Christians...

"gospel" "incantations" "witchcraft"...??? Dude... you're an idiot, and after this reply I will most likely be ignoring your moranic ass.

Oops .

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

“God (‘elohym), moreover (‘owd – besides this and in addition), said(‘amar – declared) to (‘el) Moseh, ‘You shall say (‘amar) this (koh) to (‘el) the Children of Yisra’el (yisra’el – individuals who strive and struggle with, those who persist and endure with, those who persevere with and are empowered by God), “Yahowah [(His name is here, YHWH, in the Hebrew text, GLP does not support the font)], God (‘elohym) of your fathers (‘ab), God of ‘Abraham, God of Yitzchaq, and God of Ya’aqob, sent (salah) me (‘any) to (‘el) you(‘atem).” This (zeh) is My (‘any) personal and proper name (shem) forever (la ‘olam – for all time and into eternity). This (zeh) is My (‘any) way of being known and remembered (zeker – My way of being mentioned and recalled, My commemoration and memorial, the inheritance right, symbol, sign, and signature) in all dwelling places, homes (dowr) times, and generations (dowr).’”(Shemowth / Exodus 3:15)

A son highly values, esteems, and respects his father , and a servant his master , so if I am a father , where is My honor and esteem ? And if a lord , were is My respect ?’ says Yahowah of the spiritual regiment , to you O clerics who despise My name ." (Mal’aky / Malachi 1:6)

You’ll notice that this is a hypothetical. Yahowah isn’t calling Himself their "father" or their "lord." But Yahowah knew that the Yisra’elites would continue to refer to Him using these terms, as opposed to calling Him by His name. In so doing, they were demonstrating their disrespect for Yahowah . Men or Him because folks you cannot choose both .

So then this commandment (miswah) is to you, O clerics. If you do not listen, and if you do not place it on your heart to give credit to My name (shem), says Yahowah of the spiritual regiment, I will send out in and among you all a curse. I will curse with your kneeling down, and also I will bring a curse on her [Yisra’el], because you all did not place it on your heart." (Mal’aky / Malachi 2:1-2)

The irony is delicious. The curse of religion is the signature mark of all religions. Since none give any thought to Yahowah's name we can expect that all are cursed.

God needs to just say, "Okay everybody in Time Out".

Discussing religion is like asking to be persecuted, no one can agree or respect anyone else's beliefs.

An example of how real life believers act.

"I'm right."

"No, I'm right, you are a retard."

"Wrong, I'm going to Heaven and your going to hell."

"Jesus loves me more than you."

God says:

"Now kids, that's enough, everyone in time out."

Poof! 3 days of darkness? LOL Oh Please Lord let it happen. LOL

Seven thousand times we find "YHWH/Yahowah" (6,868 in the Masoretic + 132 removed by the Masoretes but found in the Dead Sea Scrolls), pronounced, Yahowah.

Dont believe me... look in the preface of your "bible", most will clearly state that in most places "YHWH" was found in the text... "LORD" was substituted and put in the place of HIS NAME.

lord is NOT His name... in fact He despises that title.

‎"And then (wa) Yahowah (YHWH) will exist (hayah) as king (melek - the one who reigns, from malak, meaning the counselor and adviser) over (‘al) the whole (kol) world (‘erets - earth and land). On that day (ba ha yowm) He shall be (hayah - exist as) Yahowah (YHWH)-His one (‘echad - first and exclusive) and (wa) only (‘echad - unique and exclusive) personal and proper name (shem)." (ZakarYah / Zechariah 14:9)

Don’t let me say (‘ama) ‘Who (miy) is Yahowah (YaHoWaH)?’ lest I be disinherited (yarash), caught in the act, arrested, and incarcerated for (taphas) removing without permission and carrying away by stealth (ganab) the personal and proper name (shem) of my God (‘elohiym)." (Proverbs 30:9)

‎"Political and religious rulers (masal - those who exercise governmental and clerical power and authority) have become deluded fools (ya’al - have willingly acquiesced to becoming wicked, ignorantly, irrationally, and immorally engaged in a fool’s folly), prophetically declares Yahowah (YaHoWaH), continually every and all day that My name is to be despised, rejected, and treated with contempt " (Yasha’yahw/Isaiah 52:5)

‎"Those who rule over them are deluded, says Yahowah, and every day without ceasing they despise, spurn, and reject My name.So therefore, My family shall know My name." (Yasha’yahw/Isaiah 52:6)

‎"Children from foreign nations who form a relationship with Yahowah, serving Him and loving Yahowah’s personal and proper name , who carefully observe and revere the Sabbath and do not treat it with contempt , those who are passionate about and are empowered by My Familial Covenant Relationship , these I will bring to My set-apart mountain , rejoicing in My home and tabernacle of prayer . Their offerings will rise up and be accepted, because My household shall be called a house of intercession for all people" (Yashayahw / Isaiah 56:6-7)

Hey there Jeenyus- My rl name is Tanja but pronounced "Tahn-yuh" so guess what? Jesus is a transliteration. Ffs anyone who knows a lick about Hebrew, Yiddish, and German would know this. If you want to get your panties in a bunch and speak Hebrew, have at it. My Lord answers me, regardless.

^ idiot.

Since Yahowah says that those who spurn His Name are deluded fools and that that those who Love His personal and proper Name are Family who do you believe ? His words or the words of a deluded fool ?

They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al/ - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)

Proving Yahowah right, the translators of every popular English Bible carelessly and inaccurately replaced Yahowah's personal name with "LORD" and yet carefully and accurately transliterated Satan's moniker as "Ba'al." These clerics, scholars, and pastors demonstrate a greater respect for the Adversary than they do for the Creator and Savior.

God said: “And (wa) it shall be (hayah) in (ba) that specific (ha huw’) day (yowm), prophetically declares (na’um) Yahowah (YaHoWaH), you shall encounter and welcome (qara’) Me as an individual (‘yshy); and (wa) you will not call Me (lo’ qara’) ‘My Lord’ (ba’aly) ever again (ly ‘owd). For I will remove (wa suwr), accordingly (‘eth) the Lords’ (ha Ba’alym) names (shem) out of (min) her mouth (peh), and (wa) they shall not be remembered, recalled, or mentioned (lo’ zakar) by (ba) their name (shem) ever again (‘owd).” (Howsha’ 2:16-17)

And yet the King James Version published: “And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, [that] thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali. For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.”

The KJV bible and all English based books named after a sun goddess are little more than a translation of Jerome's Vulgat written back and forth 5 times over.

Him, which is weird cuz He answeres mevwhen i call Him Jesus.
which is also weird cuz Yahuwah isnt His name either, its a hebrew/Greek/English transliteration of the original Hebrew eritting that look nothing like todays English letters, let alone the Vowels you think its ok to put in there. lol.

first, are you going to keep copy/pasting this same thing?
second, why do you insist on saying Advisary, isnt Satan a Hebrew word?
and ladt but not least, do you know how quite hard it is to read what your trying to say, when you define every fucking word you write?

Most people really are clueless when it comes to Yahowah's character because they only have access to the words that are controlled by the "religious" copy editors.
This means that all the words they see are coming from the same polluted well of familiarity.
Should you chose to share knowledge with those buying into "religious" books (bible) you will find that rather than being thankful... most will attack you and be in favor of what is familiar to them. This what leads to the Satanic concept that the creator is a "lord" or religious deity that has an interest is "worship" which is nonsense.
The Father Creator seeks by HIS Own Design...An Upright RELATIONSHIP with YOU!

you don't say!

lol... Shamar, you think I just proved your point. Hahaha!

No... That was referring to more modern "publishers" not His scribes who originally wrote down His Word.

Julie... You offended me. You judged and attacked me and "between the lines" pretty much said I am not in a Covenant Relationship with Yah and that I am in league with satan and the forces of death and destruction... pretty much sealing my fate as lost and damned. All because I will not submit to "your" conditions. Gee thanks... some friend you turned out to be.

I no longer have any respect for you.

I couldn't have said it better myself Steve. You have offended me at the core of my being and I no longer have respect for you. But I declare no person my enemy.


We all are continuing to learn and until our King is here to teach us all we will continue to fight amongst ourselves.

I never said your fate was damned nor lost, or in league with satan - you are putting words into my mouth, or you have seriously misunderstood what I was saying. Much like your *friends* on facebook, you are far more interested in defending your love of meat than to hear something that might upset your apple, er, meat cart. You yourself, rather have condemned me. Rather than asking to hear what I learned, and why I have come to where I am, you, instead bite back heavily, and accuse me of militant attitude, only about saving the animals. If you think that you are bearing the message of Messiah by your own venomous words, you should step back and take another look at yourself.

I do not claim to be righteous by any means. I do seek the truth though, as Messiah taught when He ministered on earth, and as was taught by AHYH at the very beginning.

And I seek His character, and my desire is to imitate, and be like Him. Imo, that does not include parading around touting how well I follow the 613, or even spouting my knowledge of *his name*, which by the way, you don't have correct.

You are free to ban me from your thread.

really?
because its my understanding that anchient Hebrews didnt find themselves worthy of using the name of God, so they in turn replaced it with Lord, and thats how that came to be.

WOW!
both you fucks get offended too easily!
both of you claim to follow the Messiah, yet you get aggitated and take offence to other peoples understanding of how Yah and Yahsuah work? (<--- for you guys lol)
what ever happened to "bless thine enemy" or such as that.
for those that say they have much knowledge in these things, you guys certainly arnt showing it in these 2 posts.

&#8206;"Surely the person who proclaims a message on behalf of a deity who oversteps their bounds to speak words in My name which I have not instructed nor directed him to speak , and who speaks in the name of other gods (‘elohym), indeed then that prophet shall die ." (Deuteronomy 18:20)

"...Charis-Charity/Gratia-Grace (charis – loving kindness and the gift of goodwill) [to] you (humeis) and (kai) peace (eirene – harmony and tranquility, freedom from worry) from (apo) God (&#920;&#933;), the Father (pater), and our (ego) Upright One(&#922;&#933;), [the] Ma'aseyah (&#935;&#929;&#933;) Yahowshah (&#921;&#919;&#933;)..." (Galatians 1:3)

In Paul's life time the Graces were well known and foreign pagan goddesses .

Charis is the name of the three Greek Graces, known as the Charities (Charites). The English word "charity" is a transliteration of their name. These pagan goddesses of charm, splendor, and beauty, were often depicted in mythology celebrating nature and rejoicing over fertility. Collectively they make four appearances in Homer’s Iliad and three in the Odyssey.

The Graces were associated with the underworld and with the Eleusinian Mysteries. Their naked form stands at the entrance of the Acropolis in Athens. Naked frescoes of the Charitesadorn homes in Pompeii, Italy which means that they transcended the Greek religion and influenced Rome where they became known as the Gratia. Their appeal, beyond their beauty, gaiety, and sensual form, is that they held mysteries known only to religious initiates. Francis Bacon, as the founder of the Rosicrucians, would have loved them.

"Do not bring to mind (zakar – remember or recall, mention or memorialize) the name of other (‘acher– or different) gods (‘elohym); neither let them be heard coming out of your mouth." (Exodus 23:13)
And yet the name of the Greek goddesses, Charis, is the operative term of Galatians—one which puts Paul in opposition to the very Law and God which condemns the use of their names. Simply stated: the "Gospel of Grace" is pagan. It is literally "Gott’s spell of Gratia.

well, how is your post ^^^ any different than ours? Do you have anything to help dispel our differences?

Speaking of the filthy religious term "Gospel" Paul says he is advancing the Gospels and never as much as quotes out of one of them. He spent most of his time talking about himself.

I am honestly not trying to be divisive, but i see a tremendous amount of quotes from him from the OT.

none accurate nor in context...

ask your friend Big Richard (Daniel) about "Paul".

i have no idea why you keep referring to big ritchie/richard/daniel about being my friend.....not a clue.

and along with that, can you explain why you can rip some pages from the bible, but not others? where and how do you draw the line as to what is truth and what is fabrication?

Last Edited by If You Only Knew on 07/14/2012 08:37 PM