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Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...

 
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we have an X.
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doomtards rejoice!!
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banana2pump2dance
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Im not trying to be ignorant, but does anyone know how long it takes for these things to make contact with out atmosphere? I looked and got a few answers...around 12-17 hours
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someone said earlier that protons could reach us in minutes, which would explain headaches, etc. we must check wikipedia.
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abomb tissue
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The proton flux recovery time keeps going higher

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I dont think this week is going to end well
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There is no substantive scientific evidence to suggest that energetic proton events are harmful to human health at ground levels, particularly at latitudes where most of the Earth's population resides. The Earth's magnetic field is exceptionally good at preventing the radiative effects of energetic particles from reaching ground levels. High altitude commercial transpolar aircraft flights have measured increases in radiation during energetic proton events, but a warning system is in place that limits these effects by alerting pilots to lower their cruising altitudes. Aircraft flights away from the polar regions are far less likely to see an impact from solar proton events.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Theres always secondary radiation from a larger event
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yeah, and what about the much vaunted holes in the magnetosphere?
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don't get caught up in the whole ''killshot'' scenario...


a CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system is not of immediate importance...


a CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake is of immediate importance...


the Earth has been building up a lot of pressure because of the incoming energies bombarding it...


all it take a good size CME/solar flare to hit us to trigger the pressure...


be prepared for a 7+ Mag Earthquake in the next couple of days if this CME/solar flare impacts the Earth



may the gods be with us all...
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Double proton storm nicely seen in the latest Herschel radiation monitor data:
[link to proteus.space.noa.gr]
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Re: Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...
don't get caught up in the whole ''killshot'' scenario...


a CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system is not of immediate importance...


a CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake is of immediate importance...


the Earth has been building up a lot of pressure because of the incoming energies bombarding it...


all it take a good size CME/solar flare to hit us to trigger the pressure...


be prepared for a 7+ Mag Earthquake in the next couple of days if this CME/solar flare impacts the Earth



may the gods be with us all...
 Quoting: DXTH ST4R 19584872


Watch here the next few days : [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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Re: Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...
The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar ... that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45 Read Again... X45

[link to www.space.com]

I mean I love science and I find it interesting to know what is going on with our solar system but I wouldn't poop my pants over a small flare.

We had a X28+...AN X28!! 4/11/03 and we did not lose our electricity then so I'm going to go on a hunch we wont right now either... I can not imagine the mass panic and hysteria on this site during that day. God it had to be marvelous


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YOUR wrong Buddy,,... you should read evey thing when you read...


"2003: The Ultra-Powerful Halloween Sun Storm((
The sensor topped out at X28, already a massive flare), but later analysis found that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45, NASA has said.
The solar storm was part of a string of at least nine major flares over a two-week period.
))
""



Solar Flare Classifications

Solar flares are classified as A, B, C, M or X according to the peak flux (in watts per square meter, W/m2) of 100 to 800 picometer X-rays near Earth, as measured on the GOES spacecraft. Each class has a peak flux ten times greater than the preceding one, with X class flares having a peak flux of order 10-4 W/m2. Within a class there is a linear scale from 1 to 9, so an X2 flare is twice as powerful as an X1 flare, and is four times more powerful than an M5 flare. The more powerful M and X class flares are often associated with a variety of effects on the near-Earth space environment.

1859: The Carrington Event

The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar flare impacting Earth. The flare was the largest documented solar storm in the last 500 years, NASA scientists have said.
It also caused severe interruptions in global telegraph communications, even shocking some telegraph operators and sparking fires when discharges from the lines ignited telegraph paper, according to a NASA description.
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a smaller flare headed straight at us is worse than a huge one headed away. direction, direction, direction.
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don't get caught up in the whole ''killshot'' scenario...


a CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system is not of immediate importance...


a CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake is of immediate importance...


the Earth has been building up a lot of pressure because of the incoming energies bombarding it...


all it take a good size CME/solar flare to hit us to trigger the pressure...


be prepared for a 7+ Mag Earthquake in the next couple of days if this CME/solar flare impacts the Earth



may the gods be with us all...
 Quoting: DXTH ST4R 19584872


this guy has it right here. friday the 13th tomorrow is fast approaching
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don't get caught up in the whole ''killshot'' scenario...


a CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system is not of immediate importance...


a CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake is of immediate importance...


the Earth has been building up a lot of pressure because of the incoming energies bombarding it...


all it take a good size CME/solar flare to hit us to trigger the pressure...


be prepared for a 7+ Mag Earthquake in the next couple of days if this CME/solar flare impacts the Earth



may the gods be with us all...
 Quoting: DXTH ST4R 19584872


this guy has it right here. friday the 13th tomorrow is fast approaching
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we're all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!omfgalone
just a dumb broke boy
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This was going on around 18:00 UT today, yes it was still a High M, in my backyard. Didn't faze the varmints one bit. This morning the Cranes were fighting the Crows...

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Yep its the big power transformers on the electricity grids that would be at risk from a major CME because they are grounded and its the high ground currents from major CMEs that can overload transformers and cause them to fail. The coils inside can even melt, not an quick thing to fix!
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thanks for sharing this very useful info
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unfortunately their info is incorrect
prepare as you will
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SOOO, should I just unplug stuff then or would it even matter?
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just bring in the tomatoes.
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don't get caught up in the whole ''killshot'' scenario...


CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system is not of immediate importance...

CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake is of immediate importance...




may the gods be with us all...
 Quoting: DXTH ST4R 19584872


this guy has it right here. friday the 13th tomorrow is fast approaching
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


may the gods be with us all...


IF


CME/solar flare bringing down our electrical grid system ...

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CME/solar flare triggering a massive earthquake ...

~
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Thanks!
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You're welcome.

I should have said how to do it...highlight your link then click on the Youtube button.
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give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day...
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Thanks!
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You're welcome.

I should have said how to do it...highlight your link then click on the Youtube button.
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give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day...
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Teach a man to fish and he'll drink beer all day
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Thread: Huge power surge in my town just now


UPDATE: whole fuse block blown out, every single circuit is fried. WTF.
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Re: Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...
What the bejesus!

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]


That is one heck of a flare and CME!!!


Buckle up for the 14th and the 15th!!!
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Ok, I've been monitoring the sun for awhile now, and today's CME is actually one of the nastiest I've ever seen. Not because it's so strong, but because the blast hit Earth dead center

Very rare...
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Ok, I've been monitoring the sun for awhile now, and today's CME is actually one of the nastiest I've ever seen. Not because it's so strong, but because the blast hit Earth dead center

Very rare...
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Yes, quite the geoeffective hit
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Ok, I've been monitoring the sun for awhile now, and today's CME is actually one of the nastiest I've ever seen. Not because it's so strong, but because the blast hit Earth dead center

Very rare...
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Yes, quite the geoeffective hit
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ohyeahohyeah
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What the bejesus!

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]


That is one heck of a flare and CME!!!


Buckle up for the 14th and the 15th!!!
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yes it sure is. God speed.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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Proton flux just climb and climb... [link to www.n3kl.org]
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wtf
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Re: Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...
Today's CME forecast to hit us Sat., between 3 am & 5 pm EDT. Moderate to severe activity (Kp 6-8) possible.

Here's the ISWA Model:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

i will need some beer now sun makes me reeeeeal thirsty now^^
:hofbräuduur:
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was? now you germans are stealing amerikanski beer guzzling customs?
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Today's CME forecast to hit us Sat., between 3 am & 5 pm EDT. Moderate to severe activity (Kp 6-8) possible.

Here's the ISWA Model:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

i will need some beer now sun makes me reeeeeal thirsty now^^
:hofbräuduur:
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was? now you germans are stealing amerikanski beer guzzling customs?
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A little beer, a little sunsceen and a tinfoil hat and we'll be OH kay. (I hope)
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Ok, I've been monitoring the sun for awhile now, and today's CME is actually one of the nastiest I've ever seen. Not because it's so strong, but because the blast hit Earth dead center

Very rare...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13578021


oh there have been far bigger than this one in some of the older records of last solar max. This one, because of increasing changes with earth and magnetosphere may bring forth some large quakes, or not. we wait and see.

It is not possible to be sure on 2 d images if this CME will hit a little ahead, or behind etc of us. NASAs images have been quite in error sometimes. We get ones which didn't hit as suggested and ones that over hit as suggested and it has a lot to do with intervening space conditions too. And where star fleet tames or not.
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Humongous solar flare erupts in our direction (+video)

The strongest solar storm of the summer so far could send a wave of charged particles toward our planet that could supercharge northern lights displays, NASA scientists say.


[link to www.csmonitor.com]
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Im not trying to be ignorant, but does anyone know how long it takes for these things to make contact with out atmosphere? I looked and got a few answers...around 12-17 hours
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Im not trying to be ignorant, but does anyone know how long it takes for these things to make contact with out atmosphere? I looked and got a few answers...around 12-17 hours
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flares make contact IN MINUTES, the CME usually 2 to 5 days
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


x 6.9's obviously do NOT fry power grids nor the satellites involved.
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wow candy,
didn't know you had an EE degree

or did the aliens tell you this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404


No my own observation did. we have had bigger ones than that without any fried grids. No EE degree needed to do self study and observation. OK. I have been watching this stuff since oh 2003 or so, and then I researched old records, and memory and we just haven't had much fried anything from that level of flare.

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