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Am I democrat or republican?

 
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Neither , you live in benign dictatorship. Dont try to fool yourself any other way.
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You're a fence-sitter.

Because many of your stated beliefs are based on competing or incompatible values.
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


You are a Utopian.

There is NOTHING for free. You contradict yourself by saying you want something for "free" and you don't like taxes.

The money comes from somewhere and people generally do not want to donate their time.

You don't want big government, but you do at the same time.

You are confused and need to get your priorities straight.

I think you lean Libertarian but you need to do some research because your ideology is flawed.
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communist
lets hang him!
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ahhh
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Why do you have to be labelled?
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I AM! is good enough.
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


In this day and age, unless you are a full blown socialist, you would be better off considering yourself a Republican. Really the only ones left in the Dem Party are the elites, college hippies and the parasite entitlement class who all want what you have.
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I'm not quite sure if I would give someone an axe instead of food stamps
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I'm not quite sure if I would give someone an axe instead of food stamps
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Lol. It was actually a garden hoe instead of food stamps and an axe and land instead of housing benefits..
Yet I can see your point ;)
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You're a fence-sitter.

Because many of your stated beliefs are based on competing or incompatible values.
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Yes, you can't have all of the controls you want in place but still be for small, limited government. Food and medical care are "rights" but abortion is OK? Think things through and then come back and post again. You are clearly confused.
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When you get to the point where you think that government only exists to provide for public roads and military to defend the CONUS, then you can be a Conservative Libertarian like me! ;)

I don't think that government should be in anyone's bedroom/clinic, but I also reserve the right to protest immorality through social means. For example, I strongly disagree with abortion and I would treat it like PETA members treat rich women with fur coats.
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I wouldnt get hung up on the "Republican" or "Democrat" bullshit. You have a lot of conservative views and a few liberal ones. Kind of like me, I have mostly conservative views but I'm not not religious at all and I believe in legalizing pot. I almost always vote republican because I believe in the constitution, small gov't, freedom, less taxes, and working for what you have. Nothing should be guaranteed except for the freedom to pursue your dreams. With a small exception for the elderly and disabled. If you want a cell phone, car, house, or computer, get a job and work for it.
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


People need to choose principle over party. If people voted their principles most of the corrupt jackasses in both parties would be gone. The first principle should be honesty. If your reps are not honest brokers, they should not be allowed to hold office in your name, regardless of whether you agree with them on issues or not.
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If you're gonna ask like that, then yes.
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
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People need to choose principle over party. If people voted their principles most of the corrupt jackasses in both parties would be gone. The first principle should be honesty. If your reps are not honest brokers, they should not be allowed to hold office in your name, regardless of whether you agree with them on issues or not.
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Agreed, in principle that's how it should be. However, I firmly believe that votes don't mean anything because politicians are selected by TPTB, not voted in. Dog and pony show.
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oh gawd, is this thread still alive? Can't we get a silver bullet or wooden stake or something?
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


People need to choose principle over party. If people voted their principles most of the corrupt jackasses in both parties would be gone. The first principle should be honesty. If your reps are not honest brokers, they should not be allowed to hold office in your name, regardless of whether you agree with them on issues or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676


Agreed, in principle that's how it should be. However, I firmly believe that votes don't mean anything because politicians are selected by TPTB, not voted in. Dog and pony show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


my vote has counted numerous times. Many of the candidates I voted for won by a slim margin.

MAYBE YOU ARE TPTB, TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE 'NOTHING MATTERS' SO THEY DON'T GET OUT AND VOTE.
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
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Well, first of all, if people don't know the official positions of each party, the basic party platform, then their 'opinions' mean nothing.

It's sad to think you are renewed by GRAY AREAS. Gray areas have ruined society. We are urged to be moderate. Why? Conservatives have been pressured into becoming increasingly moderate so that they ended up becoming more like liberals (Democrats) and then everyone cries "Oh it doesn't matter, there's no difference between the parties!" But, But - I thought you wanted everyone to move toward the middle.

BUT...When everyone moves toward the middle, you can't tell the difference between them anymore!

Gray is BAD. It means you can't make up your mind on anything. Take OP for instance. He/She states their opinion i.e. how they "feel" about certian issues, but probably can't discuss many of those topics with any knowledge. He/she just "feels" that way and wants to go pull a lever/cast a ballot.
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


I would take you for a true American. Political parties quit serving the American people long ago, and sometimes it takes going back to why and how this country was fought and created for to find the real meaning of what it is. I believe you have a right to your thoughts. I believe you have the right to defend your thoughts. I also believe you have the right to honestly listen to others without disrespecting them because they don't hold the same truths as you do. if you are honest in your beliefs, and abide them as you would your life, then there is nothing wrong with having thoughts, feelings, and beliefs that defy others labels.
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Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Well, first of all, if people don't know the official positions of each party, the basic party platform, then their 'opinions' mean nothing.

It's sad to think you are renewed by GRAY AREAS. Gray areas have ruined society. We are urged to be moderate. Why? Conservatives have been pressured into becoming increasingly moderate so that they ended up becoming more like liberals (Democrats) and then everyone cries "Oh it doesn't matter, there's no difference between the parties!" But, But - I thought you wanted everyone to move toward the middle.

BUT...When everyone moves toward the middle, you can't tell the difference between them anymore!

Gray is BAD. It means you can't make up your mind on anything. Take OP for instance. He/She states their opinion i.e. how they "feel" about certian issues, but probably can't discuss many of those topics with any knowledge. He/she just "feels" that way and wants to go pull a lever/cast a ballot.
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I couldn't disagree more. When I say gray area, I don't mean "centre" or "moderate", I mean DIFFERENT from the textbook Rep/Dem. There is no "left", "right" and "center". Reps and Dems are essentially the same in so many ways that it is a misnomer to think they are opposite ends of some non-existent spectrum. And that is not a result of one side being pushed towards some non-existent "middle". Forget about which "side" you belong to or how close to center some are. You've been conditioned to think this way.

You're essentially saying that if you don't fit into these extremely restrictive holes then you are BAD. Well, the OP along with many that replied in this thread see things on an issue by issue basis and don't fit some preconceived set of ideals put forth by a political party.
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"I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis."

Ah, you believe in slavery. Must be a Democrat.
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


You are neither. You should keep it that way. These two "choices" make no difference other than to drive a stake through the citizens as to cause chaos.
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I fall on different sides of the political divide all the time. Any thinking person would. There is nothing worse than someone who agrees with a political party on every issue. Such people are accurately described as shills or sheeple.

I'm independent and vote however I see fit at the time. This year I'm afraid I'll be voting for that used car salesman Romney.
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You're afraid? Don't be. Understand if the incumbent failed, he or she doesn't deserve another chance. obama has been a grade "A" failure from the start. If Romney does the same, that is if he is elected, then it's time to sharpen the ax in 2016.
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


Umm, your little flag thingy says you are a Brit, so being either a dem or a repub isn't really relevant is it? 1doh1
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So, I've never bothered to take political sides because, well, I think it's a scam.

But if I were to choose a side, which would I be on?

I like guns.

I hate taxes.

I have nothing against abortion.

I like the idea of medical being available to all, but I would never fund the commercial life and money sucking mode of medicine in the US. Why pay extravagantly for people to stay ill?

I think government is way too big.

I think there are too many laws.

I think housing is a right, as is food.

I'd go for drug legalization. Pot doesn't give me a headache like beer does.

Other than keeping factories out of residential areas, I see no point in zoning laws, building permits, or fees..at all.

I do not think land should be taxed other than when it is purchased or sold.

I do not think government should be able to trespass on private property.

I think corporate lobbying in all of its forms should be illegal.

I would like the right to shoot anyone that comes through my door without knocking, no matter who they are.

I'm an atheist

I like the idea of free education, but I think the current university system is worthless, outdated, and a piece of crap; so I would rather not fund that form of education.

I think that illegal immigration should be abolished, but not by building bigger walls. I think that people should be allowed by the governments to pay taxes and participate in the country they are actually in, without having to go through ridiculous methods that force them to work under the table and become a strain to their host country. If the border authorities are as bad as they seem to be, I don't think we should be paying them. Obviously there has to be another way.

I think medical doctors should have their schooling subsidized and should be given a slightly better than living wage, not ridiculous pay. I want someone working on me that cares about working on me, not about a Lexis.

I think all television advertising, especially the stuff in programs that the government and corporations slip in, should be banned. If it's not good enough for people to learn about by word of mouth, they don't need to hear about it. If Hollywood can't afford to pay their actors after that, too bad, they're overpaid anyway. Like all good artists they should scrape by and live on the donations of those that appreciate their art.

I think people need to learn how to communicate and police themselves.

I think welfare should exist, but at the same time I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on government. So, what I would really like is for people to be given the opportunity to take care of themselves. Instead of food stamps offer garden space that will belong to that person but that they or their's must tend to. Instead of housing benefits, offer land and an axe, etc. If someone has to build their own home, they'll be invested in it...or they'll live under a tarp.

Taxes: When individuals pay their taxes I think they should be able to vote for what it goes for. If 13% of people in an area (regardless of how much they actually paid) decide they want their money to go to schools, then 13% of the money collected will go to schools.

Bureaucracy: forms that only allow certain input should not be allowed. Anyone that says "The computer won't let me" should be shot on site.

Old people: they're cute. I'm not going to let them starve.


So, what am I?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


I wouldn't worry about Left verses Right. Your kind is rare and well understood by me. Refine what you are and be ready to "take abuse" once you evolve further along your path. Both Left and Right will despise you and accuse your of being on the other side of the fence from themselves. They only see left verses right.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
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Well, first of all, if people don't know the official positions of each party, the basic party platform, then their 'opinions' mean nothing.

It's sad to think you are renewed by GRAY AREAS. Gray areas have ruined society. We are urged to be moderate. Why? Conservatives have been pressured into becoming increasingly moderate so that they ended up becoming more like liberals (Democrats) and then everyone cries "Oh it doesn't matter, there's no difference between the parties!" But, But - I thought you wanted everyone to move toward the middle.

BUT...When everyone moves toward the middle, you can't tell the difference between them anymore!

Gray is BAD. It means you can't make up your mind on anything. Take OP for instance. He/She states their opinion i.e. how they "feel" about certian issues, but probably can't discuss many of those topics with any knowledge. He/she just "feels" that way and wants to go pull a lever/cast a ballot.
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I couldn't disagree more. When I say gray area, I don't mean "centre" or "moderate", I mean DIFFERENT from the textbook Rep/Dem. There is no "left", "right" and "center". Reps and Dems are essentially the same in so many ways that it is a misnomer to think they are opposite ends of some non-existent spectrum. And that is not a result of one side being pushed towards some non-existent "middle". Forget about which "side" you belong to or how close to center some are. You've been conditioned to think this way.

You're essentially saying that if you don't fit into these extremely restrictive holes then you are BAD. Well, the OP along with many that replied in this thread see things on an issue by issue basis and don't fit some preconceived set of ideals put forth by a political party.
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You write well but have no idea what you are talking about. The parties are NOT essentially the same.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
No probably not.

You don't seem like you would fit in their molds.

I like to call them the Repugnicrats and the Demoncats.

One thing those two agree on is that they will allow no new competition to develop.

Another thing they have in common is that the leadership is totally owned by the oligarchs.

The oligharchs decide our "direction", and the parties line both sides of the path so the herd cannot stray. They only pretend to oppose each other.

Those candidates who want to go in a different direction (or turn around like Ron Paul) get no funding or coverage. For example how many average people even know Ron Paul is still in the US presidential race? IF they overcome those odds and get elected anyway, they get bought, blackmailed, or threatened into submission. Those who will not bend and can keep their support get redistricted, have accidents, sudden illnesses, sexcapades, become criminals or die.

The current political system is unworthy of support or validation. Opposing it is a waste of time and energy. It is better to ignore politicians as much as possible and work for what you want without them.

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"I hate taxes" - well most people do but . . .


"- Don't drive on paved streets or highways.

- Don't call 911.

- Don't flush your toilet.

- Don't bring your garbage to the curb.

- Don't fly in an airplane that uses air-traffic controllers.

- Don't use the court system.

- Don't call the police when you get robbed.

- Don't use the US Post Office, send all your letters via FedEx or UPS.

- Don't ask for a farm subsidy for not growing crops.

- Don't ask for a taxpayer subsidy to do business in a city or state.

- Don't send your children to public schools.

- Don't attend a state university.

- Don't expect a social security payment.

- Don't let Medicare pay your bills if you are over 65 or disabled.

- Don't climb to the top of the Washington Monument, which is maintained at taxpayer expense.

- Don't be rescued by fire department paramedic team.

- Don't call the fire department.

- Don't expect federal assistance if a natural disaster destroys your home or business.

- Don't expect the military to defend your country.

- Don't visit national parks or hike in national forests.

- Don't eat USDA inspected meat, cheese, eggs or produce.

- Don't take any medications tested and approved by the FDA.

- Don't drink, bath or otherwise use the water from municipal water systems.

- Don't expect a red light to work.

- Don't use the public library.

- Don't go to a state university affiliated hospital.

- Don't go to a state university.

- Don't go to a state, city or municipal-run airport.

- Don't ask for rural electrification."


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And the 'old people are cute' comment?
 Quoting: Truly


So, are you Republican or Democrat?
 Quoting: Candy Corn


At the moment I am a moderate Democrat. It's not as black and white as it used to be for me. But my post was to give you some things to consider.
 Quoting: Truly


Did you read the last one where I said the people should get to vote on what their taxes went for when they paid them (or where I said land should only be taxed upon sale, or the other half dozen things about taxes that included the word "pay")?

Because honestly, I don't need or use more than half the things on that list, and many communities find them plain insulting or annoying. And by vote I don't mean "democrat or republican". I mean if 1000 people vote and there are 10,000 dollars in taxes, then each vote is $10 in the direction of where the individual people choose it to go.

Because personally:
I don't use public schools- they're worthless
I like solar, I don't need wires running out to my property.
I have the internet, google books, no need for a library.
I'm not in favor of killing boys overseas.
I know about the right of way at intersections so I don't need a red light. I think they're a waste of resources and are there because we no longer trust each other to have a brain.
I think flushing poo into fresh water is a waste of a limited resource. I can't believe we still do it.
I don't get tax cut payer benefits (or whatever you call them).

Etc. I don't feel like writing out the whole thing. But if everyone in a community has to pay in, they should each get something back out that they personally can actually utilize.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


dont forget that the other guy thinks his income tax money goes back to him.. hihihi so funny.
it actualy goes to the banks to pay the interest for the government loans. its robbery.
there are thousand other taxes that pays for all that he said.

let the country print its own effing money, and nobody would ever need to pay income tax again.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
You're a conservative.

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