BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3579277 United Kingdom 07/10/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. If there is a big X-flare from the big sunspot - will that incapacitate the electronics of the ships in the carrier task groups? What about the aircraft? The X-flare could take out some of the GPS satellites - so the pilots might have to draw a small map of the persian gulf in any notebooks they have available - to determine where they are? |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/10/2012 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Longbow Apache Pilots Learn To Land On Navy's USS New York Army Helicopter Squadron First To Train At Sea In The Persian Gulf The U.S. Army’s 3-159th "Quickstrike" Attack Reconnaissance Battalion met the USS New York in the Persian Gulf Friday bringing with them a lot of firsts. The battalion became the first to land an AH-64D Longbow Apache aboard the vessel when they partnered with the Navy crew to train the Army pilots how to land on the deck of a ship. “We’ve never had an Apache aboard this ship until today,” said Navy Capt. Jon Kreitz, commanding officer of the USS New York. “We take every chance we get to do something special and today is no different." [link to www.aero-news.net] |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/10/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Despite sanctions, Iran continues to pump oil at nearly pre-sanction levels: [link to money.cnn.com] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/10/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. [link to www.latimes.com] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/10/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. A senior Iranian Army commander says the country’s Ground Forces have launched a military drill codenamed Hazrat Qaem in the western part of the country. Deputy Commander of Operations in the Iranian Army's Ground Forces Brigadier General Gholamali Gholamalian said the main purpose of the war game, which began on Monday and will wrap up on Friday, is to improve combat preparedness, planning and field assessment of Iranian forces for any possible military attack. [link to www.presstv.ir] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9658935 United States 07/10/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) Yeah - I think the majority of viewers of this thread probably didn't catch the drift of that little deployment... |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/10/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. An American military analyst says in case of a possible military strike on Iran by Israel, Tehran will be able to rapidly rout the Israeli military which is already hit by a high rate of internal dissent. In an article published on the Press TV website, Gordon Duff, noted that in case of an attack, the Israeli army will be easily swept aside by the Iranians, because it has no capability of operating logistically and is already faced with a population that is asking for an end to compulsory military service. “Young Israelis say they are tired of hearing the continual fear mongering and no longer find any of the ‘threats’ the Likudist regime harps about credible,” he said. The analyst added that up to 50 percent of Israeli youth are refusing military service of which ‘ultra-orthodox’ jewish people are already exempt. [link to www.presstv.ir] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/10/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Iran food costs soar and unemployment spirals as nuclear sanctions begin to bite - Telegraph Iranians are abandoning traditional eating habits, being thrown out of work at alarming rates and face running short of medicines as the nation braces itself for fresh sanctions aimed at forcing its leaders to scrap their suspect nuclear programme. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
Erectus User ID: 14823865 United States 07/10/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Military systems have SOME protection from electromagnetic pulses. Sunspots, if very severe, might cause some issues, but I doubt it would be significant. However, there are an increasing number of fly by wire aircraft. I'd expect those planes would be in a world of trouble IF their systems were impacted, as opposed to a plane controlled by hydraulics via a stick. As for the evil sunburn....its range is short. The delivery system must come to within some 150 miles or so (I think the latest model might have about a 170 mile range). So, what will be the delivery system? will Iranian destroyers kick the shit out of the US then sail right up and fire their missiles? Or will the Iranian airforce blow squadrons of F18s out of the sky, then deliver their missiles? Or will Iranian submarines sneak up on the carriers even though you can be sure that US attack subs and destroyers are already tracking them? No. No, and no. You can be sure that the US navy will not be stupid and sail their carriers into the Hormuz straight if they are concerned about ground based missile attacks. They'll let the lesser ships do that and they'll let the planes be refuled by air. |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/10/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. When debating whether or not to undertake a unilateral strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, one key consideration for Israeli decision makers will be whether such a strike will force the Iranian people to “rally around the flag,” supporting their otherwise hated regime? This is essential because an Israeli strike on Iran, unlike an American-led strike, does not pose an imminent threat to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei or President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. They realize that such an attack will not endanger their personal safety. What keeps them up at night is their fear of sharing the fate of Mubarak, Ben Ali, Saleh, or Gaddafi. Today, Iran’s leadership has good reason to fear the renewal of mass protests, especially following the imposition of stiff international sanctions that are wreaking havoc on the economy, causing massive inflation and quickly strangling the government’s main source of revenue. As the population becomes more desperate, their willingness to challenge the regime again will grow. [link to www.jpost.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2229131 United States 07/10/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) Can anyone say...SUNBURN!!!! Your carriers are so fucking DOOMED..and there wont be a damn thing you can do about it.. NOTHING STOPS THE SUNBURN!!! Look it up. Iran was banging rocks and sticks togather twenty years ago the rockets they have now was developed in the US 20+ years ago... Stop building the Iran hype up.... If we did decide to attack we would use nothing but air strikes without ever setting boots on the ground... This will be over in a matter of weeks... Irans whole info structure would be demolished.. Are far as the US interests are if we do have to gc o to war we will bring everything we got... This will not get out of hand... Besides what other military in the world has the actual real life training like us..... No body we always keep our military batifield trained.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2816794 Australia 07/10/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, is telling his nation it must prepare for war & “the end of times” Quoting: DoorBert [link to frontporchpolitics.com] Preemptive programming. The Ayatollah knows Iran will be going to war in the next few years. They are threatened by Israel weekely and they have soon to be 4 US carriers off their coast. What better way to get his population ready than to fill them with religious mumbo-jumbo. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286423 United States 07/10/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) As much as I admire them they are a relic of the past and now a liability. If one does get hit, it will be a calculated move in order to accomplish some counter-attack which will be far worse. |
Double O Zero User ID: 10397260 United States 07/10/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Maybe he assumes it is an inevitability, and he's trying to paint it in the best terms. If so, a false flag attack seems damned likely. |
Copperhead User ID: 17170892 United States 07/10/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) As much as I admire them they are a relic of the past and now a liability. If one does get hit, it will be a calculated move in order to accomplish some counter-attack which will be far worse. Carriers are the battleships of the 21st century. Impressive but militarily obsolete for the next World War. They still work well for kicking the shit out of 3rd world Brown People who can't retaliate though. |
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Erectus User ID: 14823865 United States 07/10/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. I disagree about the day of the carrier being over. It may well be on the way out as a primary offensive weapon against technologically advanced enemies. That doesn't mean it has no value. It can still rule the blue water far from land by denying ship traffic of all types including naval. Given attack aircraft of greater range (which the US formerly had) it can more easily mitigate the threat of missile attack. Anytime the threat of missile attack can be mitigated the carrier rules the roost. So long as that threat can be mitigated atleast some of the time the carrier is still useful. The battleship went away because it carried guns, not because it could not survive. It was no longer offensively useful. The same cannot be said about the carrier. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16851439 United States 07/10/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. USS Stennis going right back to Mideast Quoting: DoorBert BREMERTON — Bremerton-based aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis is returning to the Middle East much sooner than expected. Read more: [link to www.kitsapsun.com] Three other Carriers currently on-station in the Mideast: USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - 5th Fleet USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) - 5th Fleet USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Mediterranean Sea [link to www.navy.mil] Actually it will only be two, Stennis replaces Enterprise, Eisenhower replaces Lincoln. Pretty routine. |
redzed User ID: 3724229 United Kingdom 07/10/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) Can anyone say...SUNBURN!!!! Your carriers are so fucking DOOMED..and there wont be a damn thing you can do about it.. NOTHING STOPS THE SUNBURN!!! Look it up. Iran was banging rocks and sticks togather twenty years ago the rockets they have now was developed in the US 20+ years ago... Stop building the Iran hype up.... If we did decide to attack we would use nothing but air strikes without ever setting boots on the ground... This will be over in a matter of weeks... Irans whole info structure would be demolished.. Are far as the US interests are if we do have to gc o to war we will bring everything we got... This will not get out of hand... Besides what other military in the world has the actual real life training like us..... No body we always keep our military batifield trained.... The UK has 10,000 troops in Afghanistan. Last Edited by Rolling Stone on 07/10/2012 07:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17232173 United States 07/10/2012 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Reza Kahlili, living in the shadows with a fake name and disguise, worked from inside the Revolutionary Guard. He warns of terrorist sleeper cells in the U.S. and a plot to destroy Israel. Quoting: DoorBert [link to www.latimes.com] Yup, I'm sure there are many. [link to www.cbsnews.com] Houston also = refineries and more The politicians never secured our country's borders properly, and Korans have been found mixed in with the illegals trash. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19512265 Austria 07/10/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) As much as I admire them they are a relic of the past and now a liability. If one does get hit, it will be a calculated move in order to accomplish some counter-attack which will be far worse. Carriers are the battleships of the 21st century. Impressive but militarily obsolete for the next World War. They still work well for kicking the shit out of 3rd world Brown People who can't retaliate though. the U.S is a brown People nation ruled by a black man YES! thats why they still hold on their carriers. ( obselte shit that even Kenya could sink ) while our White Knight Iran, is well prepared to stop the american Jew-Afro-Mustaso nation and its carriers =))))) |
IMAX User ID: 17875035 Canada 07/10/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Unexpected Deployment of 4th Carrier to Mideast! USS Stennis will be offshore Iran prior to Elections. Good target. Anyone would be happy, when him SS-N-19 hits this carrier ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8576657 US carriers now is vary large targets and no more. :)))) As much as I admire them they are a relic of the past and now a liability. If one does get hit, it will be a calculated move in order to accomplish some counter-attack which will be far worse. Carriers are the battleships of the 21st century. Impressive but militarily obsolete for the next World War. They still work well for kicking the shit out of 3rd world Brown People who can't retaliate though. the U.S is a brown People nation ruled by a black man YES! thats why they still hold on their carriers. ( obselte shit that even Kenya could sink ) while our White Knight Iran, is well prepared to stop the american Jew-Afro-Mustaso nation and its carriers =))))) Imagine if there was no country Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars |