The problems with the US school system (straight from a 17-year-old)...

+1 lol

You mad bro?

Again shitbag.

Brain dead.

And hey, just a tip if you haven't done so already, study Pythagorean theorem of music.

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You're being watched, so no.

Thanks for keeping the thread alive!

Thanks for the links! I've favorited them. I really want to devote my summer to music.

My conciousness expands worldwide, no government affiliates. What's wrong you scared bro?

OP, go ahead and fail out. The world needs more low wage workers, who lack degrees. The foreigners will continue to come here and dominate our own universities.

In truth - College is a substantial waste of money. The idea that you go there to learn trade skills is retarded. I wasted so much $ in college getting a piece of paper and I learned NOTHING applicable to my career path. In fact, I helped TA/Instruct 2/3 of my classes in exchange for a free "A". Background: I was a freelance computer hardware / game reviewer with my MCP / A+ before I even got out of High School (I'm 30) and I was on my way to complete my MCSE so I was more knowledgeable than 90% of my professors.

However, here is the other side to that equation that I've observed. That shitty piece of paper demonstrates your ability to be a "team player". Your ability to merge with the system (society) and learn from it. Your degree demonstrates that you can be given systematic instructions and apply them in a learning process. Even though you do not, YOUR EMPLOYER recognizes that you need this ability in order to be an efficient 'worker bee'.

I'm guessing this is why many largely successful entrepreneurs are dropouts - they couldn't do the systematic routines. However, they were intelligent in their own right, so rather than amount to nothing, they wrote their own set of routines, and founded companies.

I would lump you in with this group, however, you've come here to whine about it, instead of actually taking some type of physical action on solving your dilemma. As a result, there will be a spot in the fast food family for you.

For me, I wouldn't have made it if I couldn't TA my courses. I have a high IQ with a photographic memory, and while it sounds like a gift, its truly a curse. I bore easily and skip doing busy work. As it was, I was a huge slacker completing only the assignments with the largest weight to give me an A- / B+ in the overall class grade, so I'd have lots of options for Grad school. Since I was still "above average", I also avoided the "you're capable of so much more" speech.

I mention all of this because like you... I was also bored to death, albeit for different reasons. Unlike you, I was smart enough to use the system to my advantage.

You need to get your ass grounded, and figure out a solution, fast, because you're still pretty dumb if you're the smartest guy in the room with no future.

Last Edited by ifSHTF on 07/10/2012 02:18 PM

Outing yourself? Haha

I enjoyed your post until you said I was whining. What do I have to whine about if I've graduated? Do any of you have the attention span to read the first sentence?

I have a future, but it doesn't involve slow-career suicide. You're being lied to. A job is not the meaning of life.

What made you think I was bored?

Maybe the reason I haven't done any physical action is because I've been out of school for only a month. Plus, I have no desire to get into corporate America. I'm not disillusioned. I know money has no value.

Keep thinking I'm going to be working in fast food. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when you say that.

You are obviously not understanding some part of what I'm saying. I don't want to be a "worker bee," that whole phrase gives me visuals of a white-collar job. I'm not part of the system. I never will be. TPTB want you to think that the system is the one way through life, and it's either that or fastfood. You're doing a great job following that.

I don't know why you wasted time typing that out. What I thought was going to be a helpful response in disagreement turned out to be you telling me how great you were and how I am destined for fast food.

Thanks?

So you are calling people gay now? Sorry brokeback. Old Aggie here is straight as an arrow.

Nope, outing means to expose yourself. You quoted yourself and put a shill sign. You shilled yourself haha.

Much kudos to you OP, you are smarter than most at your age. I am 24, and if I knew what I know back then I'd have been a rebel totally and probably have a different life now than I do. As it is I am just starting to branch out and explore and starting to live my way for the first time. I can't help but feel cheated of my youth in ways though being fed lies for so long and held down by others expectations of me that weren't my own.

Having said that it's definitely made me stronger and made me who I now am, but wish I had that time back at times. I envy you for that. You are gonna go far I just know it.

I think George Carlin put it the best, the government wants people just smart enough to run the machines to do the jobs they require of them to do, and just dumb enough to not question the shittier jobs, the less pay, and the higher taxes. They want obedient workers, that's all, and modern education works to give them that. It's shitty on purpose, cause free thinking independent people don't serve their interests.

You know what gets me too? In college, you're STILL forced to take classes totally unrelated to what you want to go into. Why? If I'm studying music why do I need math? (unless it's music math). If I am going into history, why do I need science? It's stupid! There's no point to it besides money and making it that much harder to do the things I want to do. I may never take a college course again honestly, or if I did.....just take what I want and what benefits me as a standalone, nothing else. Why should I be forced into something I don't want or don't have an interest in?

And then you wonder why kids fail classes or skip classes altogether, be it in college or the lower levels alike. Well when you're not genuinely interested in the class you are taking but only are taking it cause you had to......what do you think is gonna happen??

Oh to go back.......I would have done things so different.

Last Edited by ajk on 07/10/2012 03:35 PM

Great post!

Carlin is my favorite comedian, no one has been able to match him! He really understood how things were being run. Wish he was still around...

What you say about college is so right. My brother just dropped out of college. He was an English major, and was trying to figure out why "Exploring the Universe" was a required course.

The problem is finding out where I go from here. I may do individual courses, like you said, for music. I don't care if I "make it," I just want to look back on my life 50 years from now and be happy with how I spent it. That's it.

I hope one day society wakes from its slumber and realizes just how much it's getting fucked by the system.

You mad bro? As I said, I'm straight as an arrow. No homo games for me.

Oh me too.....I can just see him railing away on the Obama regime.......he'd have had a FIELD DAY with that!

I find the "exploring the universe" course....kind of funny in name. We all SHOULD explore the universe lol, shouldn't even need a course for it lol. I presume it's based in exploring space though yeah?

I bet your brother got a lot of flak for dropping out too didn't he? I came close to finishing an associates degree before quitting myself in communications. I got shit for it, still hear sometimes about going back, but I have a different view of it all now from back then. Don't have much interest in that sort of structure now, wanna do my own thing more, do what has meaning to ME. I let others try and dictate how I thought and in ways lived for nearly 25 years, not any more.

I actually wrote something a few days ago that says a lot about how I feel now goes like this:

"I am me. I am strong willed, stubborn, passionate and opinionated. I speak my mind, I will tell you exactly what I think and not be shy in doing so. What I believe in I stand by wholeheartedly. You may disagree, you may even hate me for saying it, but you aren't gonna change it.



I am me. I live my life by my own set of rules. I am not like you, I am not like everyone else. I have my own definition of what it means to be normal, regardless of what society thinks of that. I am a free spirit and always will be a free spirit, no matter what anyone else may think of me. The only person that will make me change that is me, and me alone.



I am me. I have my own goals, my own visions, my own dreams of who I wish to become, and what direction I wish to take my life. It is mine to run, not anybody else's, and I am going to live it my way, on my terms. What you wish me to be doesn't necessarily matchup with what I do. I have my own path, and my own things that make me happy, and its that which I am going to follow. This life is too short to do anything other than that.



I am me. I am not perfect, I have my flaws, and I have made my mistakes, but they have made me the person that I now am and will become. I am not ashamed of who I am any longer. I am who I am, and I am proud of who I am, and who I will be in the future. I have found my voice, and I am using it.



I am me.....and that's all I can ever be."

I am following my own path now.......we all should. I don't fit in society's box of what normal is, and I don't want to. I just wanna be me. For myself, I am leaning towards combat sports, kickboxing, martial arts, etc. Always been kinda curious and had an interest in watching it, wondered what it's like to hit and be hit. Also would like to get stronger and learn to defend myself. Never fought before, was bullied when younger and didn't fight back. Wish I had, don't wanna be a pushover. So this is one direction I may be going, food and nutrition is another.

Whatever you do though dude, just follow your passion, do what has meaning and purpose to you. Don't worry about what others think, the ones that truly love you will understand and stand behind you, the others aren't worth your time. Life is too short to not be the person you wanna be. If you live it to please anyone else but you, you won't be happy or have much of a life in the end.

I know you know that of course, but just something to remember as you go forward. I wish you all the best.

I do think by the way our generation is waking up moreso than the past ones. Consciousness is changing, the old ways of thinking, political and religious alike are slowly dying. May take some time, but there may well be big changes in the future.

Last Edited by ajk on 07/10/2012 04:27 PM

It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again......

Dude.......awesome post!!! This is one of the most truthful posts I've read on this site! You are so right!

Yes, my brother did get flak for dropping out. He still does. He wants to get into animating or writing (freelance), and my parents are still pushing him to "go out and get a job." It's sad that there are some people who refuse to believe that the system is corrupt.

About "Exploring the Universe," perhaps the dumbest thing about the course is that it's more like a formal science class. My brother said it was a joke. It was a class taught in the auditorium, with (apparently) 150 kids to the class. That is modern teaching at its finest. You're right. We should be exploring the universe! To think that universities charge for that waste of time.

Thanks for the post, man. The whole "I am me" part was absolutely brilliant.

Thanks for sharing, and good luck! Hope you are able to do what you love!

Sociopath stuck in master - slave dialectics. Do you need a leader to think for you?

Shitbag.

Guess they dont teach manners at school either.

There are many types of leaders, you would know this if you had paid attention in school.

Knowing history is also what protects us from some oppressive leaders.

Wow, AC 7714 must have a MBA that he/she is proud of...and out of work with no prospects in sight

FWIW, I detected NO whining in the kid's post.

What a high school senior needs to be learning is a class about real world issues....

1 how to write a good resume
2 how to interview effectively

3 how to budget their finances to LIVE their lives within their means and NOT over spend

4 how to save money for retirement

5 How to communicate effectively in an "insane" world if confronted by a very hostile person be it a friend, family member, boss, spouse in order

to calm the situation

6 how to bargain for what you want in a job interview so that you can effectively communicate that salary you need and not look bad in front of the potential employer

just some things I wish I learned in the senior year

"Please, please tell me how math advances my life as a musician or filmmaker."


So, your goal in life is to serve the Illuminati who runs these industries, or are you content to being broke your entire life?

You read the entire post and even replied to various parts of it - it must have hit home. That was the intention!

It has nothing to do with how great I am, whatsoever. I was merely giving you insight into my personality, so we could speak intelligently. And yes, your post did come off a bit whiny. Why you ask? Because it was making derogatory complaints about the current situation instead of making acute statements with followup solutions.

Actually, I was just trying to relate that I think my mindset was similar to yours at 18. Think about it... where was I at - I had absolutely no intention of blending in with corporate America. At 18, I was being flown to comdex and e3 to check out new PC hardware, and this was just after the dot.com crash when venture capital was drying out. Heck, even being a Teaching Assistant for 2/3 of my classes is stepping outside the norm.

I don't know you, so maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.

Either way, my intent is to relay to you: if you walk outside of the norm, you need to have a good fucking plan, or you'll end up a really smart loser, flipping burgers - I know lots of them.

Unless you're going to own the business, you need to demonstrate that "worker bee" type attitude at some point. After lots of wasted $ and time, I learned that is pretty much what that shitty piece of paper from college demonstrates. It says, "here I am, I am capable of learning!"

It doesn't mean you need to dedicate your life to being a "worker bee", but if you go out there cocky as can be, you're going to fall on your face.

Even the best business owners started somewhere at the bottom. My problem upon graduation was that I expected just to jump right to the top. I had these larger than life expectations and dreams and figured the whole world would just open up before me. Sadly... it doesn't really work like that. lol.

I was cocky as can be when I was your age. 10 years taught me some degree of humility. Not a lot, but some. :-)

You need to learn from the past, before you should set out on your future. Otherwise... you might just end up with a bunch of materialistic shit, and become a really hollow person - I know this type, too.

The best advise I can give you - at this point in your life - you have NO attachments. No expectations. TRAVEL. Go meet people and make TONS of connections. Some day when you do have an ultra important job interview and someone notices the tip of your pinky missing, you might be able to retell a story about how you climbed some European mountain summit and rescued your entire group, while losing your pinky to frostbite.

That paper is important to some people... but character will always reign supreme.

The problem that you have OP, is one of being a free thinker. I, like you, had to suffer the same fate during HS in the 1970s. Many things are different nowadays, but the concept is all the same.

Do what you have to do, and get out of there. Once out, you van chart your own life accordingly. The sad fact is, you are loaded with intelligence. The Public School agenda is not geared to your type of thinking. the PTB need a society of followers, not leaders.

Focus on living outside the box and you will go far. To stay in the box all the other students are in, will lead one to a wasted and non productive life.

....But on the other hand Sagittarius, you already know this!

After going back and reading other post, looks like the OP has aimed the arrow very well. Facts, although painful at times, appear to frighten the ones who need the knowledge most, but fear of loosing the comfort zone protection forces those to a life of conformity.

If you get into higher math, you will find that every composition is an equation