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Am I democrat or republican?

 
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
You're a sheep, moved from one opinion to anther based on a simple fact: do you believe. and if you do and it is told to you by someone you trust..... then you will move to the next " field" to be feed more crap, ah oh... i mean food.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Two puppet shows....one puppet master.

They both suck.

Libertarian anarchist...non violent of course.....but packing just in case.

But why label?
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07/12/2012 11:25 AM
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Very refreshing thread. I'm encouraged to see so many people of the opinion that there are large gray areas between the reps and dems. I guess most of these folks just avoid the politically charged threads where everyone seems to be hardcore blue team or hardcore red team with no middle ground allowed. Not everyone is a partisantard! My faith in GLP has been renewed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Well, first of all, if people don't know the official positions of each party, the basic party platform, then their 'opinions' mean nothing.

It's sad to think you are renewed by GRAY AREAS. Gray areas have ruined society. We are urged to be moderate. Why? Conservatives have been pressured into becoming increasingly moderate so that they ended up becoming more like liberals (Democrats) and then everyone cries "Oh it doesn't matter, there's no difference between the parties!" But, But - I thought you wanted everyone to move toward the middle.

BUT...When everyone moves toward the middle, you can't tell the difference between them anymore!

Gray is BAD. It means you can't make up your mind on anything. Take OP for instance. He/She states their opinion i.e. how they "feel" about certian issues, but probably can't discuss many of those topics with any knowledge. He/she just "feels" that way and wants to go pull a lever/cast a ballot.
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I couldn't disagree more. When I say gray area, I don't mean "centre" or "moderate", I mean DIFFERENT from the textbook Rep/Dem. There is no "left", "right" and "center". Reps and Dems are essentially the same in so many ways that it is a misnomer to think they are opposite ends of some non-existent spectrum. And that is not a result of one side being pushed towards some non-existent "middle". Forget about which "side" you belong to or how close to center some are. You've been conditioned to think this way.

You're essentially saying that if you don't fit into these extremely restrictive holes then you are BAD. Well, the OP along with many that replied in this thread see things on an issue by issue basis and don't fit some preconceived set of ideals put forth by a political party.
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You write well but have no idea what you are talking about. The parties are NOT essentially the same.
[link to 2012electionsblog.the2012presidentialelections.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739


If you step back far enough, you might see it too. I have the benefit of not having a horse in the race being Canadian but am close enough to be well aware of happenings, developments and opinions relevant to the topic.

If you're going to claim that I have no idea know what I'm talking about and then proceed to link to something written with a heavy dose of bias then realize that it only reinforces my view (in my own mind). That piece is trash and perpetuates the falsehoods I'm referring to. You're too wrapped up in the thick of the problem I'm discussing to see it. Can't see the forest for the trees scenario.

You're right to point out they aren't the same, that is an exaggerated view on my part. They are however, much closer than we are led to believe. Political parties are not about some ideal that they are striving for. They both answer to the same elite. They both listen the same lobby. Both share the same true motivation - money.

A little off topic, but I feel the single biggest barrier to real change is the way that the political system is structured. Elected officials care about one thing more than any other - getting re-elected. The future doesn't exist beyond their current term. There is no long term thinking or perspective as a result.
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07/12/2012 11:29 AM
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Am I a Psychopath-rican, or a Buffoon-ocrat

I think I tend to lean Buffoon-ocrat?

The influence of psychopaths and other deviants isn't just one of many influences working on society, but, under the appropriate circumstances, can be the primary influence that shapes the way we live, what we think, and how we judge what is going on around us.

When you understand the true nature of that influence, that it is conscienceless, emotionless, selfish, cold and calculating, and devoid of any moral or ethical standards, you are horrified, but at the same time everything suddenly begins to makes sense.

These Psychopaths can't stop themselves, that is the nature of their desperate illness.

One dangerous aspect of their pathology is a homicidal/suicidal character, and a desperate NEED to control others.

When you take away their "control" they develop insidious plans to regain it, or they will go homicidal/suicidal.

Like junkies who can see a sack-full of heroin, and it's just beyond their reach. The Psychopath will stop at nothing to fulfill there pathological needs.

Duty lies upon the average person to stop these derranged individuals.

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Psychopaths, Malignant, Sociopaths, Megalomaniacs...

Know their Pathology and Vectors...

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07/12/2012 11:36 AM
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To be truthful, it doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It does not matter. I tell ya, bro. What exactly are you looking for.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Why not? They have different views on every social problem the country faces. Just because some are wishy washy sell outs - in both parties, doesn't mean you shouldn't REGISTER in the party you want and effect CHANGE in that party. In New York State, you can't vote in a Republican or Democratic party if you are registered Independant or anything else that isn't specfically Rep. or Dem. I stupidly registered Independant and then had absolutely NO SAY in who a party could pick for a candidate to beat the other guy.

It matters for reasons you haven't even thought of yet.

If you really don't think it matters, kill yourself.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
To be truthful, it doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It does not matter. I tell ya, bro. What exactly are you looking for.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Why not? They have different views on every social problem the country faces. Just because some are wishy washy sell outs - in both parties, doesn't mean you shouldn't REGISTER in the party you want and effect CHANGE in that party. In New York State, you can't vote in a Republican or Democratic party if you are registered Independant or anything else that isn't specfically Rep. or Dem. I stupidly registered Independant and then had absolutely NO SAY in who a party could pick for a candidate to beat the other guy.

It matters for reasons you haven't even thought of yet.

If you really don't think it matters, kill yourself.
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I meant to say:
In New York State, you can't vote in a Republican or Democratic PRIMARY if you are registered Independant or anything else that isn't specfically Rep. or Dem.
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07/12/2012 11:45 AM

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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
To be truthful, it doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It doesn't matter which political party you're with.

I will repeat. It does not matter. I tell ya, bro. What exactly are you looking for.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Why not? They have different views on every social problem the country faces. Just because some are wishy washy sell outs - in both parties, doesn't mean you shouldn't REGISTER in the party you want and effect CHANGE in that party. In New York State, you can't vote in a Republican or Democratic party if you are registered Independant or anything else that isn't specfically Rep. or Dem. I stupidly registered Independant and then had absolutely NO SAY in who a party could pick for a candidate to beat the other guy.

It matters for reasons you haven't even thought of yet.

If you really don't think it matters, kill yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739


I meant to say:
In New York State, you can't vote in a Republican or Democratic PRIMARY if you are registered Independant or anything else that isn't specfically Rep. or Dem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739


Here in Alabama I believe you can only vote in one primary but can be either one. Just not both.

But I do believe most people are truly Independents and would vote the person and not the party. There are always a few die-hard party liners but I really think most consider the person first.
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Well, first of all, if people don't know the official positions of each party, the basic party platform, then their 'opinions' mean nothing.

It's sad to think you are renewed by GRAY AREAS. Gray areas have ruined society. We are urged to be moderate. Why? Conservatives have been pressured into becoming increasingly moderate so that they ended up becoming more like liberals (Democrats) and then everyone cries "Oh it doesn't matter, there's no difference between the parties!" But, But - I thought you wanted everyone to move toward the middle.

BUT...When everyone moves toward the middle, you can't tell the difference between them anymore!

Gray is BAD. It means you can't make up your mind on anything. Take OP for instance. He/She states their opinion i.e. how they "feel" about certian issues, but probably can't discuss many of those topics with any knowledge. He/she just "feels" that way and wants to go pull a lever/cast a ballot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739


I couldn't disagree more. When I say gray area, I don't mean "centre" or "moderate", I mean DIFFERENT from the textbook Rep/Dem. There is no "left", "right" and "center". Reps and Dems are essentially the same in so many ways that it is a misnomer to think they are opposite ends of some non-existent spectrum. And that is not a result of one side being pushed towards some non-existent "middle". Forget about which "side" you belong to or how close to center some are. You've been conditioned to think this way.

You're essentially saying that if you don't fit into these extremely restrictive holes then you are BAD. Well, the OP along with many that replied in this thread see things on an issue by issue basis and don't fit some preconceived set of ideals put forth by a political party.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


You write well but have no idea what you are talking about. The parties are NOT essentially the same.
[link to 2012electionsblog.the2012presidentialelections.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739


If you step back far enough, you might see it too. I have the benefit of not having a horse in the race being Canadian but am close enough to be well aware of happenings, developments and opinions relevant to the topic.

If you're going to claim that I have no idea know what I'm talking about and then proceed to link to something written with a heavy dose of bias then realize that it only reinforces my view (in my own mind). That piece is trash and perpetuates the falsehoods I'm referring to. You're too wrapped up in the thick of the problem I'm discussing to see it. Can't see the forest for the trees scenario.

You're right to point out they aren't the same, that is an exaggerated view on my part. They are however, much closer than we are led to believe. Political parties are not about some ideal that they are striving for. They both answer to the same elite. They both listen the same lobby. Both share the same true motivation - money.

A little off topic, but I feel the single biggest barrier to real change is the way that the political system is structured. Elected officials care about one thing more than any other - getting re-elected. The future doesn't exist beyond their current term. There is no long term thinking or perspective as a result.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


I agree with your last paragraph, and especially agree with those who want to repeal what is commonly called McCain-Feingold.

Actually, the link was dead on. Was it biasly written? Yes, but it's still dead on and I doubt you'd find too many libs that would disagree with it. I don't have time to look up the actual stated platform of each party, but they are out there and worth reading. Apparently no one here has the time or interest to do but they can talk a good deal.

I can step back real far. I actually have tape recordings of myself and someone else doing an imitation of the Ford/Carter debate. I was younger, but even then realized there was a BIG difference in parties.

Actually, when I was younger and they were first being broadcast, I used to wonder why the people at the Democratic primaries looked like freaks while the Republican people looked like regular folks. Yeah, I was little but it was apparent even on TV. Kinda like a room full of Janine Garrafalo's vs. a room full of Charleton Heston's.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Libertarian
 Quoting: Oyster


Libertarian? Libertarians would not be for housing and food beinf a right. Or for subsidizing anything.

I would say she is more of a conservative Dem...like a Reagan democrat.
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Re: Am I democrat or republican?
Definitely a Dem.

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