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king of ignorance: I did not address this bunch of BULLSHIT in your last post:

"Stamps do not either, however stamps are a form of currency, but not money. They are debt free for the Postal Service, but I can't pay my bills with US Postage Stamps and neither can anyone else."

Have you ever tried to pay something with postage stamps? I know for a FACT you CAN because I have done it.

It used to be common practice before checks were common. Most cereal companies offered small toys to kids payable with, you guessed it, POSTAGE STAMPS.

You really should stop posting because you really do not know shit about this subject.

Tell you what, walk your stupid ass into a POST OFFICE and talk to someone behind the counter, ask them if POSTAGE STAMPS are MONEY and or LEGAL TENDER. If you can actually form a spoken sentence, that is.

Then come back and tell us again how they are not MONEY.
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thank you for posting this i like this and watch it often as it is easy to understand for all i can get to wacth it. are we tired of this yet america? lets take it back and kick them out!!
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This is why rockypaul will save your ass America. This is why they try to stop him becoming a president who is in fact the NEXT Thomas Jefferson
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He is the modern Ralph Nader. He is only there to steal your vote from the primary two candidates(no better way then to color it with a lot of "patriotism")...Come on guys. Are we really that dumb in not seeing the same thing being pulled on us again?...putin
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This is why rockypaul will save your ass America. This is why they try to stop him becoming a president who is in fact the NEXT Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: IMAX


He is the modern Ralph Nader. He is only there to steal your vote from the primary two candidates(no better way then to color it with a lot of "patriotism")...Come on guys. Are we really that dumb in not seeing the same thing being pulled on us again?...putin
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Ron Paul and his people are trying so hard to bring America back...Open yourEyes dude
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king of ignorance: I did not address this bunch of BULLSHIT in your last post:

"Stamps do not either, however stamps are a form of currency, but not money. They are debt free for the Postal Service, but I can't pay my bills with US Postage Stamps and neither can anyone else."

Have you ever tried to pay something with postage stamps? I know for a FACT you CAN because I have done it.

It used to be common practice before checks were common. Most cereal companies offered small toys to kids payable with, you guessed it, POSTAGE STAMPS.

You really should stop posting because you really do not know shit about this subject.

Tell you what, walk your stupid ass into a POST OFFICE and talk to someone behind the counter, ask them if POSTAGE STAMPS are MONEY and or LEGAL TENDER. If you can actually form a spoken sentence, that is.

Then come back and tell us again how they are not MONEY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


You're a moron shill who's talking out your ass while I'm offering real solutions on Monetary reform that can work in the real world.

Go ahead take all your Federal Reserve Notes and trade them for US Postage Stamps, then see if you can pay your Electric Bill or property taxes with them.

Something tells me the only "Stamps" your using for money are "Food Stamps".

Let me guess you know a secret way that you don't have to pay property taxes or income taxes, or FICA/Medicare taxes. We'll be seeing you in jail right next to Wesley Snipes.

Keep on shillin', FOOD STAMPER!
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This is why rockypaul will save your ass America. This is why they try to stop him becoming a president who is in fact the NEXT Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: IMAX


He is the modern Ralph Nader. He is only there to steal your vote from the primary two candidates(no better way then to color it with a lot of "patriotism")...Come on guys. Are we really that dumb in not seeing the same thing being pulled on us again?...putin
 Quoting: Duh! 1476969


Ron Paul and his people are trying so hard to bring America back...Open yourEyes dude
 Quoting: IMAX


Ron Paul is trying to bring America back to what, that's the question?

Sure he wants to end the Fed, and Fractional Reserve Lending, but where would that leave us, have you ever asked yourself that question?

I'll tell you where it leaves us, it leaves us with a system where all money must be dug out of the ground and minted, then borrowed at interest from whoever owns it, that's where it leaves us.

It's great if you're wealthy, own a Gold/Silver/Platinum mine, or already have money to loan, but if you the average Joe, J E W, or Gentile you real interest rate is going to skyrocket.

People who back Ron Paul do not understand how money works, Money is not Rocks. Money is a Financial Asset, backed by a Financial Liability, held by another party.

To put it simply, money is "Proof of Debt", that is what money is. Each time we go to a Bank and take out a loan NEW MONEY is created, they do not loan you someone else's money.

100% of the Loan is New Money, as you repay the loan the principle is Voided, it no longer exists. It came from nothing, and it returns to nothing, when the debt is repaid so is the money it created.

If I borrow $100k from a Bank, that Bank creates $100k and gives me the loan. What they don't create is the interest, it's a sweet deal for the Bankers, they make money from thin air then they charge interest to use it.

The system really isn't Fractional Reserve Lending, it's really "Temporary Money".

Nothing wrong with Temporary Money, it's who controls it and what they charge you to use it.

Ron Paul want to do away with all of it, so Banks can only loan money they have, investor money. I agree the Private Banks should only be allowed to loan money they have, however we must have public Banks using Temporary Money, or there will never be enough supply( Money ) to meet the demand for the Loans!

This will make Interest Rates Skyrocket, Andrew Jackson and the Jacksonian's already tried it and it was a complete failure.

Either:

A: Ron Paul has no Idea what he is doing and would kill the middle class and Poor with Interest Rates they could never afford.

OR

B: Ron Paul knows exactly what he is doing and he is a shill for those who already have money, so they what interest rates to skyrocket so they can live off other people's misery.


Either way, Ron's not going to get elected.
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king of ignorance: I did not address this bunch of BULLSHIT in your last post:

"Stamps do not either, however stamps are a form of currency, but not money. They are debt free for the Postal Service, but I can't pay my bills with US Postage Stamps and neither can anyone else."

Have you ever tried to pay something with postage stamps? I know for a FACT you CAN because I have done it.

It used to be common practice before checks were common. Most cereal companies offered small toys to kids payable with, you guessed it, POSTAGE STAMPS.

You really should stop posting because you really do not know shit about this subject.

Tell you what, walk your stupid ass into a POST OFFICE and talk to someone behind the counter, ask them if POSTAGE STAMPS are MONEY and or LEGAL TENDER. If you can actually form a spoken sentence, that is.

Then come back and tell us again how they are not MONEY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


You're a moron shill who's talking out your ass while I'm offering real solutions on Monetary reform that can work in the real world.

Go ahead take all your Federal Reserve Notes and trade them for US Postage Stamps, then see if you can pay your Electric Bill or property taxes with them.

Something tells me the only "Stamps" your using for money are "Food Stamps".

Let me guess you know a secret way that you don't have to pay property taxes or income taxes, or FICA/Medicare taxes. We'll be seeing you in jail right next to Wesley Snipes.

Keep on shillin', FOOD STAMPER!

 Quoting: King David 19584978

You are offering "real solutions". I have read the entire thread and have seen none of the real solutions. When you get your 'real solutions' on the national stage, I will believe it.

Till then, the other poster seems to have backed all his posts with current laws and sources and you have offered food stamp rebuttals and pie in the sky solutions. You are free to get on the ballot for president and see where your solutions get you.
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king of ignorance: I did not address this bunch of BULLSHIT in your last post:

"Stamps do not either, however stamps are a form of currency, but not money. They are debt free for the Postal Service, but I can't pay my bills with US Postage Stamps and neither can anyone else."

Have you ever tried to pay something with postage stamps? I know for a FACT you CAN because I have done it.

It used to be common practice before checks were common. Most cereal companies offered small toys to kids payable with, you guessed it, POSTAGE STAMPS.

You really should stop posting because you really do not know shit about this subject.

Tell you what, walk your stupid ass into a POST OFFICE and talk to someone behind the counter, ask them if POSTAGE STAMPS are MONEY and or LEGAL TENDER. If you can actually form a spoken sentence, that is.

Then come back and tell us again how they are not MONEY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


You're a moron shill who's talking out your ass while I'm offering real solutions on Monetary reform that can work in the real world.

Go ahead take all your Federal Reserve Notes and trade them for US Postage Stamps, then see if you can pay your Electric Bill or property taxes with them.

Something tells me the only "Stamps" your using for money are "Food Stamps".

Let me guess you know a secret way that you don't have to pay property taxes or income taxes, or FICA/Medicare taxes. We'll be seeing you in jail right next to Wesley Snipes.

Keep on shillin', FOOD STAMPER!

 Quoting: King David 19584978

You are offering "real solutions". I have read the entire thread and have seen none of the real solutions. When you get your 'real solutions' on the national stage, I will believe it.

Till then, the other poster seems to have backed all his posts with current laws and sources and you have offered food stamp rebuttals and pie in the sky solutions. You are free to get on the ballot for president and see where your solutions get you.
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Like I say, go ahead and show me a US Note made after 1971?

We'll see how far you get trying to pay your bills will US Postage Stamps, good for Mailing Post.
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king of ignorance: I did not address this bunch of BULLSHIT in your last post:

"Stamps do not either, however stamps are a form of currency, but not money. They are debt free for the Postal Service, but I can't pay my bills with US Postage Stamps and neither can anyone else."

Have you ever tried to pay something with postage stamps? I know for a FACT you CAN because I have done it.

It used to be common practice before checks were common. Most cereal companies offered small toys to kids payable with, you guessed it, POSTAGE STAMPS.

You really should stop posting because you really do not know shit about this subject.

Tell you what, walk your stupid ass into a POST OFFICE and talk to someone behind the counter, ask them if POSTAGE STAMPS are MONEY and or LEGAL TENDER. If you can actually form a spoken sentence, that is.

Then come back and tell us again how they are not MONEY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


You're a moron shill who's talking out your ass while I'm offering real solutions on Monetary reform that can work in the real world.

Go ahead take all your Federal Reserve Notes and trade them for US Postage Stamps, then see if you can pay your Electric Bill or property taxes with them.

Something tells me the only "Stamps" your using for money are "Food Stamps".

Let me guess you know a secret way that you don't have to pay property taxes or income taxes, or FICA/Medicare taxes. We'll be seeing you in jail right next to Wesley Snipes.

Keep on shillin', FOOD STAMPER!

 Quoting: King David 19584978

You are offering "real solutions". I have read the entire thread and have seen none of the real solutions. When you get your 'real solutions' on the national stage, I will believe it.

Till then, the other poster seems to have backed all his posts with current laws and sources and you have offered food stamp rebuttals and pie in the sky solutions. You are free to get on the ballot for president and see where your solutions get you.
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Like I say, go ahead and show me a US Note made after 1971?

We'll see how far you get trying to pay your bills will US Postage Stamps, good for Mailing Post.
 Quoting: Knig David 19584978

King David...I don't understand what this US bill after 1971 is about? can you fill me in with program?
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This is why rockypaul will save your ass America. This is why they try to stop him becoming a president who is in fact the NEXT Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: IMAX


He is the modern Ralph Nader. He is only there to steal your vote from the primary two candidates(no better way then to color it with a lot of "patriotism")...Come on guys. Are we really that dumb in not seeing the same thing being pulled on us again?...putin
 Quoting: Duh! 1476969


Ron Paul and his people are trying so hard to bring America back...Open yourEyes dude
 Quoting: IMAX


Ron Paul is trying to bring America back to what, that's the question?

Sure he wants to end the Fed, and Fractional Reserve Lending, but where would that leave us, have you ever asked yourself that question?

I'll tell you where it leaves us, it leaves us with a system where all money must be dug out of the ground and minted, then borrowed at interest from whoever owns it, that's where it leaves us.

It's great if you're wealthy, own a Gold/Silver/Platinum mine, or already have money to loan, but if you the average Joe, J E W, or Gentile you real interest rate is going to skyrocket.

People who back Ron Paul do not understand how money works, Money is not Rocks. Money is a Financial Asset, backed by a Financial Liability, held by another party.

To put it simply, money is "Proof of Debt", that is what money is. Each time we go to a Bank and take out a loan NEW MONEY is created, they do not loan you someone else's money.

100% of the Loan is New Money, as you repay the loan the principle is Voided, it no longer exists. It came from nothing, and it returns to nothing, when the debt is repaid so is the money it created.

If I borrow $100k from a Bank, that Bank creates $100k and gives me the loan. What they don't create is the interest, it's a sweet deal for the Bankers, they make money from thin air then they charge interest to use it.

The system really isn't Fractional Reserve Lending, it's really "Temporary Money".

Nothing wrong with Temporary Money, it's who controls it and what they charge you to use it.

Ron Paul want to do away with all of it, so Banks can only loan money they have, investor money. I agree the Private Banks should only be allowed to loan money they have, however we must have public Banks using Temporary Money, or there will never be enough supply( Money ) to meet the demand for the Loans!

This will make Interest Rates Skyrocket, Andrew Jackson and the Jacksonian's already tried it and it was a complete failure.

Either:

A: Ron Paul has no Idea what he is doing and would kill the middle class and Poor with Interest Rates they could never afford.

OR

B: Ron Paul knows exactly what he is doing and he is a shill for those who already have money, so they what interest rates to skyrocket so they can live off other people's misery.


Either way, Ron's not going to get elected.
 Quoting: King David 19584978


Please explain to me if you have the time that what would Romney do if elected? what can he do to help America what Obama didn't?
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Ron Paul.
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He is the modern Ralph Nader. He is only there to steal your vote from the primary two candidates(no better way then to color it with a lot of "patriotism")...Come on guys. Are we really that dumb in not seeing the same thing being pulled on us again?...putin
 Quoting: Duh! 1476969


Ron Paul and his people are trying so hard to bring America back...Open yourEyes dude
 Quoting: IMAX


Ron Paul is trying to bring America back to what, that's the question?

Sure he wants to end the Fed, and Fractional Reserve Lending, but where would that leave us, have you ever asked yourself that question?

I'll tell you where it leaves us, it leaves us with a system where all money must be dug out of the ground and minted, then borrowed at interest from whoever owns it, that's where it leaves us.

It's great if you're wealthy, own a Gold/Silver/Platinum mine, or already have money to loan, but if you the average Joe, J E W, or Gentile you real interest rate is going to skyrocket.

People who back Ron Paul do not understand how money works, Money is not Rocks. Money is a Financial Asset, backed by a Financial Liability, held by another party.

To put it simply, money is "Proof of Debt", that is what money is. Each time we go to a Bank and take out a loan NEW MONEY is created, they do not loan you someone else's money.

100% of the Loan is New Money, as you repay the loan the principle is Voided, it no longer exists. It came from nothing, and it returns to nothing, when the debt is repaid so is the money it created.

If I borrow $100k from a Bank, that Bank creates $100k and gives me the loan. What they don't create is the interest, it's a sweet deal for the Bankers, they make money from thin air then they charge interest to use it.

The system really isn't Fractional Reserve Lending, it's really "Temporary Money".

Nothing wrong with Temporary Money, it's who controls it and what they charge you to use it.

Ron Paul want to do away with all of it, so Banks can only loan money they have, investor money. I agree the Private Banks should only be allowed to loan money they have, however we must have public Banks using Temporary Money, or there will never be enough supply( Money ) to meet the demand for the Loans!

This will make Interest Rates Skyrocket, Andrew Jackson and the Jacksonian's already tried it and it was a complete failure.

Either:

A: Ron Paul has no Idea what he is doing and would kill the middle class and Poor with Interest Rates they could never afford.

OR

B: Ron Paul knows exactly what he is doing and he is a shill for those who already have money, so they what interest rates to skyrocket so they can live off other people's misery.


Either way, Ron's not going to get elected.
 Quoting: King David 19584978


Please explain to me if you have the time that what would Romney do if elected? what can he do to help America what Obama didn't?
 Quoting: IMAX


He would definitely "nuke Iran" with depleted U bombs.
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You're a moron shill who's talking out your ass while I'm offering real solutions on Monetary reform that can work in the real world.

Go ahead take all your Federal Reserve Notes and trade them for US Postage Stamps, then see if you can pay your Electric Bill or property taxes with them.

Something tells me the only "Stamps" your using for money are "Food Stamps".

Let me guess you know a secret way that you don't have to pay property taxes or income taxes, or FICA/Medicare taxes. We'll be seeing you in jail right next to Wesley Snipes.

Keep on shillin', FOOD STAMPER!

 Quoting: King David 19584978

You are offering "real solutions". I have read the entire thread and have seen none of the real solutions. When you get your 'real solutions' on the national stage, I will believe it.

Till then, the other poster seems to have backed all his posts with current laws and sources and you have offered food stamp rebuttals and pie in the sky solutions. You are free to get on the ballot for president and see where your solutions get you.
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Like I say, go ahead and show me a US Note made after 1971?

We'll see how far you get trying to pay your bills will US Postage Stamps, good for Mailing Post.
 Quoting: Knig David 19584978

King David...I don't understand what this US bill after 1971 is about? can you fill me in with program?
 Quoting: IMAX


A US Note does not have the seal of the Federal Reserve Bank, it's Not a "Federal Reserve Note".

The US Government can issue US Notes without going through the Federal Reserve System. Meaning the Federal Government can issue legal US money without issuing Debt that we must pay interest on to the Private Bankers.

This is what Lincoln did with the Greenback, the Private Bankers wanted to loan the Union money @34% interest for the Civil War, so Lincoln Issued Debt free Greenbacks as Money.

Really that's what US Notes are, Congress kept reissuing the Greenbacks after the War and they became the US Notes.

Not to be confused with Demand Notes for Silver or Gold, they were also issue by the Treasury.
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This is why rockypaul will save your ass America. This is why they try to stop him becoming a president who is in fact the NEXT Thomas Jefferson
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RP is just another illusion. You have NO CHOICE.

Stop organized crime. Re-elect NO ONE.
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That's what they want you to believe. Ron Paul wants to get rid of the IRS and the Fed. what more possibly can you need from a leader?

Romney, Obama, Clinton, Gingrich, Santoroum , etc are all the same cake with a different icing on top

Ron Paul isn't
 Quoting: IMAX


Ron Paul tards don't realize it's not ONLY America under control.. the Banking Elite CONTROL THE WORLD!
The debt is worldwide, owned and controlled by those money masters whom create money!
To change America you'd really need to change the monetary system of the world at this point.

We are OWNED, all of us slaves.. and yes counties are OWNED too!
Presidents and voting doesn't mean anything.. they take orders from the bankers whom rule us all.
Banks/Central Banks create money out of thin air, counties BORROW money from the banks.. they rule us all because of that.

If a country had the freedom to create it's own money supply.. free from tax, that country would truly be free.

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Proof there are 2 forms of MONEY in the US and always has been:

[link to mises.org]

[link to mises.org]

Even the 100 $ BILL has 2 notes, clearly divided by not only a line, but with actual GOLD on the US Treasury Note.

You people are too stupid to see the forest because there are trees in the way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


Here's the Picture of US Notes linked in this post, they have the RED SEAL for the US Treasury rather than the Black " Federal Reserve Bank" Seal you'll find one your money.

They are still in circulation, but no new bills have been made sense 1971, nor has Congress reissued them.

Only Congress has the power to issue US Notes, not the Fed, so the Congress can do it anytime they chose.

Sadly most of these bills are no longer circulating, and there are not enough of them.

All the US Notes made from 1928-1971 that you will see in circulation will have the Red Seal, that's how you can tell it's a US Note, that and it does NOT SAY "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE" anywhere on the bill.
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Just a question:

If the the FED is privately owned, why it's the President of the United States who DECIDE who will be the chairman of the FED?


wtf
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Dude, you are completely lost....
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Bush names Bernanke for Fed chief


Monday, 24 October 2005


President George W Bush has nominated Ben Bernanke to succeed Alan Greenspan as US Federal Reserve chairman.

The appointment needs to get Senate backing, and President Bush called for swift action to approve the decision.

"He will be an outstanding chairman of the Federal Reserve," Mr Bush said as he made the announcement.

Mr Bernanke is chief economic adviser to the government and had been widely tipped to replace Mr Greenspan, who will end his 18-year tenure in January.

source: [link to news.bbc.co.uk]



The Presidente of the United States appointed the chairman of the Federal Reserve
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Who tells the President who to pick......
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Proof there are 2 forms of MONEY in the US and always has been:

[link to mises.org]

[link to mises.org]

Even the 100 $ BILL has 2 notes, clearly divided by not only a line, but with actual GOLD on the US Treasury Note.

You people are too stupid to see the forest because there are trees in the way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


Here's the Picture of US Notes linked in this post, they have the RED SEAL for the US Treasury rather than the Black " Federal Reserve Bank" Seal you'll find one your money.

They are still in circulation, but no new bills have been made sense 1971, nor has Congress reissued them.

Only Congress has the power to issue US Notes, not the Fed, so the Congress can do it anytime they chose.

Sadly most of these bills are no longer circulating, and there are not enough of them.

All the US Notes made from 1928-1971 that you will see in circulation will have the Red Seal, that's how you can tell it's a US Note, that and it does NOT SAY "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE" anywhere on the bill.
 Quoting: King David 19584978


Again, you are an idiot, all currently issued notes above the $2 amount have 2 notes on the FACE. I know you are too stupid to see what is right in front of your face, so get off it already. FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE do not have FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE printed anywhere on them either, dumb ass.

They have [FEDERAL] and [RESERVE NOTE] but not in the same box, therefore, not the same thing. There is not one, but several lines between the expressons.

Really, you need to stop, you are just proving your IGNORANCE of law, legal matters and the question of money in general.

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

If you care to learn something.
Which I know you don't cause you are going to fix it with your fantasy of kicking the FED out America.

Keep dreaming dumb ass.
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Proof there are 2 forms of MONEY in the US and always has been:

[link to mises.org]

[link to mises.org]

Even the 100 $ BILL has 2 notes, clearly divided by not only a line, but with actual GOLD on the US Treasury Note.

You people are too stupid to see the forest because there are trees in the way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15339449


Here's the Picture of US Notes linked in this post, they have the RED SEAL for the US Treasury rather than the Black " Federal Reserve Bank" Seal you'll find one your money.

They are still in circulation, but no new bills have been made sense 1971, nor has Congress reissued them.

Only Congress has the power to issue US Notes, not the Fed, so the Congress can do it anytime they chose.

Sadly most of these bills are no longer circulating, and there are not enough of them.

All the US Notes made from 1928-1971 that you will see in circulation will have the Red Seal, that's how you can tell it's a US Note, that and it does NOT SAY "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE" anywhere on the bill.
 Quoting: King David 19584978


And the RED sealed NOTES were United States BANK NOTES, there is no United States Bank any more. Just the treasury and every FRN has the seal of the Treasury in a separate NOTE.

"legal tender
n.
Legally valid currency that may be offered in payment of a debt and that a creditor must accept."
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."

[link to www.treasury.gov]

That is called circular reasoning and the Government is great at it. Legal tender is defined as "valid currency that MAY be offered in payment of a debt AND that a creditor MUST accept.


Then the US Treasury website spells out that US coins and Currency do NOT have to be accepted by anyone for payment of goods or services.

So, what, exactly are FRNS used for legally?

12 USC 411 spells out: "...for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized."
[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

So, while you legally tender (hold out as an OFFER) a payment with Federal Reserve Notes, nobody MUST accept them as payment for any goods or services.

And in fact, the ONLY authorized use of FRNS is "for the purpose of making advances to Federal Reserve Banks through the Federal reserve agents AND FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE"

So, only Federal reserve agents can use FRNs and then ONLY for said notes authorized purpose (which is NOT for payments of debts).

"They shall be redeemed ON DEMAND".

So for those who still do not get it:

Since the 1700's there has been paper currency. Since 1913, there have been Federal Reserve Notes and FRNs only use is clearly spelled out in title 12 (the federal reserve act).

If there is no other paper currency out there, the Government is FORCING you to violate the Law and use FRNs for unauthorized acts.

Do you really buy the stand of King ignorant that the Government is forcing him to violate the law and not providing a REMEDY for the Federal reserve system?

If so, all is lost, there is no law and no freedom, you are a SLAVE.
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