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Big Drop On TimeWave Zero Tomorrow July 12th

 
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I'm not that all familiar with the whole timewave zero thing but this isn't the worse doom prediction thread ever on here so I'll play along for curiosities sake
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There is a free program you can download from the interwebz for timewave zero graph's.

I don't know where to find it off hand.
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Thread: Timewave Zero Software
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thanks, is this a computer program based theory on some kind of algorithym/s?
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It is based on the algorithms of the Chinese calender. And everything can be followed back through history with this graph. And of course it ends(plummets) at 12212012. Basically a drop in the graph signifying a noticeable change. The bigger the drop, the more drastic and large the occurrence in our history. All documented and proven that this graph goes right along with history, and the big drops signifying a large historical event in history. So the question is, will we see something big tomorrow? We shall see. BTW it is based on North American time. So no its not the 12th yet.
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[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]


"The principal device of the Timewave Zero theory is a fractal function (constructed using numerical values derived from the King Wen Sequence of I Ching hexagrams) which maps time onto 'novelty'. This theory was developed by Terence McKenna (1946-2000) from the early 1970s to the late 1990s, and was first described by him in the book The Invisible Landscape (1974), written with his brother Dennis. This theory follows from."
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]


"The principal device of the Timewave Zero theory is a fractal function (constructed using numerical values derived from the King Wen Sequence of I Ching hexagrams) which maps time onto 'novelty'. This theory was developed by Terence McKenna (1946-2000) from the early 1970s to the late 1990s, and was first described by him in the book The Invisible Landscape (1974), written with his brother Dennis. This theory follows from."
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"During 1986-1999 Peter Meyer developed software to illustrate and explore the theory of Timewave Zero. He developed this software in collaboration with Terence McKenna, and had many discussions with him during 1986-1994 about the theory. It was first developed as Apple //e software and later (in 1989) ported to MS-DOS. In its final form, Fractal Time (version 7.10), this software runs under Windows. It is now available on CD-ROM, along with over twenty articles concerning Timewave Zero and related subjects.

There is a large amount of misinformation on the web concerning Timewave Zero. This CD-ROM is the primary and most complete source for accurate and reliable information on this subject. Any claim made on any website about Timewave Zero which is not supported by what is on this CD-ROM is probably not true."
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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I found this through the other site and started reading it. Just thought i would share it also:)

[link to timewave.wordpress.com]

"We are on the brink of possibilities that will make us literally unrecognizable to ourselves and those possibilities will be realized, not in the next thousand years but in the next 20 years because the acceleration of invention and novelty and information transfer is at this point so rapid…



"Timewave Zero is an exploratory idea system and a software package that runs on personal computers. It is the broadcast output of the naturally superconducting experimentaldeoxyribonucleic matrix transceiver operating in hyperspace. We believe that by using such ideas as a compass for the collectivity, we may find our way back to a new model in time to reverse the progressive worldwide alienation that is fast hurling us into an ecocidal planetary crisis. A model of time must give hope and overcome entropy in its formal composition. In other words, it must mathematically secure the reasonableness of hope. This theory, and indeed the mathematical theory of dynamic systems generally does this by securing in a formal manner the process by which transformation can naturally arise and persist out of a background of flux. It becomes increasingly clear that we are now experiencing a period marked with extreme density of novel ingressions, a time when the rational and acausal tendencies inherent in time may again reverse their positions of dominance."
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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There is a free program you can download from the interwebz for timewave zero graph's.

I don't know where to find it off hand.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Thread: Timewave Zero Software
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


thanks, is this a computer program based theory on some kind of algorithym/s?
 Quoting: godzilla85


It is based on the algorithms of the Chinese calender. And everything can be followed back through history with this graph. And of course it ends(plummets) at 12212012. Basically a drop in the graph signifying a noticeable change. The bigger the drop, the more drastic and large the occurrence in our history. All documented and proven that this graph goes right along with history, and the big drops signifying a large historical event in history. So the question is, will we see something big tomorrow? We shall see. BTW it is based on North American time. So no its not the 12th yet.
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thank you for the explanation. I'm going to go with something financial related being that Europe is having it's troubles, that or something goes down in Syria/Iran. Then again it's been a while since a big earthquake has hit a large population center too
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I've never noticed any special correlation with events to time-wave zero so far, but any or no excuse whatsoever for doom is good enough for me, so I'm game for doom tomorrow, just so long as people report to this thread if any doom should happen.

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These graphs only have one axis labeled. High and low. But what's the other axis? Ya, a one month picture of high and low - of what?? It is not labeled
I teach my second grade students that a graph means nothing unless both x and y are defined. Pretty lines otherwise. Do better than this!!!!Please if you have a point make it.
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You know,I really want to believe TimeWave Zero is the real deal,but I never really see anything that correlates to the dips.

Let's wait and see.
free your inner baboon.
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These graphs only have one axis labeled. High and low. But what's the other axis? Ya, a one month picture of high and low - of what?? It is not labeled
I teach my second grade students that a graph means nothing unless both x and y are defined. Pretty lines otherwise. Do better than this!!!!Please if you have a point make it.
A friend indeed.cool2
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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You know,I really want to believe TimeWave Zero is the real deal,but I never really see anything that correlates to the dips.

Let's wait and see.
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well at least whoever invented it is trying to apply some kind of science to it so I can't fault that. It's not like the stoners that come in everday saying stuff is going to happen and then take off without explaining themselves or even admitting they are wrong when nothing happens.
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Okay, help me understand what this time line means. I will let you know what happens on Sept 16, 2012. It begins the Feast of Trumpets, the day that many believes will be the return of Jesus. I'm checking on the other date.
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my guess is a false flag because of this hitting mainstream:
Thread: A scandal over rate-fixing is about to hit the US. MSNBC, July 11

biggest fraud ever
every person/business/city/town/government who has had any kind of loan, investment, anything to do with interest rates, has likely been defrauded
HUGE STORY THERE
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Maybe but think about it....the rates were artificially low because risk premiums were understated. That means rates consumers paid on debt were actually lower than they should have been when pegged to libor or any other rates that get impicated in the supposed scam. Consumers were on the right side of this for once.
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For those wanting to know more:


Terence McKenna - December 21st, 2012 - Timewave Zero

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Fractal Time software a.k.a. Timewave Zero ( by Peter Meyer, from Hermetic Systems: [link to www.hermetic.ch] )

This software illustrates a theory of time, history and the end of history as first described in the book The Invisible Landscape by Terence and Dennis McKenna. As related by Terence McKenna in his book True Hallucinations, the theory of Timewave Zero was revealed to him in the wake of an unusual psychedelic experiment conducted deep in the Amazon jungle in Colombia in 1971, which led to his being instructed in certain transformations of numbers, derived from the King Wen Sequence of I Ching hexagrams, relating to the occurrence of temporal phenomena. This led eventually to a mathematical description of "the timewave", which allegedly correlates time and history with the ebb and flow of something called Novelty, claimed to be a quality intrinsic to the temporal structure of the universe.

A peculiarity of this correlation is that at a certain point a singularity is reached which is the end of history ? or at least a transition to a supra-historical order in which our ordinary conceptions of reality will be radically transformed. The date of this point was chosen by McKenna to be December 21, 2012, the date of the winter solstice of that year and also the end of the current era of 13 baktuns in the Maya Calendar (according to the Goodman-Martinez-Thompson correlation 584,283).

A remarkable quality of the timewave is that it is a fractal (although this was not fully revealed until the late 1980s). Once a part of the wave is displayed the software allows you to expand any smaller part. This usually reveals a complexity of structure which persists however much the wave is magnified, a property typical of fractals. The idea that time has a fractal structure (in contrast to the Newtonian conception of time as pure, unstructured, duration) was first proposed by Terence McKenna. It is certainly an intriguing idea worthy of further consideration by physicists.

An interesting part of the theory of Timewave Zero is the notion of historical periods "in resonance" with each other, in which the events of the earlier period are in some sense repeated in the later. The software permits graphical display of different regions of the timewave that are in resonance with each other, and includes the ability to graph the so-called trigrammatic resonances in addition to the major resonances. This Fractal Time software thus permits a proper examination of Terence McKenna's claim to have discovered a property of time in terms of which historical phenomena can be explained and even predicted.

( You can order your own copy of Fractal Time software (Version 7.10) from: [link to www.hermetic.ch] )


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Timewave Zero ( text from [link to fusionanomaly.net] )

Terence McKenna's software plotting the fractals of "novelty" over many thousands of years of earth's history, up to 2012 C.E., at which point novelty will reach the state of infinite fulmination. He defines novelty, of course, as "the density of connectedness" or the "degree of complexity." The I Ching says that Time is a series of identifiable elements in flux. There are 64 of these "elements." He also believes that what we today call the I Ching is but a tiny fragment of a once immense device, now forever lost.

Looking at the I Ching from a quantum physics perspective, Terence and his brother Dennis discovered a wave pattern in the ordering of the Tarot's trigrams and hexagrams that suggested time could be mapped. One of the oldest "structured abstractions" known, the I Ching has been found scratched on the 6,000 year-old shoulder bone of a sheep. Since the I Ching is particularly concerned with the dynamic relationships and transformations that archetypes undergo, McKenna intuited that the I Ching must also be deeply involved with the nature of time as the necessary condition for the manifestation of archetypes as categories of experience.

Centering his attention on examining the King Wen sequence of sixty four hexagrams, McKenna's search for the ordering principles that lay behind it managed to translate what was essentially a mystical diagram into a rationally apprehensible, mathematical model. Working with Peter Meyer, McKenna developed a personal computer software package that takes his discoveries concerning the I Ching and creates time maps based upon them. These time maps, or novelty maps, show the ebb an flow of connectedness, or novelty, in any span of time from a few days to tens of millennia.

In McKenna's novelty map, when the graph line moves downward, novelty is assumed to be increasing. When there is movement away from the base line, novelty is assumed to be decreasing in favor of habitual forms of activity. According to this graph, one trend toward greater novelty reached its culmination around 2700 B.C., precisely at the height of the Old Kingdom pyramid-building phase. Perhaps most remarkable of all McKenna's discoveries was the fact that the only point in the entire wave that has a quantified value of zero is December 21, 2012 A.D. -- the same date that has been interpreted as the Mayan Calendar's end of time.

The Timewave zero model shows the past 1,500 years to have been highly novel times that have oscillated at levels of novelty very close to the horizontal axis, the maximized "zero state." When the zero point is reached, the wave passes out of the past and into the future. We are approaching a point, says McKenna, "when the rational and acausal tendencies inherent in time may again reverse their positions of dominance."

McKenna views history, with it's hunger for completion, as "an anomaly... a complete fluke," in which "all ideas of salvation, enlightenment, or utopia may be taken to be expressions in consciousness of the drive of energy to free itself from the limitations of three-dimensional space." As history races toward it's denouement, evolution is carried out of strictly biological confines and into the mental realm where language and other abstractions begin to pull us together toward "a complex attractor that exists ahead of us in time." This"concrescence," says McKenna is now so close that it can be felt in the sense of accelerating time and complexity.

McKenna discusses the repercussions of our collective approach to Timewave Zero and how psychedelics can be used to condition ourselves for our upcoming move into of the body of eternity and out of three-dimensional time and space.

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Well, who was it? Oscar Wilde, or somebody said, "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." Reality is inherently paradoxical.

And the beginning of intellectual maturity is to be able to simultaneously hold two contradictory ideas in your mind at the same time. People ask me if I believe in the 2012 prediction. I don't believe in anything. My anti-ideological stance makes it very important to believe nothing. I regard Timewave Zero as a fascinating model of a previously unmodelled system - which is human history. The fact that it seems to deliver interesting data... for instance, I predicted a very deep plunge into novelty this past summer. Just as it was at its deepest, the Martian meteorite chock full of fossils arrived - along with a lot of email demanding to know where was the miracle I had predicted. [laughter] I like the word models. What we're trying to do is build models. By saying the word 'models', we make it very clear that this is not 'Truth', and that there will be a better model, and we'll swap the old for the new. So at the moment Timewave Zero is simply a better model of history than the idea that there is no model at all, which is what's taught in the Academy. The definition of history, if you study history in the Academy, is: it's a trendlessly fluctuating process. If true, it's the only trendlessly fluctuating process ever to be observed in this universe. So obviously it's not true, it's just that we lack a model. So people say... like, Toynbee's model was that 'God is waiting', somebody else had a 'Great Man' model, Marx believed it was all driven by class struggle, and Freud that it was all libido. Well, these are just opinions. Those aren't theories, those are opinions. A theory has an ability to make predictions, and refine itself, so that's what I offer with Timewave Zero.

- Terence McKenna
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Something big is going to happen;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

After this, an even bigger drop takes place on September 16th;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]
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First I've heard of this time wave zero stuff. Went to the site and there was a drop back around 26-27th of January 2012 but nothing happened then. How do you know what one to look out for?
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So, do we know what the historical resonances are for tomorrow?
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Something big is going to happen;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

After this, an even bigger drop takes place on September 16th;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]
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First I've heard of this time wave zero stuff. Went to the site and there was a drop back around 26-27th of January 2012 but nothing happened then. How do you know what one to look out for?
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Yeah, and there was a big drop a few weeks ago followed on GLP and nothing very special happened, it seemed, unless as someone noted, some seemingly minor event was in fact truly important.

Who do we humans and historians and disinfo ops think we are after all to presume to know what is really important in terms of an event, and what is not.

It's cool. At least ya'll be on your toes tomorrow, right?

(OP, I suggest you change the name of your thread tomorrow to say "today", not "tomorrow". There will probably be copy-cat threads anyhow.)

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Something big is going to happen;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

After this, an even bigger drop takes place on September 16th;

[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252631


First I've heard of this time wave zero stuff. Went to the site and there was a drop back around 26-27th of January 2012 but nothing happened then. How do you know what one to look out for?
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Yeah, and there was a big drop a few weeks ago followed on GLP and nothing very special happened, it seemed, unless as someone noted, some seemingly minor event was in fact truly important.

Who do we humans and historians and disinfo ops think we are after all to presume to know what is really important in terms of an event, and what is not.

It's cool. At least ya'll be on your toes tomorrow, right?
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and a thunder storm outta no where just started! creepy, house shook as I'm typing ahhh lolol
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I'm not that all familiar with the whole timewave zero thing but this isn't the worse doom prediction thread ever on here so I'll play along for curiosities sake
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There is a free program you can download from the interwebz for timewave zero graph's.

I don't know where to find it off hand.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Thread: Timewave Zero Software
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


thanks, is this a computer program based theory on some kind of algorithym/s?
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Yes, based on Terrance McKinna's I-Ching-corresponds-to-Mayan-2012-end findings that can be put on a Gregorian calendar. Big drops = Big changes. Big changes = doomish.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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thank you for the explanation. I'm going to go with something financial related being that Europe is having it's troubles, that or something goes down in Syria/Iran. Then again it's been a while since a big earthquake has hit a large population center too
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Thread: Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero, the Stock Market Crash and what to expect as we near 2012

Thread: >>>> MARKETS vs. TIMEWAVE ZERO

popcorn

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September 16, 2012 Rosh Hashana
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Massive earthquake in California.

Bye bye Miss American pie...
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Lets get the show on the road.....
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Thread: EARTHQUAKE WATCH for within 48 hours through July 13!
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And take a look at this

[link to www.haarpstatus.com]


Have not had the time to do enough research to know if this site is legit -- or accurate. But it is interesting...
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And tomorrow when nothing happens we can officially disprove time wave zero theory?
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Thread: Will TimeWave Zero Bring DOOM or Die On July 12 ?!?
posted 7\5 has some good links that coincide I personally think it's garbage but I have been watching it

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And tomorrow when nothing happens we can officially disprove time wave zero theory?
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Yeah I think we can :D
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Zero anything big will happen....

Bet me...

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i will take the other side of that bet, madmacs...
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I'm glad that once 12/21/2012 comes and goes we won't have to hear about the timewave zero theory anymore, it is such bollocks. Have any of you actually READ mckenna's books, and the description of how he came up with the shape of the timewave?

He basically took the hexagrams in the i-ching, noticed how they made a pattern when laid out side-by-side. He then took this pattern and made a graph out of it. He then overlaid a MIRROR IMAGE of the same pattern on the graph, because he noticed that they (sort of) match at the beginning and end. He then repeated this pattern six times. He then used a computer program to average all the peaks and valleys of the over-laid patterns. This resulting averaged graph he called the timewave. Fair enough, EXCEPT he had no way of knowing when to start or end the wave. So, he arbitrarily picked the date of the Hiroshima bombing as the start of the latest and final wave harmonic, since he felt it was the event of "highest novelty" in the 20th century. Based on this date, the wave would end in mid-November of 2012. When he learned about the Mayan prophecies, he arbitrarily moved the end date to match it!

Sound confusing? Sound like total pseudo-science? Yes, I think so too. Think I'm exaggerating? You can read a more in-depth explanation here:

[link to www.viewzone.com]

Anyway, see you on 12/22/2012, hippies!

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