Are people capable of self governance?

I said yes -- But I don't believe on a large collective scale.. otherwise things go wacky like we see today.

That and people loose their moral compass .. and begin not caring (or being lazy) to actually self govern and leave that to their corporate overloads that control every aspect of their lives with the absolute obedience of government.

I believe the only way for any segment of society to return to having fruitful lives and securing their futures is to leave the behemoth we have now or somehow find a way to turn society itself around before it smashes into a wall.

Boycott Pharma.
Control the Elites.
They will refuse at first to cut prices down.
Don't allow Elites to escape.
As cowards and selfish beings they will just quit when the people by massive boycotts try to control them.
Leaving the people alone, and begging for a comeback.
They know by leaving the people alone they will kill and devore each other.
Don't put those criminals in jail!
Put them to work as slaves, just only them.
I dream of a new world where manufacturing will be almost entire controlled by robotic machines and the people work only to accomplish their creative desires.

If 79% of the 99% are addicted to the system, there is no way to convert them.
They born in the system they die by the system.
A major disaster like having no electricity for 10 years will not shake those 79% minds.
What will do is the opposite: they will became animals figthing and murdering for a bag of ice.
The only thing you can do is either boycott, prepare or wait until the system falls.

The only problem with that is you are asking for people to be ruled by a person drawn from the very ranks of those who are incapable of self rule.

There are no "wise, incorruptible leaders" there are only men with all the flaws already built in.

That is why these "leaders" that people seem to need so desperately, must be restrained, bound by the chains of a constitution that actually works.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 07/11/2012 04:43 PM

Nicely said. The statists and parasites who have gotten the upper hand have to be overcome. Before true self governance can take place.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 07/11/2012 04:49 PM

Yup. Vampires at the top, blood sucking ticks at the bottom.

Yes. People seem to be terrified of what they think anarchy is. It actually means no rulers, NOT no rules.

Most of our daily life is conducted in anarchy. We make peaceful exchanges every day. We don't aggress against other people every day. We follow rules of civilized behavior. And it isn't because of government that we do these things.


It is in the interests of government to promulgate the idea that without government people descend into savagery.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 07/11/2012 05:23 PM

How can one even argue "natural" and "unnatural"?

Humans are natural beings who creat things out of natural resources.

Therefore, everything created by Man is natural.

Don't delude yourself so much to seperate yourself from your primative state.

Thread: the peoples government

yes and im not,im merely pointing out there is balance and imbalance which applies to everything,especially power.
it makes sense why they would want us to believe in an alien origin but even still its hard to make a distinction.natural\unnatural.

Last Edited by miserkocho on 07/12/2012 02:54 AM

Didn't work very well in mad max!