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Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

 
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There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
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I think the Spanish government has gone too far with their new cuts.

[link to www.elmundo.es]

This is happening now in Madrid and other Spanish cities. Police have charged and dissolved protesters for the third time today in the Spanish capital.
 Quoting: monfra


Here's how the Forefathers of the Eurozone worked this whole thing out...

1) Hey, we now have a Eurozone! All you have to do is join us, then we will lend you lots of money, then you will be very productive and rich!

2) Each country joins the Eurozone, borrows the money and begins to get rich.

3) The countries that borrowed the money and they worked toward getting rich, but something strange happened... They not only didn't get rich, but they ended up owing monsterous amounts of money with no way of repaying it.

4) So the Eurozone tells them that they should never have borrowed money that they couldn't repay. Then demands that these countries go into super austerity budgets in order to repay the loans that were supposed to make these countries rich!

(Hey! Doesn't this sound like the housing lending crisis that sank the U.S. Housing Crisis?)
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

It doesn't matter. No matter how you slice it..... it's ALL a game of dominoes. If Spain cuts back, it will affect another country and if they cut back, another country and so on...

this is why they call it....


gee, A GLOBAL economy. We are so intertwined that one country cannot roll over without all the others bouncing on the bed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


You have it exactly backward. When countries cut back THEIR PRODUCTIVITY everyone gets hurt. Spending means shit in and of itself. It's their spending in EXCESS of their productivity that hurts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17807051


Don't talk tripe. This is global capitalism. Global labour output is well in excess of consumer spending. What isn't is the leveraged betting that made massive demands of labour output well in excess of what workers are able to give off themselves, or the bailout recipient market.

Not only do your bawsses expect to have a divine right to gamble in this manner, they expect the worker to carry their losses.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Oh, oh, those poor socialist bankers!!! Moran!!
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Wait a minute I know 'a few' Germans. You guys are as lazy as the rest of us
 Quoting: dschis1000


The krauts are the ones who are owed the money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


You ever been to Germany for an extended amount of time? Everyone talks about welfare state here. I give the example of Kindergeld?

I ain't taking for the Spanish either tho.

They do save though and aren't really frivolous with their money. They don't run a super huge military as percentage of their GDP. They are very ecxacting in a lot of ways though. Just walk through a "ghetto" in Weisbaden, Mainz, or Frankfurt at night. Big difference.
 Quoting: dschis1000


It doesn't matter what you SAY. The julios aren't productive enough to cover their costs. PERIOD.
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Whatever, I just know Germans. I do know they consider Americans to be fat, lazy and selfish bums. I guess I'm gonna have to ask some of them to see what they are talking about over there.

I and a lot of Germans have railed against the Eurozone. You oughta have heard my landlord raising hell about the "Easties" when East and West were reuniting.

The banks have pulled the same crap over there (a little different) as they did here.

To give the "Julios" a bit of cover. They did have a few decades of Facism dictatorship (Franco) that put them behind the rest of Europe. That only goes so far though
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Fuck the Spaniards.
They live in the XIX century and only export olive oil and jamon.
Smoke like pigs, dress in black.

Get rid of your elephant hunting king, bunch of slaves !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19498999


Someone deserves to give you this...knockout
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
I think the Spanish government has gone too far with their new cuts.

[link to www.elmundo.es]

This is happening now in Madrid and other Spanish cities. Police have charged and dissolved protesters for the third time today in the Spanish capital.
 Quoting: monfra


Here's how the Forefathers of the Eurozone worked this whole thing out...

1) Hey, we now have a Eurozone! All you have to do is join us, then we will lend you lots of money, then you will be very productive and rich!

2) Each country joins the Eurozone, borrows the money and begins to get rich.

3) The countries that borrowed the money and they worked toward getting rich, but something strange happened... They not only didn't get rich, but they ended up owing monsterous amounts of money with no way of repaying it.

4) So the Eurozone tells them that they should never have borrowed money that they couldn't repay. Then demands that these countries go into super austerity budgets in order to repay the loans that were supposed to make these countries rich!

(Hey! Doesn't this sound like the housing lending crisis that sank the U.S. Housing Crisis?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18387482



The older Germans that I knew and know were saying the same thing. Minus the housing crisis of coarse. Younger Germans 35 and below are like Americans in that. They don't know their history
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can't be that bad if people according to article, were still going and coming out of bars , theaters etc....austerity just on papers similar to greece but there was no actual action taken to follow up....methink.
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can't be that bad if people according to article, were still going and coming out of bars , theaters etc....austerity just on papers similar to greece but there was no actual action taken to follow up....methink.
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Maybe a tourist town like Barcelona? I dunno. If they are Europeans they will drink beer of some sort. They all drink beer of some sort. Unless there is wine in some parts.
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There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


YOu just haven't followed along on whats happening. The elites are gonna get rid of alot of us before they really set up thier new world order thus in thier minds solving alot of thier problems/
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07/12/2012 12:20 AM

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Yeah, that always makes things better doesn't it.
 Quoting: Bluebird


In the case of THIS WORLD.... It just might.
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You haven't really thought this through, have you?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Actually, I have. Kicking the can down the road does nothing but dig a deeper hole.

It's time for Rome to burn so that we can finally begin to rebuild with some new ideas. You know, like GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASS LAZY-TARD ideas. PRODUCTIVE IDEAS. NOT WELFARE IDEAS.
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In your scenario, 90% of the lazy douchebags won't be able to get off the couch, because they will be crispy corpses.

The smell won't be pleasant.
This is the internet. Your opinion is irrelevant, unless you own a pornsite.
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Default your payments on every thing, that'll teach the elite to screw you.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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you frackers haven't a clue. The big flush is coming. War, financial collapse. then you'll be chipped and you'll have drones flying over your head making sure you comply.

Americans are soooo stupid and ignorant/
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There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


YOu just haven't followed along on whats happening. The elites are gonna get rid of alot of us before they really set up thier new world order thus in thier minds solving alot of thier problems/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The owners of the means of production have no interest in killing us off. The more there is of us, the cheaper it is to produce, and the more of us there is for credit and consumerism. Which is why immigration is a coveted source of market growth.

Their problem of course will be manitaining growth when the last of the workers have been all tapped out, work and shopping wise. That is many decades off.
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There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


YOu just haven't followed along on whats happening. The elites are gonna get rid of alot of us before they really set up thier new world order thus in thier minds solving alot of thier problems/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The owners of the means of production have no interest in killing us off. The more there is of us, the cheaper it is to produce, and the more of us there is for credit and consumerism. Which is why immigration is a coveted source of market growth.

Their problem of course will be manitaining growth when the last of the workers have been all tapped out, work and shopping wise. That is many decades off.
 Quoting: Marxist


you really think that. har, har, What do you think the wars and financial collpase is all about. They're gonna get rid of many of us. wake up. Seriously.
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There is no way a one world currency will ever work. There are too many freeloaders. Too many free loading countries. Too many lazy fucktards think they're owed simply because they exist and demand payment.

Socialism kills itself. Too bad it takes down all the productive people with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


YOu just haven't followed along on whats happening. The elites are gonna get rid of alot of us before they really set up thier new world order thus in thier minds solving alot of thier problems/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The owners of the means of production have no interest in killing us off. The more there is of us, the cheaper it is to produce, and the more of us there is for credit and consumerism. Which is why immigration is a coveted source of market growth.

Their problem of course will be manitaining growth when the last of the workers have been all tapped out, work and shopping wise. That is many decades off.
 Quoting: Marxist


you really think that. har, har, What do you think the wars and financial collpase is all about. They're gonna get rid of many of us. wake up. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The wars that are ongoing are necessary to remove the impediments to globalisation of capital as well as bring otherwise nationalised resouces to the open market. The Russians, Iranians and Chinese are in cahoots with the Western centres of capital in NY and London (as is most of the world including the Islamists). Assad is not as co-operative like his fellow Baathist, Saddam. This is not to say that Assad is a radical, not by any means. He wants to be able to dictate to the centres of capital which he is not able to do seeing as much of the planet, from the centres of capital to the mercantilist nations of Japan, German and China, are very inter-dependent, for the time being.

Remember my words in 5 years time, OK 'cos change aint coming anytime soon?

edit: the financial problems reflect a skewed capitalism that harkens back to the Cold War perks that were given to the Western masses to avoid them rebelling, like a stake in capitalism, ie house ownership. Now that the Cold War is over, many of those houses will be turned to rentals as many Western workers are reduced into tenants.

Last Edited by Marxist on 07/12/2012 01:03 AM
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YOu just haven't followed along on whats happening. The elites are gonna get rid of alot of us before they really set up thier new world order thus in thier minds solving alot of thier problems/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The owners of the means of production have no interest in killing us off. The more there is of us, the cheaper it is to produce, and the more of us there is for credit and consumerism. Which is why immigration is a coveted source of market growth.

Their problem of course will be manitaining growth when the last of the workers have been all tapped out, work and shopping wise. That is many decades off.
 Quoting: Marxist


you really think that. har, har, What do you think the wars and financial collpase is all about. They're gonna get rid of many of us. wake up. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19273437


The financial problems reflect a skewed capitalism that harkens back to the Cold War perks that were given to the Western masses to avoid them rebelling, like a stake in capitalism, ie house ownership a Margaret Thatcher policy which Reagan adopted. Now that the Cold War is over, many of those houses will be turned to rentals as many Western workers are reduced into tenants.

Last Edited by Marxist on 07/12/2012 01:07 AM
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will be a fun summer, I mean just look what the plan is? fuck the working class in the ass and ask for understanding :D yeah fuck, let the banks fail and let the rich sucker go down. As a German I want it to happen even if it means german banks are going down. I mean there are NO such things as "GERMAN" or a "spanish" Bank they are above the people they are international Banksters stealing from all of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19560013


clappa
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Si

We are not lazy many work 2 jobs. Problem is banks, corruption and immigrants feeding off the system.

Fact the banks are not releasing peoples money here. Banks are dumping many properties on the market. Meanwhile they try to kick out a single mother with 3 children out of her home. The people said no and surrounded her home for days and nights. Now the People are helping her, NOT the banks, not the politicians.

Capitalism works but it will fold if no morality and honesty.

By the way, Spain is NOT in debt. The banks try to pass on there debts to the people. But banks don´t play fair, they are screwing people now. The middle class and poor get hurt.
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will be a fun summer, I mean just look what the plan is? fuck the working class in the ass and ask for understanding :D yeah fuck, let the banks fail and let the rich sucker go down. As a German I want it to happen even if it means german banks are going down. I mean there are NO such things as "GERMAN" or a "spanish" Bank they are above the people they are international Banksters stealing from all of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19560013


clappa
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Si

We are not lazy many work 2 jobs. Problem is banks, corruption and immigrants feeding off the system.

Fact the banks are not releasing peoples money here. Banks are dumping many properties on the market. Meanwhile they try to kick out a single mother with 3 children out of her home. The people said no and surrounded her home for days and nights. Now the People are helping her, NOT the banks, not the politicians.

Capitalism works but it will fold if no morality and honesty.

By the way, Spain is NOT in debt. The banks try to pass on there debts to the people. But banks don´t play fair, they are screwing people now. The middle class and poor get hurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19600303


No point blaming immigrants. They are suffering back in their own countries with imperialist adventures...or don't you follow the news?
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It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.
 Quoting: monfra


Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).
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good point. if europeans worked more like americans do then maybe you guys wouldnt have such a mess. then again if americans worked more like say... china.. then we wouldnt have our mess either hehe
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Yeh, let’s work, work, work and work until it kills us. That should sort the problem.
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Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.
 Quoting: monfra


Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


good point. if europeans worked more like americans do then maybe you guys wouldnt have such a mess. then again if americans worked more like say... china.. then we wouldnt have our mess either hehe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12919402


Yeh, let’s work, work, work and work until it kills us. That should sort the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410221


To these lowlifes, we have no other purpose than to work, then die when we have passed our sell-by date.
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Fuck the Spaniards.
They live in the XIX century and only export olive oil and jamon.
Smoke like pigs, dress in black.

Get rid of your elephant hunting king, bunch of slaves !
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That's just bullshit....apart from the need to be good to elephants.
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So, what's the plan for after the cities are all burned to the ground?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


They will not do that. They are hard working and decent people pissed at being done over by a corrupt international financial system.
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Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves
This is what happens when the socialists run out of other people's money. All these Spaniards got used to not working and getting paid anyway. Margret Thatcher hit the nail right on the head when she said "The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money". Spain ran out of other people's money. Now they have to adjust to working for a living. It is unlikely that they will be any more successful at that than the Greeks have been. More likely, they will follow the Greeks down the path of begging for hand-outs.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Just exactly what Americas useless eaters are facing soon.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


We are facing the same thing. How many on food stamps ? Disability ? unemployment ?

We are not far behind. The only question left is if we will get off our asses or go down with the ship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19195341


And you guys after all did set the ball rolling in 2008 as a result of a crooked and incompetently regulated financial system. Your bankers were going to the races using your hard earned money then expected to be bailed out when it all went pear shaped. No different in Spain or Greece or anywhere else.
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Probably less so than capitalism which venerates greed and pomp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Welfare generates greed. Welfare pukes are the MOST greedy.

YOu are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911


Geez there must be a lot of greedy Americans given the numbers without jobs and those who can't afford medical treatment....greedy as all get out.

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