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Krime
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damn quote is fucken up again.
hopefully you can decipher your posts from mine in that?
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Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
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im on the fence really with that, when Jesus states so many times in the bible that He is not God, and to worship only the Father.

buuut what i was trying to say, is if God were Christ, and Christ is the reason for Christians, then God is Christianity itself.
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The christian church and its many versions while good in many respects still maintains many of the negative aspects of all established churches in that it demands a loyalty to dogma to rules and regulations that have little to do with the reality of the kingdom as Jesus taught it. Jesus taught that the kingdom is within us right now and that we enter its gates by faith. The idea of making a church that packages the truth for its followers is directly opposed to the actual teachings of Jesus.
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i said God created Christianity, or more so, God is Christianity.
however i have not stated all of Christianity is of God lol.
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damn quote is fucken up again.
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 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
 Quoting: Dumah



It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


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damn quote is fucken up again.
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 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
 Quoting: Dumah



It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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damn quote is fucken up again.
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 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
 Quoting: Dumah



It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
 Quoting: Dumah




Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


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Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
 Quoting: Dumah



It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
 Quoting: Dumah




Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


"Christ in you the hope of glory, whom we preach warning every man"

Of course Jesus Christ is God..... God is Spirit and Christ lives in us as Christians! You put 1 + 1 together and you have The Father and The Son!
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Christ was God in the flesh thats why I said God was not a christian.
 Quoting: Dumah



It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
 Quoting: Dumah




Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


You have to read all together. As I interpret it he's saying how he came to give life. He is God and God is him.

John 10:10-30

10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

19 Therefore there was a division again among the jewish people because of these sayings. 20 And many of them said, “He has a demon and is mad. Why do you listen to Him?”

21 Others said, “These are not the words of one who has a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

The Shepherd Knows His Sheep

22 Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon’s porch. 24 Then the jewish people surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.[a] 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

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It seems that we have a terminology issue...

If Christ is God,

Is God Christ?


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
 Quoting: Dumah




Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


....He is God and God is him.


 Quoting: Dumah



Then we agree,

He is Christ and God is Christ.


( and by definition- Christians which you said you don't like)

:)
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God is a trinity the father,the son, and holy Spirit. The father is not the same person as the son, the son is not the same person as the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the same person as father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons but they are all the one God. Each has a will can speak can love etc. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus the Son, is one person with two natures divine and human. The holy spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware the third person of the trinity. I know not everyone believes in the trinity but I do so IMO this is correct.
 Quoting: Dumah




Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


....He is God and God is him.


 Quoting: Dumah



Then we agree,

He is Christ and God is Christ.


( and by definition- Christians which you said you don't like)

:)
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Not the same he is messiah and God is messiah
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Thank you for your response.

How do you reconcile ^ that^ with this:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 20109271


....He is God and God is him.


 Quoting: Dumah



Then we agree,

He is Christ and God is Christ.


( and by definition- Christians which you said you don't like)

:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4976175


Not the same he is messiah and God is messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



Christ was God in the flesh...
 Quoting: Dumah




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....He is God and God is him.


 Quoting: Dumah



Then we agree,

He is Christ and God is Christ.


( and by definition- Christians which you said you don't like)

:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4976175


Not the same he is messiah and God is messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



Christ was God in the flesh...
 Quoting: Dumah




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the word christ means messiah. christ is a title not a name.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Then we agree,

He is Christ and God is Christ.


( and by definition- Christians which you said you don't like)

:)
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Not the same he is messiah and God is messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



Christ was God in the flesh...
 Quoting: Dumah




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4976175


the word christ means messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



You are fun-

So we agree:

He is Christ(Messiah) and God is Christ ( Messiah)

By definition - Christian

You never answered - do you also dislike His disciples who were Christian?


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Not the same he is messiah and God is messiah
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Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



Christ was God in the flesh...
 Quoting: Dumah




?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4976175


the word christ means messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



You are fun-

So we agree:

He is Christ(Messiah) and God is Christ ( Messiah)

By definition - Christian

You never answered - do you also dislike His disciples who were Christian?


?
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It is false to teach that a person can be a christian and not be a disciple. I believe this to be one of the greatest failures of christian teaching. The title disciple meant one who was submitted to the teachings of the people who was disciplining them. Jesus taught the twelve men who he called to follow and serve him. To use the name christian also means to be a follower of christ which is a disciple but it defined the life the disciple lived. It was the world that gave disciples the name christians not Jesus.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



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the word christ means messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



You are fun-

So we agree:

He is Christ(Messiah) and God is Christ ( Messiah)

By definition - Christian

You never answered - do you also dislike His disciples who were Christian?


?


It is false to teach that a person can be a christian and not be a disciple. I believe this to be one of the greatest failures of christian teaching. The title disciple meant one w
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 16085424
ubmitted to the teachings of the people who was disciplining them. Jesus taught the twelve men who he called to follow and serve him. To use the name christian also means to be a follower of christ which is a disciple but it defined the life the disciple lived. It was the world that gave disciples the name christians not Jesus.


hey bro, is your Sig from EMINEM Haleys song?
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Seriously brother-

Can you at least try to be consistent?...



...




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the word christ means messiah
 Quoting: Dumah



You are fun-

So we agree:

He is Christ(Messiah) and God is Christ ( Messiah)

By definition - Christian

You never answered - do you also dislike His disciples who were Christian?


?


It is false to teach that a person can be a christian and not be a disciple. I believe this to be one of the greatest failures of christian teaching. The title disciple meant one w
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 16085424
ubmitted to the teachings of the people who was disciplining them. Jesus taught the twelve men who he called to follow and serve him

. To use the name christian also means to be a follower of christ which is a disciple ...



You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are his 'disciples'?




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To Mr Dumah

You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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I dislike people that claim to be a disciples of christ and their actions are completely the opposite of what a disciples actions would be.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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To Mr Dumah

You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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I dislike people that claim to be a disciples of christ and their actions are completely the opposite of what a disciples actions would be.
 Quoting: Dumah



Such as starting a hate thread stating that you dont like Christians?...

At least you seem to love your neighbor as you love yourself (and Ghandi)




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To Mr Dumah

You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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I dislike people that claim to be a disciples of christ and their actions are completely the opposite of what a disciples actions would be.
 Quoting: Dumah



Such as starting a hate thread stating that you dont like Christians?...

At least you seem to love your neighbor as you love yourself (and Ghandi)




?
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dislike is not hate
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
-Revelation 21:4
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To Mr Dumah

You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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I dislike people that claim to be a disciples of christ and their actions are completely the opposite of what a disciples actions would be.
 Quoting: Dumah



Such as starting a hate thread stating that you dont like Christians?...

At least you seem to love your neighbor as you love yourself (and Ghandi)




?
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If you can hate the sin but not the sinner I can hate the beliefs but not the believer.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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To Mr Dumah

You still have not answered.

Why do you dislike those of us who are His 'disciples'?








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I dislike people that claim to be a disciples of christ and their actions are completely the opposite of what a disciples actions would be.
 Quoting: Dumah



Such as starting a hate thread stating that you dont like Christians?...

At least you seem to love your neighbor as you love yourself (and Ghandi)




?
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I can hate the beliefs but not the believer.
 Quoting: Dumah



Progress!

Do you like J.ews and Muslims too?



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The means to extortion is always the same: disingenuous words. It is the stuff of politics and religion, where contrived perceptions become a fabricated reality... And make no mistake, this march of evil isn't uniquely a byproduct of the capitalistic establishment, the enlightened elite, the patrons of politics, nor the religious; it is the sum of all of them. Collectively they are the Whore of Babylon.
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They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)


Proving Yahowah right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahowah's personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan's moniker as "Ba'al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior.
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actually "shem" means rocket ship - haven't you read Sitchin?
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They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)


Proving Yahowah right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahowah's personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan's moniker as "Ba'al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior.
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actually "shem" means rocket ship - haven't you read Sitchin?
 Quoting: Anubis


can't say that I have... I tend to avoid wanna-be science fiction writers when I study Scripture.
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The means to extortion is always the same: disingenuous words. It is the stuff of politics and religion, where contrived perceptions become a fabricated reality... And make no mistake, this march of evil isn't uniquely a byproduct of the capitalistic establishment, the enlightened elite, the patrons of politics, nor the religious; it is the sum of all of them. Collectively they are the Whore of Babylon.
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At least we agree on the demographics of the poor girl...


18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. ( rev 17)



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They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)


Proving Yahowah right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahowah's personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan's moniker as "Ba'al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior.
 Quoting: eh steve



actually "shem" means rocket ship - haven't you read Sitchin?
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can't say that I have... I tend to avoid wanna-be science fiction writers when I study Scripture.
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steve. is ALL of scripture infallable? or only part of it? where and how do you draw the line? i think we touched on this earlier but if you don't mind refreshing my memory, that would be great.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)


Proving Yahowah right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahowah's personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan's moniker as "Ba'al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior.
 Quoting: eh steve



actually "shem" means rocket ship - haven't you read Sitchin?
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can't say that I have... I tend to avoid wanna-be science fiction writers when I study Scripture.
 Quoting: eh steve


steve. is ALL of scripture infallable? or only part of it? where and how do you draw the line? i think we touched on this earlier but if you don't mind refreshing my memory, that would be great.
 Quoting: Shamar

actually looking at your quote. you are saying the same thing i am sayng. sort of . you are just more limited.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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no one has addressed the issue that SHEM means ROCKET SHIP

Discuss.
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no one has addressed the issue that SHEM means ROCKET SHIP

Discuss.
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ill discuss how id like to know where you got that load from?

not even closely described as such in Strongs.
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no one has addressed the issue that SHEM means ROCKET SHIP

Discuss.
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ill discuss how id like to know where you got that load from?

not even closely described as such in Strongs.
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Apparently it came from Sitchin.



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no one has addressed the issue that SHEM means ROCKET SHIP

Discuss.
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ill discuss how id like to know where you got that load from?

not even closely described as such in Strongs.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079



Apparently it came from Sitchin.



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 16305348



The Old Testament is dedicated to Yahweh. It is very male orientated because the Anunnaki were extremely upset with Mother Goddess worship and wanted to eliminate any mention of Her. The Old Testament acknowledges the presence of many Anunnaki "gods" on Earth in early times. The Genesis story is about the spread of humankind through generations following Adam and Eve and the story of the "divine’s" disenchantment with humankind that preceded the deluge.

In the Sumerian texts there was mention of the people of the Shem (meaning spaceship). The Anunnaki were the people of the Shem, and they came down to Earth and copulated with primitive earthlings. This is recorded in the Genesis story.

The Anunnaki Elite also started a new, highly advanced culture in Babylon. As always, they destroy cultures and murder the populations whenever they get out of hand, then they re-start elsewhere.

Today the Anunnaki Remnants are planning to re-establish the "majesty" of bygone days when the Anunnaki Elite had a complete tyranny over the Earth. They plan to re-start the world again. The Anunnaki Remnants, with the help of humans as well as the incarnated Anunnaki in human bodies, have built massive underground bunkers and railway lines that are a part of their structure for allowing them and their cadre of attendants to survive the catastrophes that they believe the fugitive Anunnaki Elite are planning for the Earth. They cannot leave the planet in spacecrafts because they were left with limited resources after the Anunnaki Elite escaped with all of the technologically advanced spacecrafts.

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

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