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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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there's a lot of wires out there... still.
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
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Would anyone care to speculate what a large electromagnetic discharge on earth would do to unprotected hard drives and storage drives..?

Most everything is stored digitally..

medical records, bank records, etc.

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yup this is a better question bump for a hopeful answer.

i worry more about a magnetic pole shift, assuming the pos/neg poles in magnetics would change worldwide. but crazy CMEs have been more prominent and they may be damaging
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The proton flux recovery time keeps going higher

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I dont think this week is going to end well
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There is no substantive scientific evidence to suggest that energetic proton events are harmful to human health at ground levels, particularly at latitudes where most of the Earth's population resides. The Earth's magnetic field is exceptionally good at preventing the radiative effects of energetic particles from reaching ground levels. High altitude commercial transpolar aircraft flights have measured increases in radiation during energetic proton events, but a warning system is in place that limits these effects by alerting pilots to lower their cruising altitudes. Aircraft flights away from the polar regions are far less likely to see an impact from solar proton events.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Theres always secondary radiation from a larger event
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404




Would anyone care to speculate what a large electromagnetic discharge on earth would do to unprotected hard drives and storage drives..?

Most everything is stored digitally..

medical records, bank records, etc.

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It would format the Earth's hard drive :)
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The proton flux recovery time keeps going higher

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I dont think this week is going to end well
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There is no substantive scientific evidence to suggest that energetic proton events are harmful to human health at ground levels, particularly at latitudes where most of the Earth's population resides. The Earth's magnetic field is exceptionally good at preventing the radiative effects of energetic particles from reaching ground levels. High altitude commercial transpolar aircraft flights have measured increases in radiation during energetic proton events, but a warning system is in place that limits these effects by alerting pilots to lower their cruising altitudes. Aircraft flights away from the polar regions are far less likely to see an impact from solar proton events.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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But isnt our magnetic field failing now
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Does your compass still work ?
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
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Would anyone care to speculate what a large electromagnetic discharge on earth would do to unprotected hard drives and storage drives..?

Most everything is stored digitally..

medical records, bank records, etc.

~
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that are all hooked to ground

my guess is, as was said before

stone age
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
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it's been over 100 years i'm sure we've improved some techniques...
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I wish that were true...

But, you can bet the Gubberment Sats/Stuff are all protected (led lined) ;-) Then they can all watch us idiots light fires with a bow/string/straw/work...
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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there's a lot of wires out there... still.
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Absolutely.

And we use micro and nano tech now...

Much more sensitive than all of the hard parts that can be fixed with a soldering iron. Most everything is surface mount semi conductors now...
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I love when people bring up the Carrington Event as if we are still using telegraphs and technology from 1859
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404


it's been over 100 years i'm sure we've improved some techniques...
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I wish that were true...

But, you can bet the Gubberment Sats/Stuff are all protected (led lined) ;-) Then they can all watch us idiots light fires with a bow/string/straw/work...
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is there any way to encase HDDs so the data will not be lost?
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The strength of the Earth's magnetic field has decreased 10 percent over the past 150 years, raising the remote possibility that it may collapse and later reverse, flipping the planet's poles for the first time in nearly a million years, scientists said Thursday.
At the current rate of decline, the field could vanish altogether in 1,500 to 2,000 years, said Jeremy Bloxham of Harvard University.
Hundreds of years could pass before a flip-flopped field returned to where it was 780,000 years ago.
However, scientists at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union cautioned that scenario is an unlikely one.
"The chances are it will not," Bloxham said. "Reversals are a rare event."


[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
12 / 12 / 2003
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
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The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar ... that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45 Read Again... X45

[link to www.space.com]

I mean I love science and I find it interesting to know what is going on with our solar system but I wouldn't poop my pants over a small flare.

We had a X28+...AN X28!! 4/11/03 and we did not lose our electricity then so I'm going to go on a hunch we wont right now either... I can not imagine the mass panic and hysteria on this site during that day. God it had to be marvelous


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YOUR wrong Buddy,,... you should read evey thing when you read...


"2003: The Ultra-Powerful Halloween Sun Storm((
The sensor topped out at X28, already a massive flare), but later analysis found that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45, NASA has said.
The solar storm was part of a string of at least nine major flares over a two-week period.
))
""



Solar Flare Classifications

Solar flares are classified as A, B, C, M or X according to the peak flux (in watts per square meter, W/m2) of 100 to 800 picometer X-rays near Earth, as measured on the GOES spacecraft. Each class has a peak flux ten times greater than the preceding one, with X class flares having a peak flux of order 10-4 W/m2. Within a class there is a linear scale from 1 to 9, so an X2 flare is twice as powerful as an X1 flare, and is four times more powerful than an M5 flare. The more powerful M and X class flares are often associated with a variety of effects on the near-Earth space environment.

1859: The Carrington Event

The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar flare impacting Earth. The flare was the largest documented solar storm in the last 500 years, NASA scientists have said.
It also caused severe interruptions in global telegraph communications, even shocking some telegraph operators and sparking fires when discharges from the lines ignited telegraph paper, according to a NASA description.
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The strength of the Earth's magnetic field has decreased 10 percent over the past 150 years, raising the remote possibility that it may collapse and later reverse, flipping the planet's poles for the first time in nearly a million years, scientists said Thursday.
At the current rate of decline, the field could vanish altogether in 1,500 to 2,000 years, said Jeremy Bloxham of Harvard University.
Hundreds of years could pass before a flip-flopped field returned to where it was 780,000 years ago.
However, scientists at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union cautioned that scenario is an unlikely one.
"The chances are it will not," Bloxham said. "Reversals are a rare event."


[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
12 / 12 / 2003
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19433400


So lets say it takes 2000 more years for the earth's magnetic field to drop down to 0%. It will still take several hundred years after the fact to even have a Doomsday pole flip flop
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Whats up brutha..thanks for swinging by....
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The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar ... that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45 Read Again... X45

[link to www.space.com]

I mean I love science and I find it interesting to know what is going on with our solar system but I wouldn't poop my pants over a small flare.

We had a X28+...AN X28!! 4/11/03 and we did not lose our electricity then so I'm going to go on a hunch we wont right now either... I can not imagine the mass panic and hysteria on this site during that day. God it had to be marvelous


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YOUR wrong Buddy,,... you should read evey thing when you read...


"2003: The Ultra-Powerful Halloween Sun Storm((
The sensor topped out at X28, already a massive flare), but later analysis found that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45, NASA has said.
The solar storm was part of a string of at least nine major flares over a two-week period.
))
""



Solar Flare Classifications

Solar flares are classified as A, B, C, M or X according to the peak flux (in watts per square meter, W/m2) of 100 to 800 picometer X-rays near Earth, as measured on the GOES spacecraft. Each class has a peak flux ten times greater than the preceding one, with X class flares having a peak flux of order 10-4 W/m2. Within a class there is a linear scale from 1 to 9, so an X2 flare is twice as powerful as an X1 flare, and is four times more powerful than an M5 flare. The more powerful M and X class flares are often associated with a variety of effects on the near-Earth space environment.

1859: The Carrington Event

The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar flare impacting Earth. The flare was the largest documented solar storm in the last 500 years, NASA scientists have said.
It also caused severe interruptions in global telegraph communications, even shocking some telegraph operators and sparking fires when discharges from the lines ignited telegraph paper, according to a NASA description.
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Your right I did not go into detail and spew out the entire thing.. But your only proving my point even more
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404


it's been over 100 years i'm sure we've improved some techniques...
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I wish that were true...

But, you can bet the Gubberment Sats/Stuff are all protected (led lined) ;-) Then they can all watch us idiots light fires with a bow/string/straw/work...
 Quoting: DDan2


is there any way to encase HDDs so the data will not be lost?
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


as a totally disconnected back up in a grounded farady cage, in theory
probably would not hurt to double or triple the cage

connected to the grid, never
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
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Yep its the big power transformers on the electricity grids that would be at risk from a major CME because they are grounded and its the high ground currents from major CMEs that can overload transformers and cause them to fail. The coils inside can even melt, not an quick thing to fix!
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The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar ... that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45 Read Again... X45

[link to www.space.com]

I mean I love science and I find it interesting to know what is going on with our solar system but I wouldn't poop my pants over a small flare.

We had a X28+...AN X28!! 4/11/03 and we did not lose our electricity then so I'm going to go on a hunch we wont right now either... I can not imagine the mass panic and hysteria on this site during that day. God it had to be marvelous


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YOUR wrong Buddy,,... you should read evey thing when you read...


"2003: The Ultra-Powerful Halloween Sun Storm((
The sensor topped out at X28, already a massive flare), but later analysis found that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45, NASA has said.
The solar storm was part of a string of at least nine major flares over a two-week period.
))
""



Solar Flare Classifications

Solar flares are classified as A, B, C, M or X according to the peak flux (in watts per square meter, W/m2) of 100 to 800 picometer X-rays near Earth, as measured on the GOES spacecraft. Each class has a peak flux ten times greater than the preceding one, with X class flares having a peak flux of order 10-4 W/m2. Within a class there is a linear scale from 1 to 9, so an X2 flare is twice as powerful as an X1 flare, and is four times more powerful than an M5 flare. The more powerful M and X class flares are often associated with a variety of effects on the near-Earth space environment.

1859: The Carrington Event

The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar flare impacting Earth. The flare was the largest documented solar storm in the last 500 years, NASA scientists have said.
It also caused severe interruptions in global telegraph communications, even shocking some telegraph operators and sparking fires when discharges from the lines ignited telegraph paper, according to a NASA description.
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- [link to www.space.com]

Nothing about X45 for this one..

It was just a big 1..cool2
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
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And unlike the old DC telegraphs, our a/c grid will kick out in the event of such emp, they have trip breakers ya know..

On top of that, EVERY power line in the US has a top ground wire, connected to a ground at very pole, so in such event it will absorb almost all emf coming down not effecting the system...

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Im not trying to be ignorant, but does anyone know how long it takes for these things to make contact with out atmosphere? I looked and got a few answers...around 12-17 hours
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The flare has already made contact with the earth. If the CME is heading for us then it will take from 1 to a couple of days depending on the speed.
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19129594


And unlike the old DC telegraphs, our a/c grid will kick out in the event of such emp, they have trip breakers ya know..

On top of that, EVERY power line in the US has a top ground wire, connected to a ground at very pole, so in such event it will absorb almost all emf coming down not effecting the system...

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clappa
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19129594


Yep its the big power transformers on the electricity grids that would be at risk from a major CME because they are grounded and its the high ground currents from major CMEs that can overload transformers and cause them to fail. The coils inside can even melt, not an quick thing to fix!
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AFAIK.. made only in china and a 5 year backlog.

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long with that, if you all want power grid doom, give up on the cme crap...

true grid doom came last week to millions, if a solar storm hits & generates massive storms of 85+ mph winds, that true grid doom...
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
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laugh

have you ever worked in an electronics repair shop
power surges do take out components
one surge makes the little conditioner strip you plug your stuff into potentially useless

and not just the power supply, but that would be bad enough
when we first moved here and had a land line, if the kids left the modem connected, lightening in the county soccer fields would kill my modem

I'll bet I put a dozen in the old hp pavilion


oh, and if its CE approved, its worse,
better shielding (which connects to ground)
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hint hint there sparky

that stuff was tough by todays standards

our modern semiconductors would have a real problem with an event like that

hhhmmm....maybe it will take down all the bank servers

oh boy, double doom (sun and $$$)
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it's been over 100 years i'm sure we've improved some techniques...
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I wish that were true...

But, you can bet the Gubberment Sats/Stuff are all protected (led lined) ;-) Then they can all watch us idiots light fires with a bow/string/straw/work...
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is there any way to encase HDDs so the data will not be lost?
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LOL ... I wish. It will be like we (or parts of the world) were put into a degausser if an X20+ hits us.

But funnier is that if you attempt to protect it so you do not lose anything, the best would be to surround your PC with LED and unplug all wires from it.

I haven't the foggyest what will happen if we are bombarded to be honest...but if you are prepared you are one step ahead of the next.
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WHEN DOES IT HIT EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE?
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19129594


And unlike the old DC telegraphs, our a/c grid will kick out in the event of such emp, they have trip breakers ya know..

On top of that, EVERY power line in the US has a top ground wire, connected to a ground at very pole, so in such event it will absorb almost all emf coming down not effecting the system...

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A CME from an X15 flare did this kind of damage to transformers in Canada in 1989 :

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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I'm starting to feel like a fucking shill at this point.

I just cant stand seeing people spend 10 hours on GLP with maybe 1\10 of the actual data of something

But they wont spend 1-2 hours learning about something via google or whatever search engine you use. And then these wannabe non informed "scientists" run around on this site scaring the shit out of people with misinformation.

I'm no scientist and there is a lot of people that no far more than I do on this subject but at least I do my research so when I do actually post I know what I'm talking about not just repeating shit they read on a conspiracy forum
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
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Yep its the big power transformers on the electricity grids that would be at risk from a major CME because they are grounded and its the high ground currents from major CMEs that can overload transformers and cause them to fail. The coils inside can even melt, not an quick thing to fix!
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AFAIK.. made only in china and a 5 year backlog.

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yup, and where does the excessive current go when the sub station is saturated

that 3rd wire in the wall socket
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a cme can and only will affect power grids!

your laptop and computers are not going to be affected as they all have ECM protection on the power supply unit!

The moment the electricity fluctuate too low or too high it shuts down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19129594


Yep its the big power transformers on the electricity grids that would be at risk from a major CME because they are grounded and its the high ground currents from major CMEs that can overload transformers and cause them to fail. The coils inside can even melt, not an quick thing to fix!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7546576


AFAIK.. made only in china and a 5 year backlog.

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


yup, and where does the excessive current go when the sub station is saturated

that 3rd wire in the wall socket
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opps to be correct, the neutral and the ground, as they are both connected

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