

Because it threatens what you believe is Truth with death.

Your cherished delusions.

You all will fight to the death to protect that which you cherish.

You all will fight to the Death to remain asleep to enjoy the dream you are awake.

Hacking yourselves to pieces attempting to reacquire what you never had...or acquire what you you never will.

Freedom from Truth.

Truth is GOD and GOD is Truth.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil.
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So, what are you trying to say, Hypertiger?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I think it's something about truth and lies...I missed the point too...to be honest.
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GREAT POST THOUGH!! people should be more concerned with this then nobody nowhere doing nothing
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doing no thing that you are aware of

this much is true

which doesn't mean squat in truth
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Check Russel's "Atomic Suicide"

1. The origin of the universe is in the infinite All-consciousness that can only manifest itself in contradictions.

2. The true goal of the creation is love, and this needs at least one partner.

3. Then this partner must always have existed in the infinite, and must, according to point 1. exist out of contradictions in character and nature.
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maybe THATS the point of reincarnation ?hmm
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I am still to read the entire thread but amazed that I opened glp on this thread.
I was walking up at the dam by the nature reserve watching the sun sink and the clouds illuminate.
The words be an emissary of light came to me.
And I saw the light.

And then I come here and Walter Russell's "The secret of Light" presents itself.

Curioser and curioser.

gratitude turns what we have into enough.
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I am still to read the entire thread but amazed that I opened glp on this thread.
I was walking up at the dam by the nature reserve watching the sun sink and the clouds illuminate.
The words be an emissary of light came to me.
And I saw the light.

And then I come here and Walter Russell's "The secret of Light" presents itself.

Curioser and curioser.

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thumbs
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I am still to read the entire thread but amazed that I opened glp on this thread.
I was walking up at the dam by the nature reserve watching the sun sink and the clouds illuminate.
The words be an emissary of light came to me.
And I saw the light.

And then I come here and Walter Russell's "The secret of Light" presents itself.

Curioser and curioser.

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thats awesome! Syncronycity is increasing for you for sure! Its funny how EVERYTHING and everywhere we turn, there is information about light and vibrations...

its in the songs we hear on the radio, its in the new techy things coming out nowadays, high "vibration" foods, water, its everything! :)
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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clappa
Ending Time from Centers called Me:
The important thing is that we are willing to explore and communicate. Do not always look to others for approval of what you have discovered. We have cultivated a mind that can solve almost any technological problems, and apparently spirit-human beings are drowning by their problems have never been solved. The problems of communication, problem of knowledge, relationships, problems of heaven/hell~you know, the whole spiritual-human existence has become a vast complex problem.
And apparently throughout history it has been like this. And wo-man in spite of her/his centuries of evolution.
She/He has never been free of problems.(insoluble).
No politician, scientist, or philosopher is going to solve them except through wars and so on. So why has the mind of spirit-human beings throughout the world, haven't resolved daily life issues?
What are the things that prevent the solution of these issues, completely? Has it that we have never turned our minds to it? Is it our education, deep rooted traditions that we accept things as they are? Yes.
Religion has created a tremendous problem for all. Technologically and Psychologically.We are all challenge with something. It is not a problem. It is a matter of clarification than. Part of the difficulty is clarification of the language. It is a question of relationship and action. I mean by problem something that has to be resolved, something you worry about, you are endlessly concerned and questioning, answering, doubt, uncertain, and take some kind of action at the end which you will regret. Technical problems are fairly simple. They often bring challenges requiring you to go very deeply and change your ideas. Ex:"Generally if there is lack of food, than produce more, find ways and means of doing so."
Now we have a psychological problem, can we do the same? Well what kind of problem shall we discuss? (Spirit-Human Problems) what sort (Relationship) * Lets say ppl cannot agree, they fight constantly. (to think together), to agree on the same outlook, attitude, not copying but which seems normal, healthy. Without a monetary involvement.
*Opinions are shared, but we don't meet eye to eye on it, what shall we do? It seems to always impossible to give up one's opinions. Fact or Truth?
Opinions and self-interest. (Beings) working together, not for some ideal, for some belief, or a god, or a principle, but the importance of working, together-In the U.N. conflicts, India conflicts. No beings in any country feels or work together. These conflicts are based on Self-Interest. If you get rid of self-interests relates to Centers-Beliefs, Me, Myself & I, whats left? (Being). When self interest centers are gone, attention takes place.
And from no "Center" from which I attend, there is no "I, Me", only attention~Being~No She/He/No Thought. How do you stop Thought? When one supposes one is paying attention, that is no attention-mindful. What is attention and inattention without "Center", Me, I-Thoughts? This must be understood deeply. Are you able to let go of your center, Me, I psychologically? Namaste
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The Sun is Electric
The Moon is Magnetic

Great insight OP.

Peace
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GREAT POST THOUGH!! people should be more concerned with this then nobody nowhere doing nothing
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clappa
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You will have to be more specific

Playing dumb doesn't work on me.
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i have to disagree, respectfully.

duality is a construct. saying true balance is all positive is a self-negating statement. neutrality is the balancing point.
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You will have to be more specific

Playing dumb doesn't work on me.
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Never mind then. I guess you are talking about some dogmatic truths or something.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I like the way you think.

Great thread OP
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We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



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Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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i have to disagree, respectfully.

duality is a construct. saying true balance is all positive is a self-negating statement. neutrality is the balancing point.
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I think concepts get muddied by the language.

Perhaps instead of terming it as "positive" or "negative", think of the concept behind the moved and unmoved.

These (and all) terms are constructs of language loaded with predetermined and yet ever varying ideas. Thus they are unstable in their very nature both individually (personal bias) and universally (cultural bias) .

Language has to be transcended in order to discuss concepts from a more broad perspective.....to see the forest and not simply the trees. Yet we can not abandon language, as it is our current method of expression, so it must be transcended in the pursuit of a real understanding of conceptual truths. Transcendence is necessary due to the flawed nature of language when expressing concepts yet it can not abandoned all together since it is currently a necessity in the exchange of ideas.
We cannot see the forest without also seeing the trees, no?

Words (constructs of language) have no solid foundation of conceptual soundness, as I have pointed out above, yet we must us language to engage in the exchange and discussion of concepts among each other because it is currently what we have (or have working knowledge of using) in our tool box. But we should remember that language (words) are simply that, tools...and they can be manipulated (bent) in order to take full advantage of the opportunities that are with in them, rather than being bound by their perceived and defined utility, which is often undeniably rigid and confusing in its (past, current and future) technical descriptions.


I hope that made sense..... expressing language without becoming subjected to the nature of language is possible, I believe, its just hard as hell to do.

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Re: Thinking is Electric and a New Look at Balance - Neg/Pos/Neg with Positive Being the Fulcrum
We live in a world characterized by pairs of opposites and divinity lies between these pairs...trascends the duality. Think of a three faced mask with one facing right, one left and one in the middle. Divinity is the middle face. It is not possible to experience the material world in any other way than dualistically. We can transcend the material world and experience the divine....oneness/infinity. It is lonely if you are not prepared. You have been there before but forgot....when you remember it will be familiar...it will scare the shit out of you if you arent ready. You could lose your sanity unless you are strong and selfless.

BTW....Is SS in the OP also the old Siksent?
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We live in a world characterized by pairs of opposites and divinity lies between these pairs...trascends the duality. Think of a three faced mask with one facing right, one left and one in the middle. Divinity is the middle face. It is not possible to experience the material world in any other way than dualistically. We can transcend the material world and experience the divine....oneness/infinity. It is lonely if you are not prepared. You have been there before but forgot....when you remember it will be familiar...it will scare the shit out of you if you arent ready. You could lose your sanity unless you are strong and selfless.

BTW....Is SS in the OP also the old Siksent?
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yep

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i have to disagree, respectfully.

duality is a construct. saying true balance is all positive is a self-negating statement. neutrality is the balancing point.
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I think concepts get muddied by the language.

Perhaps instead of terming it as "positive" or "negative", think of the concept behind the moved and unmoved.

These (and all) terms are constructs of language loaded with predetermined and yet ever varying ideas. Thus they are unstable in their very nature both individually (personal bias) and universally (cultural bias) .

Language has to be transcended in order to discuss concepts from a more broad perspective.....to see the forest and not simply the trees. Yet we can not abandon language, as it is our current method of expression, so it most simply be transcended. We can not see the forest without seeing the trees, no?

Words (constructs of language) have no solid foundation of conceptual soundness, as I have pointed out above, yet we must us language to engage in the exchange and discussion of concepts among each other because it is currently what we have (or have working knowledge of using) in our tool box. But we should remember that language (words) are simply that, tools...and they can be manipulated (bent) in order to take full advantage of the opportunities that are with in them, rather than being bound by their perceived and defined utility, which is often undeniably rigid and confusing in its (past, current and future) technical descriptions.


I hope that made sense..... expressing language without becoming subjected to the nature of language is possible, I believe, its just hard as hell to do.
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Hey now you are getting it, the idea of the monopole is just this, one direction of polarity.
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