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Yet another lame video posted as ABSOLUTE TRUTH of so-called chemtrails.

 
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It's what you people do.... LOL.
OP is an idiot or a shill... By guess is both.


It's actually what "you do".
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Sorry guy...

if YOU believe in the chemtrail hoax, frankly you're to ignorant to converse with.
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DEATH TO THE TRAITORS
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What a pleasant person YOU are!
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And youre literally a faggot, thats why they use you. easy to control, easy to break.
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Sorry guy...

if YOU believe in the chemtrail hoax, frankly you're to ignorant to converse with.
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DEATH TO THE TRAITORS
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What a pleasant person YOU are!
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And youre literally a faggot, thats why they use you. easy to control, easy to break.
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And then there are people like you who can't debate intelligently and you go straight for the personal attack.

What a NOBLE person YOU are.
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No...

in day to day commercial operations you do not screw with the fuel formulations, military either.

You don't just start running finely divided particles of metal through an engine with temperatures that cause said metals to coat or plate internal parts.

It simply isn't done.
 Quoting: G. House


So if you introduce the metal particulate into the exhaust stream past the moving engine parts and any area which could cause coating or corrosion . . . one could expect the same observations. . .
 Quoting: George B


Why would you go through that trouble if the friggen soot from the normal fuel would give the same result?

The actual amount of soot produced is an extremely small percentage of the total fuel weight.

The contrails are formed at certain saturations of moisture in the air at -40 degrees.

Besides the standard chemtard claim is that the aluminum and barium is what makes the trails.

Now YOU seem to be saying it ice crystals?
 Quoting: G. House

Visibility is a coincidental consequence possibly of aerosol injection . . . it is not the ultimate goal . . . so whether visible for a few seconds, minutes, or hours is not the purpose . . . If you dump aerosols at 36,000 feet or higher you expect the particulate to remain suspended for months or years . . .
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OK,

so they are invisible too?

What a fucking BULLSHIT ARTIST you are.
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Atmospheric Analysis:  If Chemtrails EXIST they must have a purpose  . . . There are several speculative suggestions; however, I want through a logical process suggest the following:

1. The altitude that an aerosol is injected into the atmosphere determines its mission. . . .determines the area affected and therefore, the strategy and the scope of the people and/or agencies  involved . . . 

2. The altitude determines the airframe used and therefore the relative transportation cost of the effort . . . as long as we know the frequency of flights  . . . 

  A. If the flights are in the stratosphere, the mission is to suspend aerosols in the atmosphere as long as possible and to affect an entire hemisphere or the entire globe for some purpose . . . 

      Suggested missions:
        
        1) Altering the Albedo of the Earth . . . Reflecting short wave radiation back into space. . . .reducing the visible light reaching the surface . . . Promoting Global Dimming 
        2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy  . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . . 

   B. If the flights are below the stratosphere the target is likely to be a much more localized mission and . . .  the aerosols are expected to fall to the ground within minutes, hours or days  . . . Targeting Continents, Countries, Regions, Cities, Neighborhoods, etc. . . The higher the flights below the tropopause the larger the area targeted . . . As a crop duster only flies a few hundred feet in the air. . . To dust a few hundred acres . . .  chaff can be injected at several thousand feet to cover a state size area or corridor to cover combat air operations  . . . Weather modification would also target similar altitudes to target optimal areas within the troposphere. . . . 
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Still say, I've made one of the best Chem-trails video on You Tube.

'Chem-trails Over Arizona'

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Atmospheric Analysis:  If Chemtrails EXIST they must have a purpose  . . . There are several speculative suggestions; however, I want through a logical process suggest the following:

1. The altitude that an aerosol is injected into the atmosphere determines its mission. . . .determines the area affected and therefore, the strategy and the scope of the people and/or agencies  involved . . . 

2. The altitude determines the airframe used and therefore the relative transportation cost of the effort . . . as long as we know the frequency of flights  . . . 

  A. If the flights are in the stratosphere, the mission is to suspend aerosols in the atmosphere as long as possible and to affect an entire hemisphere or the entire globe for some purpose . . . 

      Suggested missions:
        
        1) Altering the Albedo of the Earth . . . Reflecting short wave radiation back into space. . . .reducing the visible light reaching the surface . . . Promoting Global Dimming 
        2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy  . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . . 

   B. If the flights are below the stratosphere the target is likely to be a much more localized mission and . . .  the aerosols are expected to fall to the ground within minutes, hours or days  . . . Targeting Continents, Countries, Regions, Cities, Neighborhoods, etc. . . The higher the flights below the tropopause the larger the area targeted . . . As a crop duster only flies a few hundred feet in the air. . . To dust a few hundred acres . . .  chaff can be injected at several thousand feet to cover a state size area or corridor to cover combat air operations  . . . Weather modification would also target similar altitudes to target optimal areas within the troposphere. . . . 
 Quoting: George B


George, George, George...

You have now gone so far from the original premise of chemtrails namely that ALL persistent contrails are in fact chemtrails and they were never seen before the 90's.

That's a baldfaced fucking lie as I remember seeing them as a kid, a contrail that would stretch from horizon to horizon in 1959. Persistent contrails in fact have been observed, documented and discussed from the very early days of high altitude flight.

Funny we don't see all that supposed barium and aluminum on all the weather radars. It would stick out like a sore thumb.

So we are breathing all this barium?

That would cause outbreaks of baritosis. An affliction that stands out like a sore thumb in ANY chest x-ray.
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Atmospheric Analysis:  If Chemtrails EXIST they must have a purpose  . . . There are several speculative suggestions; however, I want through a logical process suggest the following:

1. The altitude that an aerosol is injected into the atmosphere determines its mission. . . .determines the area affected and therefore, the strategy and the scope of the people and/or agencies  involved . . . 

2. The altitude determines the airframe used and therefore the relative transportation cost of the effort . . . as long as we know the frequency of flights  . . . 

  A. If the flights are in the stratosphere, the mission is to suspend aerosols in the atmosphere as long as possible and to affect an entire hemisphere or the entire globe for some purpose . . . 

      Suggested missions:
        
        1) Altering the Albedo of the Earth . . . Reflecting short wave radiation back into space. . . .reducing the visible light reaching the surface . . . Promoting Global Dimming 
        2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy  . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . . 

   B. If the flights are below the stratosphere the target is likely to be a much more localized mission and . . .  the aerosols are expected to fall to the ground within minutes, hours or days  . . . Targeting Continents, Countries, Regions, Cities, Neighborhoods, etc. . . The higher the flights below the tropopause the larger the area targeted . . . As a crop duster only flies a few hundred feet in the air. . . To dust a few hundred acres . . .  chaff can be injected at several thousand feet to cover a state size area or corridor to cover combat air operations  . . . Weather modification would also target similar altitudes to target optimal areas within the troposphere. . . . 
 Quoting: George B


George, George, George...

You have now gone so far from the original premise of chemtrails namely that ALL persistent contrails are in fact chemtrails and they were never seen before the 90's.

That's a baldfaced fucking lie as I remember seeing them as a kid, a contrail that would stretch from horizon to horizon in 1959. Persistent contrails in fact have been observed, documented and discussed from the very early days of high altitude flight.

Funny we don't see all that supposed barium and aluminum on all the weather radars. It would stick out like a sore thumb.

So we are breathing all this barium?

That would cause outbreaks of baritosis. An affliction that stands out like a sore thumb in ANY chest x-ray.
 Quoting: G. House

It is not my premise nor was it ever . . . Also, the concentration of particulate could meet mission requirements and never show up on radar . . .

Last Edited by George B on 07/11/2012 11:15 PM
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Atmospheric Analysis:  If Chemtrails EXIST they must have a purpose  . . . There are several speculative suggestions; however, I want through a logical process suggest the following:

1. The altitude that an aerosol is injected into the atmosphere determines its mission. . . .determines the area affected and therefore, the strategy and the scope of the people and/or agencies  involved . . . 

2. The altitude determines the airframe used and therefore the relative transportation cost of the effort . . . as long as we know the frequency of flights  . . . 

  A. If the flights are in the stratosphere, the mission is to suspend aerosols in the atmosphere as long as possible and to affect an entire hemisphere or the entire globe for some purpose . . . 

      Suggested missions:
        
        1) Altering the Albedo of the Earth . . . Reflecting short wave radiation back into space. . . .reducing the visible light reaching the surface . . . Promoting Global Dimming 
        2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy  . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . . 

   B. If the flights are below the stratosphere the target is likely to be a much more localized mission and . . .  the aerosols are expected to fall to the ground within minutes, hours or days  . . . Targeting Continents, Countries, Regions, Cities, Neighborhoods, etc. . . The higher the flights below the tropopause the larger the area targeted . . . As a crop duster only flies a few hundred feet in the air. . . To dust a few hundred acres . . .  chaff can be injected at several thousand feet to cover a state size area or corridor to cover combat air operations  . . . Weather modification would also target similar altitudes to target optimal areas within the troposphere. . . . 
 Quoting: George B


George, George, George...

You have now gone so far from the original premise of chemtrails namely that ALL persistent contrails are in fact chemtrails and they were never seen before the 90's.

That's a baldfaced fucking lie as I remember seeing them as a kid, a contrail that would stretch from horizon to horizon in 1959. Persistent contrails in fact have been observed, documented and discussed from the very early days of high altitude flight.

Funny we don't see all that supposed barium and aluminum on all the weather radars. It would stick out like a sore thumb.

So we are breathing all this barium?

That would cause outbreaks of baritosis. An affliction that stands out like a sore thumb in ANY chest x-ray.
 Quoting: G. House

It is not my premise nor was it ever . . . Also, the concentration of particulate could meet mission requirements and never show up on radar . . .
 Quoting: George B


Please!

If it doesn't show up on radar, the following wouldn't be true either:

2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . .

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Debunking the Debunkers second premise . . .

2) People became more aware of these persistent trails and cloud banks because they have increased significantly because of three main factors. . . . (Along with significant scientific studies, publicity and curiosity by NASA, NOAA, DoE, and their British and European counterparts . . . Due to Global Warming all things atmospheric are now in vogue . . . )

      A.  Simply more air traffic. . . Increasing dramatically over the decades . . . Especially over certain air corridors 

      B.  In the last few decades the altitudes at which aircraft  . . . Especially long haul aviation has increased well into the 30,000 feet cruising altitudes making the likelihood that persistent contrail form statistically more likely  . . .

       C.  Engine efficiencies have increased from .20 to .30 and even higher over the last few decades  . . . Therefore, more and more efficient engines are being added every year. . . More efficient engines increase the relative humidity and lowers the plume temperatures of engine exhaust allowing persistent contrails to form in air that was suboptimal for such formation before. . . .
 Quoting: George B


1) I have no problem with any of the above  . . . The existence of persistent contrails, contrail-induced cirrus cloud banks, etc. . . . in no way disproves the existence of an intentional covert atmospheric aerosol injection program (ICAAIP) . . . 

2) Injected aerosols would follow the exact same atmospheric laws that contrails would. . . .no surprise . . . 

3) Visibility of any aerosol is fleeting at best  . . . Whether contrail or an intentionally injected aerosol . . . Visibility to the human eye  lasts from a few seconds to several hours . . . For example, sulfur compound particulates from volcanic eruptions can stay aloft for months and in some cases years but remain all but invisible except at sunset or sunrise when one sees an intensification of diffused colors . . . Reds, yellows and orange glow . . . 

4) As depicted in this Thread the amount of injected aerosol to accomplish any mission may require way, way less particulate than would ever become readily visible. . . so persistent contrails etc. may well be the perfect cover for any injection program to hide behind. . . .in plain sight. . . .

5) Geoengineering sources have speculated for years the use of commercial and military aircraft fuel as the mechanism to inject aerosols by spiking the fuel with added amounts of the desired substance. . . .such as sulfur compounds. . . So some of the very contrails one sees could in essence be a chemtrail. . . .
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Oh and here's another thing about this:

2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . .

This is NOT being done in the continental US now or in the future.

You WOULD NOT be able to operate 30,000 drones in that environment.

30,000 drones is what you have to look forward to. That is what they want now.

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Please!

If it doesn't show up on radar, the following wouldn't be true either:

2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . .
 Quoting: G. House


1) Who is to say some has been visualized on radar occasionally . . . Thought to be unexplained artifacts and/or Chaff. . .

2) Again even temperature inversions and high winds can give radar ghosts . . .

3) To be covert the managers would keep the concentrations below radar detection but still meet their minimum requirements . . . We have no real way of knowing . . .
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Oh and here's another thing about this:

2) Supplying a global medium that will interact with electromagnetic wave energy . . . Blocking it, scattering it, enhancing it, forming a barrier that energy can bounce off of. . . . Used either as medium for an offensive weapon or defensive weapon or both. . . Could do the same for communications and visualizations. . . . For example holographs that can be seen by millions of people at the same time . . .

This is NOT being done in the continental US now or in the future.

You WOULD NOT be able to operate 30,000 drones in that environment.

30,000 drones is what you have to look forward to. That is what they want now.
 Quoting: G. House


Medium used to enhance over the horizon communication would most likely not interfere with radar detection . . . We do not know what level of advanced technology we are dealing with . . .
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I have pulled a morgellions fiber from my finger..

My mother, dad..and me.... have suffered along with many neighbors when we lived in cedar glen california..


Witnesses have told this newspaper that they have seen and photographed KC 135s and KC 10s, stripped of any military markings and outfitted with what appears to be a “spraying device.” Airport personnel and pilots have confirmed for this reporter that some commercial airliners have also been outfitted to leave long-lasting chemtrails. One former Air Force pilot, who wished not to be named, said, “Yeah, we have them, but were not supposed to talk about it.

link...
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as I keep telling you G House, I live under the shit and I have used binocs etc to prove they are chemtrails and tanker planes laying them and they make me sick with chemtrail lung, and sometimes their "dust" falls on everything, and they follow patterns the commercial air traffic does not and weather has jack shit to do with it. I also have contacts you do not, who also know they are chemtrails and what is in them. Wake the fuck up and see the light on this one.
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More 'natural' contrails!

chuckle

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Do you have any idea how many patents are NEVER used?

That's really weak.
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How is a presenting a US patent that discredits your claim weak?

lol
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How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
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my biggest objection to the chemtrail theory is that if they are in fact trying to disperse chemicals into the atmosphere they are doing a terrible job. but this is the government we are talking about so......
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Do you have any idea how many patents are NEVER used?

That's really weak.
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How is a presenting a US patent that discredits your claim weak?

lol
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
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Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
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One white, one black.


:blackcontrail3:
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just like sometimes auto s spit out black smoke
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So if you introduce the metal particulate into the exhaust stream past the moving engine parts and any area which could cause coating or corrosion . . . one could expect the same observations. . .
 Quoting: George B


Why would you go through that trouble if the friggen soot from the normal fuel would give the same result?

The actual amount of soot produced is an extremely small percentage of the total fuel weight.

The contrails are formed at certain saturations of moisture in the air at -40 degrees.

Besides the standard chemtard claim is that the aluminum and barium is what makes the trails.

Now YOU seem to be saying it ice crystals?
 Quoting: G. House

Visibility is a coincidental consequence possibly of aerosol injection . . . it is not the ultimate goal . . . so whether visible for a few seconds, minutes, or hours is not the purpose . . . If you dump aerosols at 36,000 feet or higher you expect the particulate to remain suspended for months or years . . .
 Quoting: George B


OK,

so they are invisible too?

What a fucking BULLSHIT ARTIST you are.
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Sounds like you must be drunk, "House", the only "bullshit Artist" on this thread so far is you.
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Do you have any idea how many patents are NEVER used?

That's really weak.
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How is a presenting a US patent that discredits your claim weak?

lol
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
 Quoting: Noble


Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
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Why would you go through that trouble if the friggen soot from the normal fuel would give the same result?

The actual amount of soot produced is an extremely small percentage of the total fuel weight.

The contrails are formed at certain saturations of moisture in the air at -40 degrees.

Besides the standard chemtard claim is that the aluminum and barium is what makes the trails.

Now YOU seem to be saying it ice crystals?
 Quoting: G. House

Visibility is a coincidental consequence possibly of aerosol injection . . . it is not the ultimate goal . . . so whether visible for a few seconds, minutes, or hours is not the purpose . . . If you dump aerosols at 36,000 feet or higher you expect the particulate to remain suspended for months or years . . .
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OK,

so they are invisible too?

What a fucking BULLSHIT ARTIST you are.
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Sounds like you must be drunk, "House", the only "bullshit Artist" on this thread so far is you.
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...says the paranoid and ignorant chemtard.
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How is a presenting a US patent that discredits your claim weak?

lol
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How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
 Quoting: Noble


Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
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Talk about stupid, "Nooble" has arrived with his particular brand of dis info as usual. The "GREAT PRETENDER". Also, without proof of his own about much of anything except bs.
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How is a presenting a US patent that discredits your claim weak?

lol
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How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
 Quoting: Noble


Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
 Quoting: Noble



Only proves how stupid you are. There's been an abundance of evidence presented here regarding chemtrails, however it seems you to go right over your head, but go figure.....you're are a dis info agent....and....not a very good one.

We have a very knowledgeable poster on this thread and you can't hold your own with him......all anyone has to do is read your stupid responses. Can't believe you even embarrass yourself by trying.lolsign
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How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
 Quoting: Noble


Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
 Quoting: Noble



Only proves how stupid you are. There's been an abundance of evidence presented here regarding chemtrails, however it seems you to go right over your head, but go figure.....you're are a dis info agent....and....not a very good one.

We have a very knowledgeable poster on this thread and you can't hold your own with him......all anyone has to do is read your stupid responses. Can't believe you even embarrass yourself by trying.lolsign
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Nope, there has been an abundance of speculation based on paranoid ignorance...

Nothing more.

I'm sorry that you are too stupid to know you are stupid.

If you are referring to George, the only reason you agree with him is because you are like minded....stupid, paranoid, and love to make assumptions.

If you chemtards had a any idea how embarrassed you SHOULD be for making stupid assumptions about the trails in the sky, you would kill yourselves.

I can only hope that you educate yourselves enough to bring that to reality...

Although, I know you are all too lazy to take the time to properly research contrails.
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How is posting information about a patent, without showing how it relates to the trails in the sky through anything more than speculation, at all helpful?

You people find patents that mention "airplanes" and "spraying" and make STUPID assumptions and then jump to STUPID conclusions...without proving anything about the trails we all see.

The trails are contrails...and that patent doesn't prove otherwise.

Keep trying chemtard!
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Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
 Quoting: Noble


Talk about stupid, "Nooble" has arrived with his particular brand of dis info as usual. The "GREAT PRETENDER". Also, without proof of his own about much of anything except bs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


How is pointing out that you have no evidence that the trails in the sky have anything to do with that patent, "disinfo"?!

What a pathetic moron you must be...
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Yes, they are trails full of chemicals. In the sky on a daily basis for all to see, except some STUPID disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
 Quoting: Noble



Only proves how stupid you are. There's been an abundance of evidence presented here regarding chemtrails, however it seems you to go right over your head, but go figure.....you're are a dis info agent....and....not a very good one.

We have a very knowledgeable poster on this thread and you can't hold your own with him......all anyone has to do is read your stupid responses. Can't believe you even embarrass yourself by trying.lolsign
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Nope, there has been an abundance of speculation based on paranoid ignorance...

Nothing more.

I'm sorry that you are too stupid to know you are stupid.

If you are referring to George, the only reason you agree with him is because you are like minded....stupid, paranoid, and love to make assumptions.

If you chemtards had a any idea how embarrassed you SHOULD be for making stupid assumptions about the trails in the sky, you would kill yourselves.

I can only hope that you educate yourselves enough to bring that to reality...

Although, I know you are all too lazy to take the time to properly research contrails.
 Quoting: Noble


The same to you Noble. And yes, thank you. It's a compliment to be like minded with George.......he's well informed, intelligent, tenacious and researches the information he provides.....unlike you, he knows what he is talking about and never uses ugly expletives or insults to present his views. That I respect as much as intelligence.

You, on the other hand are a useless bottom feeder with only contard.science and metabunk nonsense. You even make the assumption that you are more intelligent than others. What a joke. Especially when I'm sitting right now in front of windows watching the stupid trails litter the sky like so much trash.

You don't know what others do in their lives...... their quality of intelligence, that's another reason you can't be taken seriously. You are a classic idiot.

Go pound you chest to someone who can be impressed with your hysteria and peddle your bs to your own kind.
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But here is a question for the more discerning.

YOU PEOPLE claim they are "spraying" nano particle barium, aluminum, etc.

But look at the video at about 2:12. There you see a ValueJet at close up with what is claimed is a chemtrail.

Notice that it doesn't become visible until at least 30 to 50 feet BEHIND whatever is supposedly spraying it.

NOPE...

if they actually WERE spraying actual powder it would be visible THE MOMENT it left the nozzle.

This is also borne out by aircraft using skywriting equipment. The smoke is visible right as it comes out the nozzle.

No...

what you are seeing is moisture already in the air undergoing a phase change.

You people are friggen clueless.
 Quoting: G. House


If the particulate are fuel additives you would expect exactly what you are seeing . . . the aerosols within the exhaust act as nuclei (when there is adequate humidity in the ambient air) for the formation of water droplets which freeze almost instantaneously and form visible ice particles but this action is delayed enough to show a separation between the craft and the trail . . . This has been researched repeatedly using different concentrations of sulfur compounds and different engine efficiencies. . .
 Quoting: George B


For your further education, Noble. I believe this patent has been properly explained. Seems you and House are friggen clueless, huh?............
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You stupid chemtards keep CLAIMING the trails we see are something more than contrails...yet you also keep FAILING to prove it.

It's nothing but stupid speculation based on zero evidence and you chemtards are just too stupid to understand that.
 Quoting: Noble



Only proves how stupid you are. There's been an abundance of evidence presented here regarding chemtrails, however it seems you to go right over your head, but go figure.....you're are a dis info agent....and....not a very good one.

We have a very knowledgeable poster on this thread and you can't hold your own with him......all anyone has to do is read your stupid responses. Can't believe you even embarrass yourself by trying.lolsign
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Nope, there has been an abundance of speculation based on paranoid ignorance...

Nothing more.

I'm sorry that you are too stupid to know you are stupid.

If you are referring to George, the only reason you agree with him is because you are like minded....stupid, paranoid, and love to make assumptions.

If you chemtards had a any idea how embarrassed you SHOULD be for making stupid assumptions about the trails in the sky, you would kill yourselves.

I can only hope that you educate yourselves enough to bring that to reality...

Although, I know you are all too lazy to take the time to properly research contrails.
 Quoting: Noble


The same to you Noble. And yes, thank you. It's a compliment to be like minded with George.......he's well informed, intelligent, tenacious and researches the information he provides.....unlike you, he knows what he is talking about and never uses ugly expletives or insults to present his views. That I respect as much as intelligence.

You, on the other hand are a useless bottom feeder with only contard.science and metabunk nonsense. You even make the assumption that you are more intelligent than others. What a joke. Especially when I'm sitting right now in front of windows watching the stupid trails litter the sky like so much trash.

You don't know what others do in their lives...... their quality of intelligence, that's another reason you can't be taken seriously. You are a classic idiot.

Go pound you chest to someone who can be impressed with your hysteria and peddle your bs to your own kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Again, you agree with him because you are ALSO a paranoid loser...go ahead, be proud!

The sad part is...that EVERYONE who has formally studied these subjects, agrees with ME...not George.

Sorry! You still lose!
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