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Break Your Cell Phone!

 
Flat (OP)

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07/10/2012 07:45 PM
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I have never owned a cell phone in my life and never will.

When I tell young children (not my own) this, they stare at me wide-eyed like there's something wrong with me.

Society in America is fucked. The vast majority of the next few generations of children are going to be completely unable to think for themselves, utterly devoid of empathy, and literally tethered to technology in order to feel as though they have a purpose in their lives. Completely, utterly fucked...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1561325


I've actually gone on a couple dates with girls who gawk when I say I don't have one. They really thought I was insane.

Today it seems to be almost "creepy" if you don't have one. That is, something must obviously be wrong with you if you want to be where you are physically and not constantly "connected". yeahsure
finley

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07/10/2012 10:35 PM

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Yeah it's crazy. People act like they feel sorry for me. I feel sorry for their ignorance.
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07/10/2012 10:48 PM
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im an old grump and Im starting to get texts from friends,

texting is for dipshits, guess I may be throwing this phone off the bridge soon.

and then I guess Ill be living under it once Im a pariah.

F-it.
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A well written article about the history and evolution of cell phones with some nice graphics.
[link to electronics.howstuffworks.com]

This one was real simple and short. From the site: "The cellular phones work as the transmitters which these cell sites pick up. If we want to make a call we dial the persons number and press send, which is actually what really happens. The cell phone sends the number to the cell site to its base station for it to connect to the intended party."
[link to www.easy-cellphone.com]

Commercial history from Wikipedia:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I think it's important to realize there are a whole bunch of cell phone towers.

Wonderful Propaganda!

[link to www.youtube.com]

The video says telecommunication industry is the second richest industry in the world. Second to oil companies. I can't find much to back that up, but I didn't look too hard. Either way, there's some great points.

Specifically, cell towers are popping up everywhere. Here's a website making money out of it:
[link to www.steelintheair.com]

From some random news site. Well written "news" blurb:
[link to www.chron.com]
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 12:29 AM
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The Center for Safer Wireless claims "Peer-reviewed scientific studies have identified adverse effects on populations living near cell phone towers. General symptoms include headaches, fatigue, concentration problems, dizziness, insomnia, depression, appetite loss, skin rashes, and discomfort."
[link to www.centerforsaferwireless.org]

They back up the claim with this convincing information:
[link to www.centerforsaferwireless.org]
and actually posts the study here:
[link to www.centerforsaferwireless.org]

The same site also has a human interest story

link: [link to www.youtube.com] (read the comments!)

"Current FCC regulations controlling human exposure to radio frequency radiation, emitted by every communication antenna, are based on research conducted before 1986."
[link to whyfry.org]

From The FCC's own web site: "In 1996, the FCC adopted updated guidelines for evaluating human exposure to RF fields from fixed transmitting antennas such as those used for cellular and PCS cell sites. The FCC’s guidelines are identical to those recommended by the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements (NCRP), a non-profit corporation chartered by Congress to develop information and recommendations concerning radiation protection. The FCC’s guidelines also resemble the 1992 guidelines recommended by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), a non-profit technical and professional engineering society, and endorsed by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), a nonprofit, privately-funded membership organization that coordinates development of voluntary national standards in the United States." emphasis added.
[link to www.fcc.gov]

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finley

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07/11/2012 12:38 AM

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Thanks for posting that OP. Many people arn't aware of the electric magnetic doom or just don't care.

If you think about it though we are electro-magnetic beings so it would have an effect.
Flat (OP)

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Thanks for posting that OP. Many people arn't aware of the electric magnetic doom or just don't care.

If you think about it though we are electro-magnetic beings so it would have an effect.
 Quoting: finley


I just wonder about the addiction.

It's so damn powerful. It changes you almost as much as smoking a tobacco pipe.

"If you hire a pipe smoker, you hire a one armed man."
-Old Adage.
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 01:56 AM
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im an old grump and Im starting to get texts from friends,

texting is for dipshits, guess I may be throwing this phone off the bridge soon.

and then I guess Ill be living under it once Im a pariah.

F-it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19521204


Do you still have your phone? You can get plans without texting if you don't like it. Why do you persist to do what makes you upset?
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 11:01 AM
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From the FCC: "On May 31, 2011, the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified radiofrequency fields as “possibly carcinogenic to humans.” The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reports that this classification means that “there is limited evidence showing carcinogenicity in humans and less than sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals.” The National Cancer Institute suggests that the IARC classification fits with the handful of positive reports but overall inconsistent data concerning human carcinogenicity."


Please remember the jury is still out on this issue, and that it took more than 40 years to prove cigarettes caused cancer.
"Since there is a time lag of approximately 20 to 30 years between the onset of smoking and the development of lung cancer, the damage done was not immediately apparent. Doctors were surprised to see a sudden epidemic of lung cancer cases in the 1930s."
[link to smokinglungs.com]


Anti-Smoking campaigns rally on the health issues.

If cell phones do in fact cause an increase of cancer, will we see a similar movement take root?

Has anyone here quit smoking and own a cell phone? Which do you feel is harder to give up?
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 11:36 AM
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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07/11/2012 11:58 AM
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[link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
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07/11/2012 12:21 PM
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But I do agree with the person who said that being instantly accessible isn't good. It's terrible.
 Quoting: Double O Zero

ditto.

Can anybody tell me if using headphones, mine paticularly are USB headphones (don't really like them), but can they have the same harmful effects on the brain and tissue? Anybody?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18318642

usb isn't wireless. so, 't gives much less electromagnetic radiation (it is shielded by the cable).


i have a cellphone for convenience, i only turn it on when i need it myself. when i'm at home and expect a call (i have no landline), i turn it on and put it in another room...

the woods in my area used to have no cellphone-reception, but sadly that has changed. towers have cropped up all around it...
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 12:34 PM
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i have a cellphone for convenience, i only turn it on when i need it myself. when i'm at home and expect a call (i have no landline), i turn it on and put it in another room...

the woods in my area used to have no cellphone-reception, but sadly that has changed. towers have cropped up all around it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15782258



[link to www.youtube.com]

The company mentioned in the video's Larson Camouflage's site [link to www.utilitycamo.com]
Anonymous Coward
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07/11/2012 12:44 PM
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So!

Why do you keep it around? Is the convenience and your creature comforts so dear? Can any of you cell phone users give it up? Have any of you already used a phone for years and given it up?
 Quoting: Flat


Yep it's been in my purse dead for over a year. If it isn't working, seems people call the other phone more. No contract, it was a pay as you anyway.

Saved $740 a year with the pay as you go. Gave it up and save another $100.

Goodbye and good riddens. Verizon and AT&T owners can go sweat for their money like the rest of us. I don't need to live up to the connected phones of so called normal society.

Ring the doorbell if you want to talk to me.

Getting connected leaves society disconnected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12339688


Brilliant reply , I too would have a dead phone but I have a son at primary school and carry one just in case he is unwell and the school need to contact me.....I rarely have credit , I dont text...anyone who needs me either rings me on the house phone or come to the house.....
Flat (OP)

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I too would have a dead phone but I have a son at primary school and carry one just in case he is unwell and the school need to contact me.....I rarely have credit , I dont text...anyone who needs me either rings me on the house phone or come to the house.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17032261


How far away is primary school? IF they do use your cell to contact you in an emergency, what's your next move?
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 01:13 PM
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Can anyone testify about how a cell phone allowed them to be saved or save some one?

Is the chance of that happening actually likely?
smokahontas

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07/11/2012 01:16 PM

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So!

Why do you keep it around? Is the convenience and your creature comforts so dear? Can any of you cell phone users give it up? Have any of you already used a phone for years and given it up?
 Quoting: Flat


I am a self employed contractor, Have to have one. Totally SUCKS
"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire

"Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
Vision Thing

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07/11/2012 01:19 PM

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Lots of good information and links in this thread, thanks OP.
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 01:20 PM
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From the FCC's own website "The FCC is required by the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969..."
[link to transition.fcc.gov]

Further on that same site "On May 31, 2011, the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified radiofrequency fields as “possibly carcinogenic to humans.” The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reports that this classification means that “there is limited evidence showing carcinogenicity in humans and less than sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals.” The National Cancer Institute suggests that the IARC classification fits with the handful of positive reports but overall inconsistent data concerning human carcinogenicity."
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 01:22 PM
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I am a self employed contractor, Have to have one. Totally SUCKS
 Quoting: smokahontas


Do you use it at home?
Anonymous Coward
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07/11/2012 01:35 PM
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By the grace of God I am monetarily poor and do not have the funds to upkeep a cell phone account. Added to this we live in an area that does not have reception, a rare and exclusive privilege in the modern era.

My landline was cut off by the provider five years ago for unpaid bills and the only comms I have is this PC (running on mobile broadband through high gain antenna).

However to supplement the lack of radio frequency absorbtion I have circumvented the interlocks and stick my head in the microwave oven once a day while singing ¨In your head...zombie¨. My hair fell out and I have totally lost my libido, nonetheless it gives me that ´connected´ feeling.
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07/11/2012 01:38 PM
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If they want to spy our ass then you have to shuffle your phone there.
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 01:47 PM
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If they want to spy our ass then you have to shuffle your phone there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18856234


Shuffle?
finley

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By the grace of God I am monetarily poor and do not have the funds to upkeep a cell phone account. Added to this we live in an area that does not have reception, a rare and exclusive privilege in the modern era.

My landline was cut off by the provider five years ago for unpaid bills and the only comms I have is this PC (running on mobile broadband through high gain antenna).

However to supplement the lack of radio frequency absorbtion I have circumvented the interlocks and stick my head in the microwave oven once a day while singing ¨In your head...zombie¨. My hair fell out and I have totally lost my libido, nonetheless it gives me that ´connected´ feeling.
 Quoting: fortytwo


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So!

Why do you keep it around? Is the convenience and your creature comforts so dear? Can any of you cell phone users give it up? Have any of you already used a phone for years and given it up?
 Quoting: Flat


I don't have a cell phone anymore. I don't watch TV anymore either. We live in a scientific and technological inspired "panopticon". Information surveillance technologies are being used to eliminate all rights to privacy, both physically and mentally. This is being done to cause an automatic functioning of power, i.e., control over every facet of human existence. The surveillance "systems" are designed to permanently, and silently, effect the individuals under its control. The actual or literal use of power to get people to do something, like not run a red light for instance, is not neccessary. The "machines" manipulate and control the people, independent of the " grand architect" who inspired its creation. The users of the "systems" are the prisoners, the "imates" of the "systems" they are creating!
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07/11/2012 02:07 PM
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Lots of good information and links in this thread, thanks OP.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Thank you!

Awareness on this issue is rising. Look! They even made a hip-hop song about it! yeahsure


[link to www.youtube.com]

The information in the video is amazing and actually really well said. They post full lyrics and their sources in the YouTube comments. I'll dig into those here soon.
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07/11/2012 02:13 PM
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New Age Bullshit!
Flat (OP)

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07/11/2012 02:46 PM
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New Age Bullshit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19537021


Just for you.

DOOOOM video about electromagnetic radiation in our lives:

[link to www.youtube.com]
Doom at 1:32! Some good thinking points after.
Mission Invisible

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07/11/2012 02:55 PM
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cell phones are frying our brain cells one by one...

[link to www.hardwareinsight.com]


Check out some of the thermographic images of your face after exposure...


Our DNA emits light in the form of biophotons. All kinds of microscopic light transfers take place in our cells, and cell phone radiation is completely unnatural and causes all kinds of fragments/miscommunication among cells.


[link to govtslaves.info]

This website also provides some good information!
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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cell phones are frying our brain cells one by one...

[link to www.hardwareinsight.com]


Check out some of the thermographic images of your face after exposure...


Our DNA emits light in the form of biophotons. All kinds of microscopic light transfers take place in our cells, and cell phone radiation is completely unnatural and causes all kinds of fragments/miscommunication among cells.


[link to govtslaves.info]

This website also provides some good information!
 Quoting: Mission Invisible


Amazing links. Thanks so much.


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...do you own one?

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