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WATCHING the world wake up FROM HISTORY

 
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7 14 2012 = 17 = 8
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8 is the number of salvation = The Harvest

It is a sign of God's covenant. This manifests in the everlasting New Beginning found in the Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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did you see this video yet Arune?

Thread: 12 Year Bohemian Grove Employee speaks out
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Not yet...I can't see youtubes at the moment but from the comments it sounds like there's not much to it?
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na..just the first part about being guiet...lol
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na..just the first part about being guiet...lol
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What's your take on it?
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7 14 2012 = 17 = 8
 Quoting: aether


8 is the number of salvation = The Harvest

It is a sign of God's covenant. This manifests in the everlasting New Beginning found in the Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Wake the fuck up church boy...resurrect some reading skills and find a suck it Jesus thread to peddle your veil amongst.
This here thread is about waking UP from history...not repeating it.

I think...the jury isn't selected on that one yet...LOL

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Brilliant!

Nice job OP

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Leslie Richard (Dick) Groves Jr. was born in Albany, New York, on 17 August 1896
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We are currently in the 2012th year of the sixth age. This age started during the reign of Gaius Octavius Caesar who by 33 years old had conquered most the world and restored relative peace on earth. It was at this time, Caesar proclaimed that all the Roman world should be taxed and he would also reconstitute the lawful priesthood into power of the Temple while he abolished all others. For these changes Gaius would be deemed by the priesthood as the successor to “Divus Iulius” (Latin for “Julius is God”) to become Divi Filius (Latin for the “Son of a God”).
 Quoting: HEYLEL


In remarkable agreement with the myths of other peoples, the Romans regarded Saturn as the model and source of cherished national customs. Tracing their ancestry and national identity to this very god-king, the chroniclers claimed that, in an earlier time, the Latins deemed themselves "Saturnians". "Be not unaware, Virgil writes, "that the Latins are Saturn's race, righteous not by bond or laws, but self-controlled of their own free will and by the custom of their ancient god."

Nothing symbolized this ancient tie to Saturn more dramatically than the mythical ancestry of kings. It was for a very clear purpose that the chroniclers exerted themselves on the subject, announcing that the early Latin kings were part of an unbroken line leading back through mythical history straight to the god-king Saturn. From the mythical king Latinus the line led upward to Faunus, then to Picus. As Virgil puts it, "Faunus' sire was Picus, and he boasts thee, O Saturn, as his father; thou art first founder of the line. To him by heaven's decree was no son or male descent, cut off..."

Since the line of descent was unbroken, Virgil could insist that Augustus Caesar himself be honored as the son of a god, destined to repeat the accomplishments of the founding king--

"Here is Caesar, and all Iulus' seed, destined to pass beneath the sky's mighty vault. This, this is he whom thou so oft hearest promised to thee, Augustus Caesar, son of a god, who shall again set up the Golden Age amid the fields where Saturn once reigned."

Just as we have observed among other peoples, Roman mythology preserved the myth of Saturn on two levels. On the one hand, there was the tradition of the celestial Saturn ruling in the sky. "When ancient Saturn had his kingdom in the sky," Virgil wrote, "the deep earth held lucre all in its dark embrace."

But the same god was also localized by the Romans as the legendary first king of Latium--a glaring contradiction the chroniclers overcame by asserting that, after the celestial ruler's exile or flight, he had taken up residence in Latium. "I remember how Saturn was received in this land," Ovid wrote. "He had been driven by Jupiter from the celestial realms. From that time the folk long retained the name of Saturnian."

At every level, the Roman memory of Saturn resonates with a global tradition of the Universal Monarch. In the very fashion we have observed in other lands, we see the god entering local history as the primeval founding king, ruling an ancestral kingdom. And with the same result: that the nation telling the story then claimed to have descended from the god-king himself.

The message couldn't be more clear. Long after the mythical age of the gods, every ancient culture continued to honor the great luminary remembered as the king of the world.
 Quoting: observation


has that been explained to you heyel?

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We are currently in the 2012th year of the sixth age. This age started during the reign of Gaius Octavius Caesar who by 33 years old had conquered most the world and restored relative peace on earth. It was at this time, Caesar proclaimed that all the Roman world should be taxed and he would also reconstitute the lawful priesthood into power of the Temple while he abolished all others. For these changes Gaius would be deemed by the priesthood as the successor to “Divus Iulius” (Latin for “Julius is God”) to become Divi Filius (Latin for the “Son of a God”).
 Quoting: HEYLEL


In remarkable agreement with the myths of other peoples, the Romans regarded Saturn as the model and source of cherished national customs. Tracing their ancestry and national identity to this very god-king, the chroniclers claimed that, in an earlier time, the Latins deemed themselves "Saturnians". "Be not unaware, Virgil writes, "that the Latins are Saturn's race, righteous not by bond or laws, but self-controlled of their own free will and by the custom of their ancient god."

Nothing symbolized this ancient tie to Saturn more dramatically than the mythical ancestry of kings. It was for a very clear purpose that the chroniclers exerted themselves on the subject, announcing that the early Latin kings were part of an unbroken line leading back through mythical history straight to the god-king Saturn. From the mythical king Latinus the line led upward to Faunus, then to Picus. As Virgil puts it, "Faunus' sire was Picus, and he boasts thee, O Saturn, as his father; thou art first founder of the line. To him by heaven's decree was no son or male descent, cut off..."

Since the line of descent was unbroken, Virgil could insist that Augustus Caesar himself be honored as the son of a god, destined to repeat the accomplishments of the founding king--

"Here is Caesar, and all Iulus' seed, destined to pass beneath the sky's mighty vault. This, this is he whom thou so oft hearest promised to thee, Augustus Caesar, son of a god, who shall again set up the Golden Age amid the fields where Saturn once reigned."

Just as we have observed among other peoples, Roman mythology preserved the myth of Saturn on two levels. On the one hand, there was the tradition of the celestial Saturn ruling in the sky. "When ancient Saturn had his kingdom in the sky," Virgil wrote, "the deep earth held lucre all in its dark embrace."

But the same god was also localized by the Romans as the legendary first king of Latium--a glaring contradiction the chroniclers overcame by asserting that, after the celestial ruler's exile or flight, he had taken up residence in Latium. "I remember how Saturn was received in this land," Ovid wrote. "He had been driven by Jupiter from the celestial realms. From that time the folk long retained the name of Saturnian."

At every level, the Roman memory of Saturn resonates with a global tradition of the Universal Monarch. In the very fashion we have observed in other lands, we see the god entering local history as the primeval founding king, ruling an ancestral kingdom. And with the same result: that the nation telling the story then claimed to have descended from the god-king himself.

The message couldn't be more clear. Long after the mythical age of the gods, every ancient culture continued to honor the great luminary remembered as the king of the world.
 Quoting: observation


has that been explained to you heyel?
 Quoting: aether


What, that Augustus Caesar is Jesus Christ and Grand Master of all secret societies under the rose of Pax Romana of this 6th age?

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no
that is a very young belief of much older knowing

go back many thousands of years before that age
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I AM no church boy and hold no fucking veil.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Have you seen yourself here yet?

In reality?

You get where this is going?

I AM no church boy and hold no fucking veil. The Jesus Christ of this 6th age is Gaius Octavian Augustus Caesar. Now suck that Peter biatch, lol.....


 Quoting: HEYLEL


MayBEE a case of this Christian is one bAd aSS truth telling mofo and I need to get um educated on what he speaks cause he will make me look foolish by eating my own profane words?
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Gotta go for now but I'll be back...please don't spam the thread with religious BS in the meantime...thanks!

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Never did and never would. Only truths and religion has much to do with that.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Funny how you come at me sideways Aruna and then now no one wants to debate or discuss HIS-STORY. Only YOUR-STORY which is not the way it goes.


 Quoting: HEYLEL


I AM no church boy and hold no fucking veil.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Have you seen yourself here yet?

In reality?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I see myself as a soul connected to the divine with a temporary body that will be dust someday soon. Everything I see with my 2 eyes are an illusion. The church is in my heart, the veil I AM already tearing down if that was not already quite obvious with my career, words and life for the last 7 years.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


no
that is a very young belief of much older knowing

go back many thousands of years before that age
 Quoting: aether


My destiny is to help finish this one and build anew. Not sure there is time for that unless you are going to tell me that those ages now supersede this one or the original plans.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


7 14 2012 = 17 = 8
 Quoting: aether


8 is the number of salvation = The Harvest

It is a sign of God's covenant. This manifests in the everlasting New Beginning found in the Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


8 = Octavian

As in Octavian Caesar

Octavian, the English form of " Octave "

octave is 8 - First Octave: New Beginnings: 8 = 1 x 7 + 1

In the Church of England the only festivals mentioned as having octaves are Christmas Day, Easter Day, Ascension,

The idea of the Octave manifests in a slightly different way in the Greek Alphanumeric correlation, which begins with Alpha = 1 and ends with Omega = 800.

The Number 8 integrates with the Number 66 - the value of the Wheel (Galgal) - to yield the Key to the Bible, as revealed in Isaiah 22.22:

And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.
 Quoting: HEYLEL

 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I edited out all your other posts because they were WAY outside what this thread is for...please don't be hurt feelings over it.

hf
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Gotta go for now but I'll be back...please don't spam the thread with religious BS in the meantime...thanks!

hf
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Aether, your description fits a fractal progression in which 'the divine' makes its way from a non-material 'golden age' energetic existence into a step by step descent towards personification.

lol

I just realized that. Maybe I did before but not as consciously as now.


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no
that is a very young belief of much older knowing

go back many thousands of years before that age
 Quoting: aether


My destiny is to help finish this one and build anew. Not sure there is time for that unless you are going to tell me that those ages now supersede this one or the original plans.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


no
i desired to ask and you have told
i have nothing more to say to you
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LOL...I yam how I yam...

Sorry for the slow replies...am at work and it's hella busy so it's hard to get into "debate the ignorant" mode...
And I suppose I can apologize for being in unfiltered mode...Christians need love too...

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LOL...I yam how I yam...

Sorry for the slow replies...am at work and it's hella busy so it's hard to get into "debate the ignorant" mode...
And I suppose I can apologize for being in unfiltered mode...Christians need love too...

peace
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


agent

What case are you working on now?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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What case are you working on now?
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'm in the Smile files...
Are you done with the religious nutter brief yet?

I'll need those notes like asap for the profile on church boy here...

chuckle
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For the Egyptians it was the creator-king Ra, for the Sumerians it was the high god An, from whom kingship descended. Similarly, the Hindu Brahma, the Chinese Huang-ti, Mexican Quetzalcoatl, Mayan Itzam Na and numerous counterparts among other nations, all preside over a paradisal epoch, while establishing the ideals and principles of kingship.

In Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, China, Greece, Italy, northern Europe, pre-Columbian Mexico and Central America--in fact, wherever the institution of kingship arose--the general rule is that royal genealogies lead back to this exemplary ruler, celebrated as the first in a sacred line of kings. The different myths recount in rich detail how the god built a great temple or city in primeval times, invented the alphabet, or taught a new language to a pre-literate race. They say it was he who invented the wheel, introduced the science of agriculture, instituted laws, and taught the true religion--in short, brought to a barbarous race all of the arts of civilization.

There is also a crucial connection here. This "ancestor-king" is so completely identified with the Golden Age that it is impossible to separate the one myth from the other. There is no Golden Age without a founding king, no founding king without a Golden Age.
 Quoting: observation


the quest
unknown to those at bohemian grove as we speak, the motivating origin of their gathering
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Will be coming back to this...

hmm It's a good question...

We are currently in the 2012th year of the sixth age. This age started during the reign of Gaius Octavius Caesar who by 33 years old had conquered most the world and restored relative peace on earth. It was at this time, Caesar proclaimed that all the Roman world should be taxed and he would also reconstitute the lawful priesthood into power of the Temple while he abolished all others. For these changes Gaius would be deemed by the priesthood as the successor to “Divus Iulius” (Latin for “Julius is God”) to become Divi Filius (Latin for the “Son of a God”).
 Quoting: HEYLEL


In remarkable agreement with the myths of other peoples, the Romans regarded Saturn as the model and source of cherished national customs. Tracing their ancestry and national identity to this very god-king, the chroniclers claimed that, in an earlier time, the Latins deemed themselves "Saturnians". "Be not unaware, Virgil writes, "that the Latins are Saturn's race, righteous not by bond or laws, but self-controlled of their own free will and by the custom of their ancient god."

Nothing symbolized this ancient tie to Saturn more dramatically than the mythical ancestry of kings. It was for a very clear purpose that the chroniclers exerted themselves on the subject, announcing that the early Latin kings were part of an unbroken line leading back through mythical history straight to the god-king Saturn. From the mythical king Latinus the line led upward to Faunus, then to Picus. As Virgil puts it, "Faunus' sire was Picus, and he boasts thee, O Saturn, as his father; thou art first founder of the line. To him by heaven's decree was no son or male descent, cut off..."

Since the line of descent was unbroken, Virgil could insist that Augustus Caesar himself be honored as the son of a god, destined to repeat the accomplishments of the founding king--

"Here is Caesar, and all Iulus' seed, destined to pass beneath the sky's mighty vault. This, this is he whom thou so oft hearest promised to thee, Augustus Caesar, son of a god, who shall again set up the Golden Age amid the fields where Saturn once reigned."

Just as we have observed among other peoples, Roman mythology preserved the myth of Saturn on two levels. On the one hand, there was the tradition of the celestial Saturn ruling in the sky. "When ancient Saturn had his kingdom in the sky," Virgil wrote, "the deep earth held lucre all in its dark embrace."

But the same god was also localized by the Romans as the legendary first king of Latium--a glaring contradiction the chroniclers overcame by asserting that, after the celestial ruler's exile or flight, he had taken up residence in Latium. "I remember how Saturn was received in this land," Ovid wrote. "He had been driven by Jupiter from the celestial realms. From that time the folk long retained the name of Saturnian."

At every level, the Roman memory of Saturn resonates with a global tradition of the Universal Monarch. In the very fashion we have observed in other lands, we see the god entering local history as the primeval founding king, ruling an ancestral kingdom. And with the same result: that the nation telling the story then claimed to have descended from the god-king himself.

The message couldn't be more clear. Long after the mythical age of the gods, every ancient culture continued to honor the great luminary remembered as the king of the world.
 Quoting: observation


has that been explained to you heyel?
 Quoting: aether


What, that Augustus Caesar is Jesus Christ and Grand Master of all secret societies under the rose of Pax Romana of this 6th age?
 Quoting: HEYLEL
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Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.[/Quote]

it possess a male personality (to jesus), it never promotes it`self but it does listen, understand and translate "all things" and says it in sequences of information understandable to humans

now we know motion = sound

so it tells what motion means as in

what the sequences of structures (shapes) mean and forms the meanings into sense
 Quoting: King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)


Helps to have an understanding of the structure of our universe to grasp something scaled up BIGGER than mankind created beliefs (singular planetary God made flesh)

For example:

Pulsar Wind Nebulae

Some so-called “neutron star pulsars” are said to create nebulae as they spin.

The standard model of stellar evolution proposes that pulsars are neutron stars rotating at incredible speed. For example, PSR J1748-2446ad, in the globular cluster Terzan 5, is reported to be spinning at almost 43,000 revolutions per minute (RPM). To put that rotational rate in perspective, the blades of a typical kitchen blender do not exceed 30,000 RPM.

Astronomers believe that a neutron star is born when a star with sufficient mass collapses at the end of its life cycle. Since the gravity of the star is so great, it cannot resist the forces that compress its electrons into the atomic nuclei that make up its structure. This means that it can become as small as a city block, but its substance can weigh 10^12 kilograms per milliliter. As the theory states, when the star contracts, angular momentum increases, resulting in rapid rotation.

The putative neutron star’s magnetic field becomes focused at each pole, creating a narrow beam of radio waves shining like the twin beams of a lighthouse. Conventional astronomers assume a large population of neutron stars in the Milky Way, so a population of pulsars must also exist.

Rather than relying on kinetic energy, Electric Universe advocates assume that the oscillations in pulsars are due to synchronous vibrations in electric circuits. Electricity stored in double layers is responsible for their energetic outbursts......................
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

you have to think about that

we are asked to believe some stars spins 43000 times per minute

now what i find interesting is these people are masters of our universe

they hold the attention of presidents and kings because they know exactly what our universe did less that 1 second after it, they tell us, formed from nothing

in knowing that they know how and why everything works thus know humanities destiny which they tell us is

a miserable death when our universe runs out of energy (motion) and is destroyed by it`s own existence

that is our masters of our universes god given story

 Quoting: aether


Which when you realize the absurdity of that it makes us question how much to "they" REALLY understand the REALITY of the structure of our universe??

In the past we are asked to trust the word of our humanity elect "authorities" (government, religious dieties(god etc) and those who "speak for them" etc) for information to explain the nature of our universe to us...

WHY?

When we can find out for ourselves...with no intermediaries...

We don't (as a species) seem to like it when others have answers we don't...especially when those answers can be used to control a population...

As soon as people find their own answers (by ways of finding out about the nature of our universe...by finding out firsthand/witness perspective)...

Nephesh

The Hebrew noun nephesh is a Biblical Hebrew word which occurs in the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). Although it is commonly rendered as "soul" in English translations, the word refers to the tangible aspects of life, and human beings and animals are both described as having a nephesh.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

tangible aspects of life

translates to feedback

oh

LOL
 Quoting: aether


We find all of a sudden a new self aware perception of the structure of our universe (that it is an intelligent environment) gives a purpose in living that has REAL MEANING...

a life experience that experiences experiences from life of real meaning
as in:
you discover by living
yes
living in a self aware environment (intelligent) hence the life experiences match/correspond to the intelligence of the possessor (person) who`s life is experiencing the experiences (feedback)

deism
 Quoting: aether


Once you realize the scale of that connection...(the one between you and all that is not you)...you find clarity.

you know
i just can`t imagine how that can confuse anyone
is it me
or is it not crystal clear
as written 2000 + years ago
 Quoting: aether


oh
but it never did confuse anyone,
it pissed people off

because the popular belief of our hebrews neighbors is planetary gods of flesh

and it pissed the neighbors off so much that our hebrews were continuously attacked for their belief to the point, after approx. 600 years they stopped openly practicing their beliefs

yes
tricky topic even today
 Quoting: aether


Which created the need for secrecy and hiding belief...encoding into mysteries...to practice in secret meant to keep some form of the truth alive. That we live in a universe NOT created by a singular deity....SO THAT ONE DAY AS A SPECIES WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL FOR...

morning blue, it is warmer and dry here today both of which have been missing in the uk

i was talking to salt last night
What exactly is the difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God?
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and discovered the spirit of god which jesus names, the spirit of truth
and jesus tells that this spirit will tell us the information he didn`t tell us because we were not in possession of enough information to understand him
 Quoting: aether

Morning Aether.....Glad the weather is better for you today. We sure could use some rain. In a drought :(

Maybe we will all be at stage soon. Where we will be ready to understand and able to understand, the big picture :)
 Quoting: Blue Skies


UNDERSTANDING...

Are you saying that they where pissed because a god should not be in flesh?
 Quoting: Blue Skies


it`s origin blue

It's amazing how frequently the earliest-remembered events occur on a mythscape of uncertain location. Where was the ancient paradise? Where did the gods and goddesses and heroes of the mythical epoch actually live? Beyond the north wind? Atop the world's highest mountain? In the land of the rising sun? On a lost island in the middle of the sea?

If anything has been proven by the flood of ancient texts that have come to light in the past hundred and fifty years, it is that the central personalities of myth did not, in the original concepts, dwell on earth. The theater in which the great mythical events were first played out was in the sky.

Here is an indisputable fact. If you will trace the claimed history of ancient nations backwards, you will invariably reach a point at which humankind lived in the shadow of the gods. This distant epoch--what the Egyptians called the "time of the primeval gods"--cries out for clarification. Originally, the gods rule the world. First in an age of gold, but this age was followed by catastrophe and cosmic upheaval. That is the archetypal memory repeated around the world.

In their first appearance, the gods are celestial through and through. As the stories are told and re-told across the centuries, however, these celestial powers are progressively localized, re-entering the chronicles in increasingly human guise. All of the profound cosmic events expressed in the earliest myths are eventually brought down to earth. Through each culture’s intimate identification with its own gods across the centuries, the cosmic powers eventually emerged as legendary ancestors of the nation telling the story.

Each of the nations recalling the Golden Age, for example, insisted that their own forefathers had descended from the gods. At first glance, this pervasive claim will appear as sheer arrogance, a nationalistic pride carried to absurd extremes. But the origins of the idea have never been adequately appreciated. In truth, the worldwide racial claim, that "we are descended from the gods," or that "our race was originally divine," or that "we were the favored children of the gods" offers a key to the primitive experience. It confirms early man's unqualified sense of connection to the enigmatic celestial powers so vividly portrayed in the myths. And one cannot afford to ignore the equally significant principle, that these celestial powers are no longer present, no longer visible and active in the world.
 Quoting: observation


all of the older cultures within the levant formed their belief of god(s) from physical entities they experienced in the sky above their heads

so

when people whom become known as hebrews resurrected the knowing that god is an invisible structure, the authorities of the societies the invisible god believers lived within were not happy

and

even when the invisible god believers left to live on their own they needed to occupy lands which the material god(s) believers occupied to do so
this started the conflicts

 Quoting: aether


the hebrews like early christians and muslims today believe that god, being invisible by nature, never does become flesh, thus becoming visible

the main reason for their being so adamant about this is that to them, as soon as you believe god becomes material, you are forced to worship that which is material (mammon)

today we have the same conflicts with cern denying the existence of reality that is not caused by material motion

materiaism
 Quoting: aether


The REALITY is that we are not meant to worship material...it is SECONDARY to the nonmaterial dimensions...where the spirit of truth is...for all.


The Great Spirit or Great Mystery is generally believed to be personal, close to the people, and immanent in the fabric of the material world
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the mound builders of america express it well
 Quoting: aether


Immanence

Immanence refers to philosophical and metaphysical theories of divine presence, in which the divine is seen to be manifested in or encompassing the material world.
 Quoting: observation

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the god of flesh planetary god believers reduced everything to 1
a single 1 location/point
a single physical god (1)

so instead of god being in all things god become a material something , somewhere
and
from this location the one god effected all things whilst never being that which it effected
god was removed from reality and placed in an imagined reality
the place no one gets to know
but
according to planet god believers
this god does on occasion become human
hence our tradition of many forms of god man titles from our past leaders
like julius caesar for example
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i remember when this arose on your st Louis thread
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Yeah, nobody really said anything about it when I posted it , it's hard to make heads or tails of it
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i think you have made sense of it
it being one of a number of symbols you used to see a bigger picture of connectivity incorporating the realization that reality expressed in human social expression matches symbol and sign by design
and
what you are discovering is the origin of the design
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and if you have not already confirmed to yourself you will confirm the following
no matter the station of a person whom recognizes the symbol and sign by design, they will never know the origin of the design
in fact those whose station permits decision of the origin of symbol and sign by design admit freely it was always there when they become aware
so
the good news is
in our era of discovery, the origin of design is known to those whom know the meaning of our recent discoveries
and
those whom know first are those furthest from the belief of tradition
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and if you have not already confirmed to yourself you will confirm the following
no matter the station of a person whom recognizes the symbol and sign by design, they will never know the origin of the design
in fact those whose station permits decision of the origin of symbol and sign by design admit freely it was always there when they become aware
so
the good news is
in our era of discovery, the origin of design is known to those whom know the meaning of our recent discoveries
and
those whom know first are those furthest from the belief of tradition
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GREAT post!
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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and if you have not already confirmed to yourself you will confirm the following
no matter the station of a person whom recognizes the symbol and sign by design, they will never know the origin of the design
in fact those whose station permits decision of the origin of symbol and sign by design admit freely it was always there when they become aware
so
the good news is
in our era of discovery, the origin of design is known to those whom know the meaning of our recent discoveries
and
those whom know first are those furthest from the belief of tradition
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GREAT post!
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I actually thoth it was terrible. But hey, who AM I???
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and if you have not already confirmed to yourself you will confirm the following
no matter the station of a person whom recognizes the symbol and sign by design, they will never know the origin of the design
in fact those whose station permits decision of the origin of symbol and sign by design admit freely it was always there when they become aware
so
the good news is
in our era of discovery, the origin of design is known to those whom know the meaning of our recent discoveries
and
those whom know first are those furthest from the belief of tradition
 Quoting: aether



GREAT post!
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I actually thoth it was terrible. But hey, who AM I???
 Quoting: HEYLEL


lmao

Probably looking at it from completely different perspectives.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Aren't we all...
grinning
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My perspective was that many of these symbols were left by our ancestors to remind and activate us (their children) of their purpose. But yes, depending on your soul and DNA, all symbols and words are open to interpretation. This will be either be based on false ideologies through false teachings or truth seeking via preprogrammed truth in each of our own DNA that to each one of us is truly unique. Our "knowing" depends on our soul development, knowledge, wisdom, Gnosis and Haplogroup. That is what makes each one os us truly unique and special in our own birth rites.

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Cremation of Care

The dramatic performance is presented on the first night of the annual encampment as an allegorical banishing of worldly cares for the club members, and "to present symbolically the salvation of the trees by the club"
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i like that
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My perspective was that many of these symbols were left by our ancestors to remind and activate us (their children) of their purpose. But yes, depending on your soul and DNA, all symbols and words are open to interpretation. This will be either be based on false ideologies through false teachings or truth seeking via preprogrammed truth in each of our own DNA that to each one of us is truly unique. Our "knowing" depends on our soul development, knowledge, wisdom, Gnosis and Haplogroup. That is what makes each one os us truly unique and special in our own birth rites.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Heylel, I do appreciate your sharing your perspective. Each one of us IS truly unique...which is why I think it's important for people to know who they are. It's an important factor in really taking responsibility for the life one lives...due to their own merits...not because they are some reincarnated king or carry the bloodline of someone important in mankinds historical records.


Thread: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..."


Cause and Effect

The law of cause and effect always works. When anything goes wrong with you or with the world, your are or humanity in general is responsible, not God. ... God’s doing God’s part is what Creation or the outworking of cosmic law means. Therefore, instead of asking God to fulfil God’s part, attain knowledge of cosmic law so that you can harmoniously work with God to fulfil your desire. Anything that is wrong with you is of your own making; therefore, gain knowledge of the cause and of cosmic law.

people who ask God for fulfilment of their desires forget that material things are created only through two-way action. Material things are not created by rubbing an Aladdin lamp or through wishful thinking. They are created through balanced action and reaction.

(Walter and Lao Russell, Home Study Course in Cosmic Consciousness, Unit 7, Lesson 28)
[link to www.walter-russell.org]
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Cremation of Care

The dramatic performance is presented on the first night of the annual encampment as an allegorical banishing of worldly cares for the club members, and "to present symbolically the salvation of the trees by the club"
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 Quoting: aether


That quote is from the book The Bohemian jinks: a treatise
~written by Porter Garnett.

On page 25 it says:

These features-Care and his destroyer-are held by some to be an ill -advised adherence to tradition, restrictive in its effect upon creative impulse, and inimical to artistic expansion and progress. On the other hand it is urged that these restrictions are a challenge to the ingenuity and artistry of the poet. There is abundant precedent for the imposing of restrictions upon artists. Artists, in fact, are disposed to impose restrictions upon themselves. Poets in all periods have lent their highest powers to the glorification of some princely patron.

Were all such carmina votiva destroyed the world would lose some of the greatest works of literature. Be this as it may, the motives of Care and his destroyer remain integral parts of the grove play.
 Quoting: Porter Garnett


The creamation of care ceremony is about protecting the grove...and via protecting the grove, it was their hopes to protect literary and artistic works which ARE the foundation for humanity keeping it's humanity.

(Because those works result in creation in the nonmaterial which does create in the material? still working on that part...not sure how it's done just yet.)

But basically it's like symbolism for protecting the purity of that process, or the truth about it?

Still wondering on that one...
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My perspective was that many of these symbols were left by our ancestors to remind and activate us (their children) of their purpose. But yes, depending on your soul and DNA, all symbols and words are open to interpretation. This will be either be based on false ideologies through false teachings or truth seeking via preprogrammed truth in each of our own DNA that to each one of us is truly unique. Our "knowing" depends on our soul development, knowledge, wisdom, Gnosis and Haplogroup. That is what makes each one os us truly unique and special in our own birth rites.
 Quoting: HEYLEL


Heylel, I do appreciate your sharing your perspective. Each one of us IS truly unique...which is why I think it's important for people to know who they are. It's an important factor in really taking responsibility for the life one lives...due to their own merits...not because they are some reincarnated king or carry the bloodline of someone important in mankinds historical records.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Thread: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..."

Cause and Effect

The law of cause and effect always works. When anything goes wrong with you or with the world, your are or humanity in general is responsible, not God. ... God’s doing God’s part is what Creation or the outworking of cosmic law means. Therefore, instead of asking God to fulfil God’s part, attain knowledge of cosmic law so that you can harmoniously work with God to fulfil your desire. Anything that is wrong with you is of your own making; therefore, gain knowledge of the cause and of cosmic law.

people who ask God for fulfilment of their desires forget that material things are created only through two-way action. Material things are not created by rubbing an Aladdin lamp or through wishful thinking. They are created through balanced action and reaction.

(Walter and Lao Russell, Home Study Course in Cosmic Consciousness, Unit 7, Lesson 28)
[link to www.walter-russell.org]
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals

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Thanks Aruna. Yes, depending if you are reincarnated King, Knight or Pleb makes no difference in the fact that we are all unique and special via our birth rites.

However, with that said, the facts are that a reincarnated King as a pleb in modern day society can do more for the ancient pleb reincarnated as a pleb today in 2012 in reaching the current Kings or TPTB. Hence, only a foolish pleb would think that they are more special than a reincarnated king in the "grand royal scheme" of things. Because they are a pleb just like the other plebs but with royal blood, DNA, rites and the means to place an end to the CHAO we all despise.

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