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Sunspot 1520 Kicking one out right now..X -flare and still rising..LDE..X1.4...

 
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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It definately has a CME associated with it....SDO images are showing the CME...Thanks for posting tho...;)
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From spaceweather.com:

-FLARE Big sunspot AR1520 unleashed an X1.4-class solar flare on July 12th at 1653 UT. Because the sunspot was directly facing Earth at the time of the blast, this is a geoeffective event. Stay tuned for updates about possible CMEs and radio blackouts.

NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded a flash of extreme ultraviolet radiation from the blast site:

The UV and X-ray pulse from the flare will have partially ionized Earth's upper atmosphere on the dayside of our planet, disturbing the normal propagation of radio signals. Watch the Realtime Space Weather Gallery for possible reports of sudden ionospheric disturbances and other effects.

No doom....but very interesting nonetheless!
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The HF blackouts have already happened. We had an R3 event.
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Proton flux still rising sharply.

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Update @ 18:32 UTC July 12, 2012
A CME can now be seen on STEREO B. This CME does appear to be earth directed. STEREO A has not updated since 14:24 UTC today
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ref Nin`s post above on CME

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Update @ 18:32 UTC July 12, 2012
A CME can now be seen on STEREO B. This CME does appear to be earth directed. STEREO A has not updated since 14:24 UTC today
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]
images at link
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I posted this awhile back now here already as to the stereo B lilk which I provided, there are no more on stereo b right now either.
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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hhhmmmmm....

convienient
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Worth remember that there have been 9 flares bigger than this one during this solar cycle and there was nothing to worry about on earth from any of those.
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most of those flares were not earth directed. the ones that were, barley were directed at earth.

most of you may think all you get from most cme and flares is pretty boring aurora but skin cancer is the worst thing people in high latitudes have to worry about with strong earth directed flares and cme.

if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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makes you wonder what was so damn important to be looking away from a big sunspot
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Zombies em cali soon.
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880906


so was there a cme? im so confused...i dont get this stuff lol!
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if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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uh no it wouldn't
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eq [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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Update @ 18:32 UTC July 12, 2012
A CME can now be seen on STEREO B. This CME does appear to be earth directed. STEREO A has not updated since 14:24 UTC today
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]
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Looks like most of it went downward. We should get some pretty lights up North though. Wish we could see them down in Florida.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880906


so was there a cme? im so confused...i dont get this stuff lol!
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Can you READ, we, 2 or more of us have posted there is a CME and posted the LINK to the one image so far on STEREO. REAd, READ, READ. OK. Please spend some of your own efforts to read and study otherwise. I have a teaching thread here, please spend some time learning from it. It is also a thread where I just post stuff for my own records. Thread: Nip's solar/quake thread read the first few pages on it. NICT is no longer available so can ignore NICT links.

Flares are not CMES, they come from sunspots and magnetic filaments but a CME MAY be ejected with them. There is a CME visible on stereo behind that is consistant with a CME being ejected. The flare has already arrive on earth minutes after it happened, this is what flares do. Any CMES ejected generally arrive 2 to 5 days later. A CME is a matter ejection.

There are now 4 clear images of the CME on Stereo BEhind. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Stereo AHead and soho are not yet posting.
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What if 1519, 1520, 1521 combine into a massive sunspot?

Has something like this ever happened?
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Worth remember that there have been 9 flares bigger than this one during this solar cycle and there was nothing to worry about on earth from any of those.
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most of those flares were not earth directed. the ones that were, barley were directed at earth.

most of you may think all you get from most cme and flares is pretty boring aurora but skin cancer is the worst thing people in high latitudes have to worry about with strong earth directed flares and cme.

if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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LOL what?

There was an X5 flare on July 14, 2000 that launched a full halo CME directly at earth that caused no power failures.

The 1989 storm that caused a 9 hour powercut in Québec came from an earth directed CME after an X15 flare.

So how exactly would a X6.9 send us back to the stone age when an X5 has no impact and a much bigger X15 just left Québec without power for less than half a day?
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880906


It definately has a CME associated with it

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yup..and check out the anomaly in the forth frame

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if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
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if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
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x 6.9's obviously do NOT fry power grids nor the satellites involved.
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if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


x 6.9's obviously do NOT free power grids nor the satellites involved.
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wow candy,
didn't know you had an EE degree

or did the aliens tell you this?
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


x 6.9's obviously do NOT free power grids nor the satellites involved.
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wow candy,
didn't know you had an EE degree

or did the aliens tell you this?
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yeah they do you idiot, why do you think they shut them down.
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if the strongest x flare to come from this solar cycle X6.9 flare were earth directed it would have caused us to go back to the stone age.
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uh no it wouldn't
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
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Do some research into "The Carrington Event" of 1859. Big solar flare and CME.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

There is a couple links to get you started.

Yes, The Carrington Event would probably be most unpleasant if it were to happen today.
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880906


so was there a cme? im so confused...i dont get this stuff lol!
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Can you READ, we, 2 or more of us have posted there is a CME and posted the LINK to the one image so far on STEREO. REAd, READ, READ. OK. Please spend some of your own efforts to read and study otherwise. I have a teaching thread here, please spend some time learning from it. It is also a thread where I just post stuff for my own records. Thread: Nip's solar/quake thread read the first few pages on it. NICT is no longer available so can ignore NICT links.

Flares are not CMES, they come from sunspots and magnetic filaments but a CME MAY be ejected with them. There is a CME visible on stereo behind that is consistant with a CME being ejected. The flare has already arrive on earth minutes after it happened, this is what flares do. Any CMES ejected generally arrive 2 to 5 days later. A CME is a matter ejection.

There are now 4 clear images of the CME on Stereo BEhind. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Stereo AHead and soho are not yet posting.
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very informative thankyou and if i wasnt at work i would read threw here more lol!
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It is not yet known whether the flare was accompanied by a coronal mass ejection (CME) - an outburst of particles that can trigger a geomagnetic storm on Earth and damage the electrical grid.

Joe Kunches of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder said one of the NASA satellites tasked with watching for solar weather, SOHO, was “on maneuvers” when the flare launched.

That will make the task of predicting the course of any subsequent CME more difficult.

“The home plate umpire wasn’t paying any attention,” said Kunches.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880906


makes you wonder what was so damn important to be looking away from a big sunspot
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I Agree!
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stone age as in our power grid would have been fried along with some satellites that provide tv, cell phone service, and internet.

and without those 4 things right there it would be our stone age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


x 6.9's obviously do NOT free power grids nor the satellites involved.
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wow candy,
didn't know you had an EE degree

or did the aliens tell you this?
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yeah they do you idiot, why do you think they shut them down.
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why am I the idiot?
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The Carrington Event of 1859 was the first documented event of a solar ... that the flare reached a peak strength of about X45 Read Again... X45

[link to www.space.com]

I mean I love science and I find it interesting to know what is going on with our solar system but I wouldn't poop my pants over a small flare.

We had a X28+...AN X28!! 4/11/03 and we did not lose our electricity then so I'm going to go on a hunch we wont right now either... I can not imagine the mass panic and hysteria on this site during that day. God it had to be marvelous

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Yesssss! .. space weather said directly earth directed .. still having an m-flare!!!

Thanks op!! .. & the sun :)
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