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The Ultimate Conspiracy: What 2012 Really Means

 
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I have my bunker lol 2012 am ready!!! Buil Orgon shield, got foods and water stockpile and not afraid of irani ufos or alien invaders!!!! Mayans knew it coming y2k was fraud to keep our guards down I dunno Revolation tells us end is comin and I think he know better than maya.
Im a prepper your a prepper he a prepper she a prepper WOULDN YOU LIKE TO BE A PREPPER TO?
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OP?

The large black hole in the center of the galaxy has exploded with a large ejection of energy. That energy is scheduled to arrive in our solar system and change the sun's cycle into a red dwarf on December 23rd, 2012. The mayans were two days off. Nasa has many videos and 3d presentations available online, showing the explosion, and the projected path.


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Could you please provide one or more links for that? I can't find anything on it from NASA :( but sure would like to see that!
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www.kryon.com
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This can't be true.
The feds have already established part of their tax code for 2014. This meaning that they have full knowledge that there will be no doom and will tax your ass raw. Looking at the projected plans of the government and the corporations puts these doom threads into LALA LAND. When they stop planing for the future.......worry.
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beaureaucrats need busy work.
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OP you been following the work of Pane Andov? He's pushing this E.T. deception idea as well. The galactic superwave idea resonates with me but not this alien trickery part.
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Anhedonic, have you read any of the "Soul Trap" thread? Kinda plays into this idea, though i think in this case the greys are just tools of the archons, and not the main perpetrators.
This is all a joke!!
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Soooo if we stay here and dont accept the greys help, what happens after we die then??
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DIE?? WE ARE LIGHT BEINGS ----*

Greys are entities that have evolved via 'descending'

Humans are 'meant' to 'ascend' in our evolution.

the higher we get, the less 'matter/carbon we are'

If you stay here and keep loving, we will be either taken to another human like love planet (via our light souls)

or

become non physical light beings (...kind of like being on lsd/shrooms ....lol)

the purest choice is - anything but the grays.
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We are approx 26,000 light years from the center of our galaxy, if there had been an explosion we would not see it until the light got here and along with the light comes the explosion the only thing you would see before the light would be blue light for a short period, that is because blue light travels very slightly faster than other colors of light , so as you look towards the center of the galaxy ( by sagitarrius bow ) you would see a blue light for a short period of time before the explosion of light . So as you see it is impossible to take a picture of this event, unless you were there and get back travelling faster than the speed of light. I do believe there is a super wave coming from the center of the galaxy , just not yet.
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Soooo if we stay here and dont accept the greys help, what happens after we die then??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12506015


DIE?? WE ARE LIGHT BEINGS ----*

Greys are entities that have evolved via 'descending'

Humans are 'meant' to 'ascend' in our evolution.

the higher we get, the less 'matter/carbon we are'

If you stay here and keep loving, we will be either taken to another human like love planet (via our light souls)

or

become non physical light beings (...kind of like being on lsd/shrooms ....lol)

the purest choice is - anything but the grays.
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...having said that, i think the greys are sincere in that they 'need us' to stay alive.

There intent is simply to survive. We carry good karma and they need it on there planet.
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Positive energy (sent towards my coworker) REJECTED!!!!
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lol what?

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OP you been following the work of Pane Andov? He's pushing this E.T. deception idea as well. The galactic superwave idea resonates with me but not this alien trickery part.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Anhedonic, have you read any of the "Soul Trap" thread? Kinda plays into this idea, though i think in this case the greys are just tools of the archons, and not the main perpetrators.
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Yes portions of it. While I maintain an open mind to many possibilities, the idea that my eternal fate lies in the hands of deceptive E.T.'s does not resonate with me. Some individuals have become spiritually awakened in this lifetime and it's difficult to believe that one would be prone to the same 'traps' and 'deceptions' as in previous lives where these same individuals were not awakened. Also, it's hard to fathom how 'evil' E.T.'s would be permitted to do this with no intervention from the 'good guys'. Where the fuck are the good guys if this shit is going down? Every time you read about benevolent E.T.'s you read something about the policy of 'non-interference' and allowing 'free will'.... Well 7 billion souls being trapped by archons and evil E.T. overlords doesn't sound like any free will to me so what the fuck is going on with these benevolent forces out there?
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Sounds a lot like Pane Andov.
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Sounds a lot like Pane Andov.
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That's what I was saying... I just read his ebook/PDF on his site.
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I wouldn't follow any beings that the Mayans have aligned themselves with.Without going all biblical Quetzalcoatl is known by many names in the Yucatan area and he is a Lucifer incarnate. The deception you need to watch for is anyone offering assistance.
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What do the Toynbee tiles, Stanley Kubrick, NASA, and crop circles have in common?

I'm going to summarize here to make this readable so you can be on your way. Enjoy.

The large black hole in the center of the galaxy has exploded with a large ejection of energy. That energy is scheduled to arrive in our solar system and change the sun's cycle into a red dwarf on December 23rd, 2012. The mayans were two days off. Nasa has many videos and 3d presentations available online, showing the explosion, and the projected path.

The conspiracy involved sounds stranger than the truth. The energy wave hitting the sun and the earth on the 23rd of December will cause massive weather chaos and great modification of our DNA in preparation for departure from the planet. By March or April 2013, The atmosphere will have been completely evaporated and all life will cease to exist. The core temperature of this massive wave of energy is around 6000 celcius.

Now let's start putting these pieces together. If that is is the case, why doesn't the government let us know? Because they intend on exploiting the situation.

There are two opposing alien factions floating around us like mitochondria in a petri dish. They are here for the show. This is evident in the tether incident videos as well as many others. The people you need to be concerned about are the Greys, which are a hive intelligence and have been manipulating us and our reincarnations for thousands of years.

The toynbee tiles located all over earth refer to this conspiracy indirectly. Let me quote:

"TOYNBEE IDEA
IN MOViE `2001
RESURRECT DEAD
ON PLANET JUPITER."

This is a reference to Stanley Kubrick's heavily symbolic movie 2001. Let me take you on this journey for a moment.

In the movie, the true space agency discovers alien artifacts and decides to hide this information from the public. This is a reference to our secret space program, not NASA which is bread and circuses. Later the ET is encountered, in a series of learning events in a white room (think abductions). After these revelations, man is reborn (fetus) and appears on an alien world (jupiter).

The Toynbee reference is to the Professor. His basic premise is that if we don't learn from our mistakes, we will keep recycling them forever. The toynbee tiles are ultimately letting you in on a secret. After the wave hits us, the plan is for us to continue our reincarnation cycles on jupiter. This will be guided by the Greys. They plan on continuing to manipulate us, gather us as an energy source, and continue to wipe our memory and send us back.

This information has been known for insiders for many decades. Also remember that Kubrick worked closely with Arthur C Clarke who had insider ties to the most insidious controllers. Nasa was also rumored to be involved in the film.

Why is there never disclosure, yet lately they are admitting water and life on mars and the moon? Disclosure was not allowed by the Greys until the time was right. Now the grand deception will begin. This is the ultimate bait and switch. You will be given a handout, which you cannot take. We have already been warned of this bait and switch in the following crop circle, which has been decoded by three different scientists.

[link to www.thejinn.net]

There will be a massive false flag event that will coincide with them offering their assistance. If you take it, your soul will be recycled for millenia for their benefit.

We are meant to stay here to the last minute, and help each other in the process. We have a potential for outside help, which the mayans allude to. This will only occur if we are not deceived and we treat each other with kindness and respect. Nobody wants an angry 10 year old in the cosmic community.

So, a recap. December 23rd, 2012 is not the end of the world, only the beginning. Our physical life will only last a few months after that date, but for the first time in perhaps tens of thousands of years, we have the possibility of being truly free.
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What 2012 really means is the end of hope. Millions upon millions are awaiting something, anything....the change, the revealing, the transformation, the Messiah, the new age, the golden age, a new world.....anything. Nothing will change, and millions will become pessimistic, negative, and lose hope. 2013 will be horrible....wretched. We have only begun to see the depths to which humans can sink...mark these words friend...hell on earth is coming.
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Correction, this is what you will experience. Not me or other like minded. Why would you even be so negative when there is no way possible period for you to know what will happen? Why not be open to change and open ur mind and heart to a positive transformation....it has been told in all linds of ancient texts that what is to come is something posotive not the evil doom ur chosing to project for yourself and others.
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The large black hole in the center of the galaxy has exploded with a large ejection of energy. That energy is scheduled to arrive in our solar system and change the sun's cycle into a red dwarf on December 23rd, 2012.
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Provide evidence of your claims, otherwise please STFU and leave the forum. Thanks.

A truth seeker.
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The large black hole in the center of the galaxy has exploded with a large ejection of energy. That energy is scheduled to arrive in our solar system and change the sun's cycle into a red dwarf on December 23rd, 2012.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651


Provide evidence of your claims, otherwise please STFU and leave the forum. Thanks.

A truth seeker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19625957


The "evidence" is provided by ET's - for only they would have the technology and galactic communication capability to KNOW what's coming and when. It's clear the crop circles, coming DAILY at this time of year, are telling a consistent and very URGENT story. Read the discussed links. Do your homework, and use your BRAIN and figure it out. No one is going to hand you any PROOF.
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what kind of handout do you think the grays will attempt to give us? is there a possibility that the good E.T.s will attempt to help us?
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The Greys will orchestrate the problem, then the solution. No matter what kind of handout it is, we cannot take it. Will the good guys intervene? I'm hoping so, yes. If you refer to the newest mayan artifacts found, it shows the triangle in the sun (seen recently) with ships flying out of it, to earth, then leaving. I'm hoping this race of good guys was related to the mayans and they are here on the promised return. We shall see.
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You believe an incredibly large amount of bullshit!
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Non of this is true sorry. We are entering into the crystaline from carbon base. This is the Mayan calendar. It is not a planetary alignment that all are saying. It is a Galactic alignment. You must be able to interpret the sky(astrology) to understand the Mayan calendar. This time coming shortly is THE END OF FEAR! NO MORE FEAR IN OUR CONSCIOUSNESS. This article is just more of the old consciousness not liking this new way. I am not an expert but I must intervene on this thread. To all that read this kind of stuff this is what I know to be happening:

There will be a major shift in economies of the world(happening already) and this will happen at break neck speed starting now.

There will in time be only 5 currencies.

You will notice and exoperience around you an increase in Natural causes of death all around and all ages. Do to,as I said, a stransition of frequency to crystaline from carbon.

Disease will end.
Fear will end.
Conspiracies will be exposed(at break neck spead)
Wars will putter out soon(happening now)
A fair economy for all will be and the end of non choice suffering.

Obama will be re-elected no matter the rebuttle that will follow this thread.
The "bad Aliens(greys-reptilians)-)will have no more influence anymore.This has already ended.
All the ones you see are friendly and some look human.They are nice. Don't fear them...they are our friends. If they were evil then we wouldn't be still wondering if they exist!!!!

Religion will be realized in what the truth realy is. This will be the single most devastating thing for people to be realized and deal with.

There is nothing to fear in the near future or far future. In 2013 IT WILL BE A MOST WONDERFUL AND AMAZING TIME TO BE ALIVE!! DON'T BUY INTO THIS FEAR STUFF.

WE WILL BE VERY MUCH OK. I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE REBUTTLES I WILL GET.HEHEHE..We will be just fine, the earth will be fine. You won't be if YOU THINK SO!!!


The times ahead will be challenging as the end falls. Keep your heads up!! It will be very short.

By the way..just a tid pit of something for me to say....Obama the soul is/was Abe!

I am out have a good day or night all.WE ARE ONE EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T THINK SO!!!
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Cheers!!

hearts
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Whats the deal with all these hateful souls and there foul mouths insulting others for there perception of whats to come. Acting like children. Telling others to stfu if you dont have a link? Lol come on a link ....maybe you all should open your minds and allow some positiveness in instead of insulting others. You will be bound by ur little box if you never peak out at the world. Nobody knows what will happen...nobody knows what exactly we are capable of...but what is for sure is we are apiritual beings having a flesh/physical experience and that alone should be enough profe that what op and all other like minded could be 100% correct. Love eachother...we are all one...come together....we are not the enemy...none of us. Let ur anger go.
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OP: Links or get your anti-psychotics
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the atmosphere will only be down for 3 days to 2 weeks.
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What do the Toynbee tiles, Stanley Kubrick, NASA, and crop circles have in common?

I'm going to summarize here to make this readable so you can be on your way. Enjoy.

The large black hole in the center of the galaxy has exploded with a large ejection of energy. That energy is scheduled to arrive in our solar system and change the sun's cycle into a red dwarf on December 23rd, 2012. The mayans were two days off. Nasa has many videos and 3d presentations available online, showing the explosion, and the projected path.

The conspiracy involved sounds stranger than the truth. The energy wave hitting the sun and the earth on the 23rd of December will cause massive weather chaos and great modification of our DNA in preparation for departure from the planet. By March or April 2013, The atmosphere will have been completely evaporated and all life will cease to exist. The core temperature of this massive wave of energy is around 6000 celcius.

Now let's start putting these pieces together. If that is is the case, why doesn't the government let us know? Because they intend on exploiting the situation.

There are two opposing alien factions floating around us like mitochondria in a petri dish. They are here for the show. This is evident in the tether incident videos as well as many others. The people you need to be concerned about are the Greys, which are a hive intelligence and have been manipulating us and our reincarnations for thousands of years.

The toynbee tiles located all over earth refer to this conspiracy indirectly. Let me quote:

"TOYNBEE IDEA
IN MOViE `2001
RESURRECT DEAD
ON PLANET JUPITER."

This is a reference to Stanley Kubrick's heavily symbolic movie 2001. Let me take you on this journey for a moment.

In the movie, the true space agency discovers alien artifacts and decides to hide this information from the public. This is a reference to our secret space program, not NASA which is bread and circuses. Later the ET is encountered, in a series of learning events in a white room (think abductions). After these revelations, man is reborn (fetus) and appears on an alien world (jupiter).

The Toynbee reference is to the Professor. His basic premise is that if we don't learn from our mistakes, we will keep recycling them forever. The toynbee tiles are ultimately letting you in on a secret. After the wave hits us, the plan is for us to continue our reincarnation cycles on jupiter. This will be guided by the Greys. They plan on continuing to manipulate us, gather us as an energy source, and continue to wipe our memory and send us back.

This information has been known for insiders for many decades. Also remember that Kubrick worked closely with Arthur C Clarke who had insider ties to the most insidious controllers. Nasa was also rumored to be involved in the film.

Why is there never disclosure, yet lately they are admitting water and life on mars and the moon? Disclosure was not allowed by the Greys until the time was right. Now the grand deception will begin. This is the ultimate bait and switch. You will be given a handout, which you cannot take. We have already been warned of this bait and switch in the following crop circle, which has been decoded by three different scientists.

[link to www.thejinn.net]

There will be a massive false flag event that will coincide with them offering their assistance. If you take it, your soul will be recycled for millenia for their benefit.

We are meant to stay here to the last minute, and help each other in the process. We have a potential for outside help, which the mayans allude to. This will only occur if we are not deceived and we treat each other with kindness and respect. Nobody wants an angry 10 year old in the cosmic community.

So, a recap. December 23rd, 2012 is not the end of the world, only the beginning. Our physical life will only last a few months after that date, but for the first time in perhaps tens of thousands of years, we have the possibility of being truly free.
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Well done.
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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unless it totally ripped away. which would make us a planet like mars. but this is a common cycle. and happens every 26 thousands years. hopefully it will only rip the upper atmosphere and repair it self
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If the sun goes into a red giant phase suddenly we will indeed leave the planet...As vaporized gas..
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well if we get screwed over, maybe venus will be fun to live on
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im pretty sure men are going to mars, and women venus or something, I wish the afterlife was coed!
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first of all a black hole can't explode

second stop fear mongering
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BUUUUUUMMMMMMMPPPPP!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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what kind of handout do you think the grays will attempt to give us? is there a possibility that the good E.T.s will attempt to help us?
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The Greys will orchestrate the problem, then the solution. No matter what kind of handout it is, we cannot take it. Will the good guys intervene? I'm hoping so, yes. If you refer to the newest mayan artifacts found, it shows the triangle in the sun (seen recently) with ships flying out of it, to earth, then leaving. I'm hoping this race of good guys was related to the mayans and they are here on the promised return. We shall see.
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the problem will be orchestrated and solved by the same faction wearing alternate disguises, yes

the old "create a need and fill it" routine, sigh

it's promised alright. think GFL

the false light

"supernatural entity playing Jesus seduces the whole world into idolatry"

just that simple.

and yes, they've always been proponents of the "good guy/bad guy" scenario

works for the cabal who worship them with their ritualistic occultism

works for the incoming factions of fallen angels once again posing as your creators/overlords/saviors

if you can't learn from your ancestors past mistakes then I guess you just can't learn, other than the only way you've ever learned apparently -

that being the hardest way possible, whereafter most of you can't whine that you haven't been warned

I for one have made certain of this and can and will bear witness to same

; )

we all have our jobs to do

let's hope we've done them to their fullest prior to the selection process which occurs at the end of this dispensation/age

after that your fate is set in stone for a thousand years during which you will be taught all truth in a setting wherein and by there will be no question/doubt as to the absolute veracity of such

following which you will once again be tested in like circumstance prior to eternal judgment with regard to your lot, that which you have earned and hence will have no choice but to stand behind and accept in all humility if not Grace in the absolute.

if you still wish to follow the false light at THAT juncture, unwittingly or not, (after all, "it's" lies will ALWAYS be more seductive than Truth) after having been taught all truth during the Millinneum, then you will follow "it" directly into oblivion as by that point all long suffering and forbearance in your regard will have been exhausted in full.

this is as it should be hence anyone who finds reason to kick against the pricks at that point will simply be ignored.

the rest will move forward into the actual/original/eternal Promised Land known as the Eternity, during which the meaning of absolute and utter Freedom/Bliss will be systematically reinvented/redefined.

If you are a lover of same you have much to look forward to, whereas if you don't really give a damn that's exactly what you'll receive in exchange for your trouble.
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OP supply supposed links to evidence from NASA.
Quit with the bullshit hogwash.





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