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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 07/08/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Hermaphrodites ... people born with BOTH make and female reproductive organs ... so, where do they fit into your agenda of discrimination and disgust towards others for their innate cravings? What does that have to do with Transgender people, who can pretend to be a Female when they are Male? What do you mean 'pretend'? People that live out something they are not.. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Spitting Into The Wind User ID: 16376408 United States 07/08/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. You want some real ones? Try the ones who few know about, like Dave Wilkerson, Gary C. Price, Derek Price, Leonard Ravenhill, and Jim Brown of Grace & Truth Ministries. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 07/08/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind You want some real ones? Try the ones who few know about, like Dave Wilkerson, Gary C. Price, Derek Price, Leonard Ravenhill, and Jim Brown of Grace & Truth Ministries. I dis-agree with you whole-heartedly, however I do admire the teachings of David Wilkerson.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 07/08/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind Your statement does not match my experience. Could you provide an example of "Word twisting" for me? Thanks. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19146924 United States 07/08/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Trannys and fags can spout scripture as well as anyone else. Who gives a crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19146924 We've got a lot bigger problems than tranny preachers. Gain some perspective people. This stuff is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. yes it is, like this "election" going on here. I have cared for tranys. They are born that way, and the body is NOT THE SOUL. There are people born IN THE WRONG BODY. The solution is to admit and deal with that most of the time and not the surgery and if there is going to be surgery, its not done when somebody is 60 already, it is too hard on the Pysche then for everyone involved. Some of these are souls incarnate to teach lessons on earth that man needs to look at. Ditto some of the gays who are here with an agenda to teach. You do not judge the body or the soul, because you do not know the mission of some people who come here. The Trany is not a global problem. Nor is it a sin. It simply IS. I'm no expert but I do believe some folks are born in the wrong body. Or should I say, their brain may be one gender and their body another. Now some of them go through life as they are and some get surgery. I'm not going to judge or tell them that they can't get the surgery cause they're too old. It's their business what they do and when they do it. Just like it's their business if they want to become a preacher. It's not like anyone is being forced to listen to a tranny preach. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18860801 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau Hermaphrodites ... people born with BOTH make and female reproductive organs ... so, where do they fit into your agenda of discrimination and disgust towards others for their innate cravings? What does that have to do with Transgender people, who can pretend to be a Female when they are Male? What do you mean 'pretend'? People that live out something they are not.. So, if a 'born male' makes the decision, after years of mental suffering, to go through the painful but life changing procedure to become female and happy, this is 'pretend'? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19146924 United States 07/08/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church ... Quoting: christian What does that have to do with Transgender people, who can pretend to be a Female when they are Male? What do you mean 'pretend'? People that live out something they are not.. So, if a 'born male' makes the decision, after years of mental suffering, to go through the painful but life changing procedure to become female and happy, this is 'pretend'? According to highly self righteous pretend christians it is. |
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JayneyC User ID: 19375253 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church You fucking hypocrites! The Bible also says that adultery is a sin.. How many fuckers in church have done THAT?? Yeshua said;" To look at a woman with lust is committing adultery in your heart" And to hate your brother, is to "commit murder in you heart".. Those two points make the WHOLE human race murderous adulterers! We are here to LOVE... NOT to judge.. God is judge.. And it is God who changes people NOT the church.. All you self righteous wankers do is condemn... NO_ONE was saved through condemnation, but by love.. The love of God.. Anyone without the attitude of love does not know God and will go to hell.. Walking in the Spirit is to walk in love.. Jesus said "You will be known by your love"... So what are YOU known by then?? You need to go to the cross!! And I say that with love.. Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? |
katiepea User ID: 4707472 United States 07/08/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church wtf is going on in this country?!?! the God i know is a real elitist and only lets perfect people in the church. this "tolerance" stuff has gone way too far! at this rate heaven will be too full for the judgmental braindead to all fit in!!! |
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Spitting Into The Wind User ID: 16376408 United States 07/08/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind You want some real ones? Try the ones who few know about, like Dave Wilkerson, Gary C. Price, Derek Price, Leonard Ravenhill, and Jim Brown of Grace & Truth Ministries. I dis-agree with you whole-heartedly, however I do admire the teachings of David Wilkerson.... Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind Your statement does not match my experience. Could you provide an example of "Word twisting" for me? Thanks. Why will people not do their own research into these "popular" teachers? Charles Stanley should not be in his position because he is divorced. Also, he teaches "Once Saved, Always Saved" and wives conning their husbands into paying tithes: [link to fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com] David Jeremiah [link to www.atruechurch.info] and he sees nothing wrong with TBN Perry Stone is from Pharisaical stock. Do the research into why Jesus had so much trouble with this group. Here are two words to get you started: halakhah and aggadah. There is much more, but YOU need to do the research and analyze what is being taught. All of these men got rich talking about Jesus, yet the Bible teaches to buy the truth and SELL IT NOT. Why not ask YHWH whom you should learn from? He has guided my steps when I hit a brick wall with these men, repeating themselves over and over again. |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 07/08/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind You want some real ones? Try the ones who few know about, like Dave Wilkerson, Gary C. Price, Derek Price, Leonard Ravenhill, and Jim Brown of Grace & Truth Ministries. I dis-agree with you whole-heartedly, however I do admire the teachings of David Wilkerson.... Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, and Perry Stone are false teachers who twist the Word for their benefit and avoid the tougher parts of the Bible. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind Your statement does not match my experience. Could you provide an example of "Word twisting" for me? Thanks. Why will people not do their own research into these "popular" teachers? Charles Stanley should not be in his position because he is divorced. Also, he teaches "Once Saved, Always Saved" and wives conning their husbands into paying tithes: [link to fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com] David Jeremiah [link to www.atruechurch.info] and he sees nothing wrong with TBN Perry Stone is from Pharisaical stock. Do the research into why Jesus had so much trouble with this group. Here are two words to get you started: halakhah and aggadah. There is much more, but YOU need to do the research and analyze what is being taught. All of these men got rich talking about Jesus, yet the Bible teaches to buy the truth and SELL IT NOT. Why not ask YHWH whom you should learn from? He has guided my steps when I hit a brick wall with these men, repeating themselves over and over again. I wish you had answered my request rather than preaching at me. Last Edited by Life and Love on 07/08/2012 08:48 PM We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
JayneyC User ID: 19375253 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: JayneyC You fucking hypocrites! Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? . A Gay transsexual ... lecturing Christians about morality. LOL, now that's funny. . No What is funny is you cherry picking quotes to meet with your bigotry.. Love God? Love people.. If you do not get that then enjoy hell baby... Coz you will be there a long time.. Thats biblical btw.. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 07/08/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church You fucking hypocrites! Quoting: JayneyC The Bible also says that adultery is a sin.. How many fuckers in church have done THAT?? Yeshua said;" To look at a woman with lust is committing adultery in your heart" And to hate your brother, is to "commit murder in you heart".. Those two points make the WHOLE human race murderous adulterers! We are here to LOVE... NOT to judge.. God is judge.. And it is God who changes people NOT the church.. All you self righteous wankers do is condemn... NO_ONE was saved through condemnation, but by love.. The love of God.. Anyone without the attitude of love does not know God and will go to hell.. Walking in the Spirit is to walk in love.. Jesus said "You will be known by your love"... So what are YOU known by then?? You need to go to the cross!! And I say that with love.. Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? YOU ARE RIGHT...JESUS SAID EVERYONE COME...jewish, GENTILE ALL ARE WELCOME... WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE THAT SAY..I LOVE JESUS AND I WANT TO KEEP SINNING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP THE SIN, I HAVE JESUS.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 07/08/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18860801 So, if a 'born male' makes the decision, after years of mental suffering, to go through the painful but life changing procedure to become female and happy, this is 'pretend'? . Christians owe it to Gays to fix them. Since Gayness is now deemed to be genetic, science can now provide Gene therapy to suppress Gayness the lower Xq28 stretch of the human chromosome ... so you don't have to be Gay. WHY would you want to be Gay, or wish anyone else to have your affliction? We can fix babies in utero so they don't have to be born Gay. We can Abort Gay fetuses now that we can identify Gay genes. Indeed: Applied Science CAN bring us closer to God. Isn't that reassuring there's a cure out there for you Gay people? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18860801 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church So, if a 'born male' makes the decision, after years of mental suffering, to go through the painful but life changing procedure to become female and happy, this is 'pretend'? According to highly self righteous pretend christians it is. It would seem so. Unfortunately the highly self righteous pretend christian seems to not want, or is unable, to answer... |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 07/08/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: JayneyC You fucking hypocrites! Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? . A Gay transsexual ... lecturing Christians about morality. LOL, now that's funny. . No What is funny is you cherry picking quotes to meet with your bigotry.. Love God? Love people.. If you do not get that then enjoy hell baby... Coz you will be there a long time.. Thats biblical btw.. . I'm not Christian, and don't need a lecture or limp attempt at a guilt trip, so piss off. . |
JayneyC User ID: 19375253 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church You fucking hypocrites! Quoting: JayneyC The Bible also says that adultery is a sin.. How many fuckers in church have done THAT?? Yeshua said;" To look at a woman with lust is committing adultery in your heart" And to hate your brother, is to "commit murder in you heart".. Those two points make the WHOLE human race murderous adulterers! We are here to LOVE... NOT to judge.. God is judge.. And it is God who changes people NOT the church.. All you self righteous wankers do is condemn... NO_ONE was saved through condemnation, but by love.. The love of God.. Anyone without the attitude of love does not know God and will go to hell.. Walking in the Spirit is to walk in love.. Jesus said "You will be known by your love"... So what are YOU known by then?? You need to go to the cross!! And I say that with love.. Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? YOU ARE RIGHT...JESUS SAID EVERYONE COME...jewish, GENTILE ALL ARE WELCOME... WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE THAT SAY..I LOVE JESUS AND I WANT TO KEEP SINNING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP THE SIN, I HAVE JESUS.... No... I said GOD changes people NOT the church.. You want to lord it over your own brothers and sisters and condemn them to a eternity of hell because of your bigotry... God also hates those who do not keep the Sabbath, commits adultery even with their eyes.. If you REALLY have God's Holy Spirit then He changes you.. No help from the church needed.. THAT help is just condemnation anyway.. No love there The church today are Matthew 23 all over again.. Who are whitewashed tombs full of dead mens bones.. Who cannot escape the condemnation of hell.. Read it.. And see what God thinks of religious assholes |
JayneyC User ID: 19375253 United Kingdom 07/08/2012 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: JayneyC You fucking hypocrites! Transsexuals have been with us forever.. They have the toughest of lives.. If they come to God who are YOU to stop them??? . A Gay transsexual ... lecturing Christians about morality. LOL, now that's funny. . No What is funny is you cherry picking quotes to meet with your bigotry.. Love God? Love people.. If you do not get that then enjoy hell baby... Coz you will be there a long time.. Thats biblical btw.. . I'm not Christian, and don't need a lecture or limp attempt at a guilt trip, so piss off. . Im still gonna pray for you blud.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17364186 United States 07/08/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church INDIANAPOLIS - The Episcopal Church's House of Bishops on Saturday approved a proposal that, if it survives a final vote, would give transgender men and women the right to become ministers in the church. Quoting: christian The House of Bishops voted at the church's General Convention to include "gender identity and expression" in its "non-discrimination canons," [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] Scenario: How would you handle this situation Christian? A Transgender person begins to attend your church regularly. Heck, she even sits next to you and belts out "When We All Get to Heaven" in the most beautiful soprano voice. She has had surgery, so she is beyond going back to being a man again. She is married and has even adopted children who are gifted, honor roll students. Perhaps even to look at her, you would never know her secret. She blends into society seamlessly......, but somehow you know. What do you do? |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 07/08/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church INDIANAPOLIS - The Episcopal Church's House of Bishops on Saturday approved a proposal that, if it survives a final vote, would give transgender men and women the right to become ministers in the church. Quoting: christian The House of Bishops voted at the church's General Convention to include "gender identity and expression" in its "non-discrimination canons," [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] Scenario: How would you handle this situation Christian? A Transgender person begins to attend your church regularly. Heck, she even sits next to you and belts out "When We All Get to Heaven" in the most beautiful soprano voice. She has had surgery, so she is beyond going back to being a man again. She is married and has even adopted children who are gifted, honor roll students. Perhaps even to look at her, you would never know her secret. She blends into society seamlessly......, but somehow you know. What do you do? Sing tenor to her soprano :) We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 07/08/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev A Gay transsexual ... lecturing Christians about morality. LOL, now that's funny. . No What is funny is you cherry picking quotes to meet with your bigotry.. Love God? Love people.. If you do not get that then enjoy hell baby... Coz you will be there a long time.. Thats biblical btw.. . I'm not Christian, and don't need a lecture or limp attempt at a guilt trip, so piss off. . Im still gonna pray for you blud.. . Power of objection magic of deflection bounce, return, refuse and repel I banish ye back to the pits of hell . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17364186 United States 07/08/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church INDIANAPOLIS - The Episcopal Church's House of Bishops on Saturday approved a proposal that, if it survives a final vote, would give transgender men and women the right to become ministers in the church. Quoting: christian The House of Bishops voted at the church's General Convention to include "gender identity and expression" in its "non-discrimination canons," [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] Scenario: How would you handle this situation Christian? A Transgender person begins to attend your church regularly. Heck, she even sits next to you and belts out "When We All Get to Heaven" in the most beautiful soprano voice. She has had surgery, so she is beyond going back to being a man again. She is married and has even adopted children who are gifted, honor roll students. Perhaps even to look at her, you would never know her secret. She blends into society seamlessly......, but somehow you know. What do you do? Sing tenor to her soprano :) and my faith in humanity grows just a little! Lol |
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Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 07/08/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church . Quoting: Allie Grey Scenario: How would you handle this situation Christian? A Transgender person begins to attend your church regularly. Heck, she even sits next to you and belts out "When We All Get to Heaven" in the most beautiful soprano voice. She has had surgery, so she is beyond going back to being a man again. She is married and has even adopted children who are gifted, honor roll students. Perhaps even to look at her, you would never know her secret. She blends into society seamlessly......, but somehow you know. What do you do? . He/she lives in sin, lives a lie. She has infiltrated the hetero world and thus is not worthy of trust. The only thing that separates her from the likes of Gay-pedo Jerry Sandusky is the actual act of corrupting the youth. . Last Edited by Borat Sagdiyev on 07/08/2012 09:19 PM |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 07/08/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church INDIANAPOLIS - The Episcopal Church's House of Bishops on Saturday approved a proposal that, if it survives a final vote, would give transgender men and women the right to become ministers in the church. Quoting: christian The House of Bishops voted at the church's General Convention to include "gender identity and expression" in its "non-discrimination canons," [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] Scenario: How would you handle this situation Christian? A Transgender person begins to attend your church regularly. Heck, she even sits next to you and belts out "When We All Get to Heaven" in the most beautiful soprano voice. She has had surgery, so she is beyond going back to being a man again. She is married and has even adopted children who are gifted, honor roll students. Perhaps even to look at her, you would never know her secret. She blends into society seamlessly......, but somehow you know. What do you do? Sing tenor to her soprano :) and my faith in humanity grows just a little! Lol I had a non-church situation that this reminds me of. There was a transgendered woman who worked for a company I did consulting for. She was pointed out to me as "the freak." It's hard for me imagine how it feels to be in an environment like that. Anyway, I started looking for ways to communicate one, simple thought: "You matter to me." But I believed that she mattered to God, so how could she not matter to me? Yep, I'd sing tenor. :) We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9117667 United States 07/08/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church Since when does the Church take it's Marching Orders from FALLEN MAN????????????? The episcopal church was broken off the catholic church by King Henry to allow him to divorce, so from then on it has been under control of the english royal family, so it is hardly any surprise. I don't agree with it, and wonder when they will start blessing all the other sins? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19361400 United States 07/08/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Episcopalians move closer to allowing transgender ministers....Satan has devoured the Episcopal Church the church: buildings where anyone who cares to attends, interacts, socializes, signs up. etc. etc. etc. They have declared themselves christians. The Church: those who are born of the Spirit of God......given their lives to Christ.....and are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. They are recognized by God as His children. They are part of the Body of Christ. This Church is currently invisible to most humans.... with God's children scattered about here and there. They will be brought together when Christ returns. God will at that time separate the sheep from the wolves. |