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Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

 
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This is what happens when the socialists run out of other people's money. All these Spaniards got used to not working and getting paid anyway. Margret Thatcher hit the nail right on the head when she said "The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money". Spain ran out of other people's money. Now they have to adjust to working for a living. It is unlikely that they will be any more successful at that than the Greeks have been. More likely, they will follow the Greeks down the path of begging for hand-outs.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Just exactly what Americas useless eaters are facing soon.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


We are facing the same thing. How many on food stamps ? Disability ? unemployment ?

We are not far behind. The only question left is if we will get off our asses or go down with the ship.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
World Revolution Against the Banksters. NATO /UN doesn't have enough troops to marshal "humanitarian efforts", wink wink, death squads that serve the elites and 1%.
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07/11/2012 10:50 PM

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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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07/11/2012 11:03 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473


Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe.
 Quoting: monfra


...almost as bad as the black population in the US...
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So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
 Quoting: Bluebird


It's all fun and games until the beer gets warm.

lol
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07/11/2012 11:11 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
The floating currency rebalance of trade is an interesting argument to be making as a reason to keep Germany in the euro.

Historically high currencies did affect national or regional competitiveness. That was because the owners of those currencies actively defended their means of production by various strategies: subsidies, tariffs, cartels, secret processes.

Today the secret hegemony of satanic bankers levels out and directs the world economy, so such measures are effectively prohibited. Were this hegemony to disappear, Germany could retain her wealth and productivity relative to the rest of europe and the world through regulation of trade as previously. However, these guys are in control of Germany as well for now, and they will not allow it.

So: Germany departs (with banker controlled financials) -> spiked Deutchmark, German economy gets killed dead realfast, industrial flight, productivity evaporates, not a good idea.

Germany departs (strict trading controls, border lockdown, genuinely backed German currency, industry pinned down/subsidised/nationalised even), this brings on an inevitable global financial collapse and things are going to suck for German industry but here's where it gets interesting: after the big breakup and end of the fiat con the rest of the west will be in no position to compete (finances ruined, currencies non-functional, with fading and decadent culture), the east will continue to produce and will be the real challenge but they will now focus first on their own serious problems.

So the key will be if Germany can retain industrial integrity and produce what will not be available from anywhere else _at any price_. Then the world _will_ pay in deutchmarks for German products, (actually in effect they will pay with commodities and east-asian manufactures, old style non-fiat trading).
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07/11/2012 11:12 PM
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Historically high currencies did not affect national or regional competitiveness.
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07/11/2012 11:12 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473


Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.
 Quoting: monfra


don't forget their VAT (sales tax) increased to 21%. That alone is reason enough to start hanging politicians from the nearest tree.
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So whats wrong with the new 21% sales tax in Spain anyway?tounge
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473



Wait a minute I know 'a few' Germans. You guys are as lazy as the rest of us
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07/11/2012 11:14 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
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07/11/2012 11:15 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473



Wait a minute I know 'a few' Germans. You guys are as lazy as the rest of us
 Quoting: dschis1000


The krauts are the ones who are owed the money.
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07/11/2012 11:16 PM
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So whats wrong with the new 21% sales tax in Spain anyway?tounge
 Quoting: uscrusader1


It's wonderful. I think they should pay a 300% tax.

I might teach them something about the welfare state

Good luck Julios! LOL Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!
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07/11/2012 11:17 PM
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So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
 Quoting: Bluebird


In the case of THIS WORLD.... It just might.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
someone needs to provide them with a map to all the banks and bank presidents.

What? Can they not find them? Follow the money, do they not understand where it is going?
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07/11/2012 11:17 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473


Silly foolish German forgets that fascism erupted FIRST in Spain before it engulfed the Nazis and the Italian fascists.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
 Quoting: Bluebird


In the case of THIS WORLD.... It just might.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911



You haven't really thought this through, have you?
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Homemade missiles?, more like bottle rockets. Don't worry you'll catch up to missile technology in about 2000 years.
Do the socialist/communists let the working class have that kind of 'firepower'?cool2

Spain: miners face police with homemade missiles

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19560013


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07/11/2012 11:23 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Marshmallow bonfire party
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07/11/2012 11:29 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Don't talk out yor ass.

Socialisation does not generate greed, dope. Or else are you telling me that each time you cross a taxpayer funded bridge or use a taxpayer funded road, you emerge from the experience frothing at the mouth in a rage of greed.

Yes, I am talking about socialised spending, tool, not subsistence welfare benefits (in contrast to the fat welfare teat corporations seem to think they have a right to.)

And don't give me that small 7/11 is capitalism nonsense, idiot, go and understand what capital constitutes.

Conditioned, stupid drones are our major ailment.
Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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07/11/2012 11:43 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Don't talk out yor ass.

Socialisation does not generate greed, dope. Or else are you telling me that each time you cross a taxpayer funded bridge or use a taxpayer funded road, you emerge from the experience frothing at the mouth in a rage of greed.

Yes, I am talking about socialised spending, tool, not subsistence welfare benefits (in contrast to the fat welfare teat corporations seem to think they have a right to.)

And don't give me that small 7/11 is capitalism nonsense, idiot, go and understand what capital constitutes.

Conditioned, stupid drones are our major ailment.
 Quoting: Marxist


Don't let labels fool you. Why not try being a human being instead of a useful idiot in a system that doesn't give a shit about you or your efforts in spreading and supporting its wretched gospel. Hmm?
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07/11/2012 11:46 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
yup.... i lived in poland. i got paid for not working. uk is screwed. they will resort to eating their shoes again. so sad. might as well let the muslim faith fix their government corruption problem. at least they will only need to buy 1 burka and nothing else.saves tons of money. thank god for america
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473



Wait a minute I know 'a few' Germans. You guys are as lazy as the rest of us
 Quoting: dschis1000


The krauts are the ones who are owed the money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


You ever been to Germany for an extended amount of time? Everyone talks about welfare state here. I give the example of Kindergeld?

I ain't taking for the Spanish either tho.

They do save though and aren't really frivolous with their money. They don't run a super huge military as percentage of their GDP. They are very ecxacting in a lot of ways though. Just walk through a "ghetto" in Weisbaden, Mainz, or Frankfurt at night. Big difference.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
 Quoting: Bluebird


In the case of THIS WORLD.... It just might.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911



You haven't really thought this through, have you?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Actually, I have. Kicking the can down the road does nothing but dig a deeper hole.

It's time for Rome to burn so that we can finally begin to rebuild with some new ideas. You know, like GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASS LAZY-TARD ideas. PRODUCTIVE IDEAS. NOT WELFARE IDEAS.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
run lazy Spanish Bums
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473



Wait a minute I know 'a few' Germans. You guys are as lazy as the rest of us
 Quoting: dschis1000


The krauts are the ones who are owed the money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


You ever been to Germany for an extended amount of time? Everyone talks about welfare state here. I give the example of Kindergeld?

I ain't taking for the Spanish either tho.

They do save though and aren't really frivolous with their money. They don't run a super huge military as percentage of their GDP. They are very ecxacting in a lot of ways though. Just walk through a "ghetto" in Weisbaden, Mainz, or Frankfurt at night. Big difference.
 Quoting: dschis1000


It doesn't matter what you SAY. The julios aren't productive enough to cover their costs. PERIOD.
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It doesn't matter. No matter how you slice it..... it's ALL a game of dominoes. If Spain cuts back, it will affect another country and if they cut back, another country and so on...

this is why they call it....


gee, A GLOBAL economy. We are so intertwined that one country cannot roll over without all the others bouncing on the bed.
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07/11/2012 11:51 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Don't talk out yor ass.

Socialisation does not generate greed, dope. Or else are you telling me that each time you cross a taxpayer funded bridge or use a taxpayer funded road, you emerge from the experience frothing at the mouth in a rage of greed.

Yes, I am talking about socialised spending, tool, not subsistence welfare benefits (in contrast to the fat welfare teat corporations seem to think they have a right to.)

And don't give me that small 7/11 is capitalism nonsense, idiot, go and understand what capital constitutes.

Conditioned, stupid drones are our major ailment.
 Quoting: Marxist


Demanding shit for free is greed, YOU STUPID FUCK! The recipient class is greedy as all fuck.

FUCK YOU!
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Don't talk out yor ass.

Socialisation does not generate greed, dope. Or else are you telling me that each time you cross a taxpayer funded bridge or use a taxpayer funded road, you emerge from the experience frothing at the mouth in a rage of greed.

Yes, I am talking about socialised spending, tool, not subsistence welfare benefits (in contrast to the fat welfare teat corporations seem to think they have a right to.)

And don't give me that small 7/11 is capitalism nonsense, idiot, go and understand what capital constitutes.

Conditioned, stupid drones are our major ailment.
 Quoting: Marxist


Don't let labels fool you. Why not try being a human being instead of a useful idiot in a system that doesn't give a shit about you or your efforts in spreading and supporting its wretched gospel. Hmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


So instead of my "wretched gospel" I should follow yours which MOST likely involves one or a mix of the following"

1 Pray and follow Jeebus who invariably "was" a social and economic conservative according to a particular class of drones (even though he was known to have hung out with all manner of moral and economic reprobate).

2 Shout vocally from the rooftops for the minimalisation of government oversight of banks, corporations and businesses generally (whilst they walk off with trillions of tax dollars that might have been better applied in education, etc,) whilst loudly berating the welfare "cheats" who at most, are lucky to get peanuts from the government.

Yeah, I'll stick to my "wretched gospel" tool. Rather than, than spend my life sniffing the rear end of this planets bloated, caviare imbibing mega welfare cheats.
Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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07/11/2012 11:53 PM
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

It doesn't matter. No matter how you slice it..... it's ALL a game of dominoes. If Spain cuts back, it will affect another country and if they cut back, another country and so on...

this is why they call it....


gee, A GLOBAL economy. We are so intertwined that one country cannot roll over without all the others bouncing on the bed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


You have it exactly backward. When countries cut back THEIR PRODUCTIVITY everyone gets hurt. Spending means shit in and of itself. It's their spending in EXCESS of their productivity that hurts

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