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T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 19604960  United States07/12/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end of June marked a tense Pluto and Uranus square which foretold tensions and accidents. Astrologers around the world warned of high profile break ups and nationwide news that would capture our attention and it sure did with weather chaos holding the United States in tense grip. Major flooding of the Century in Duluth Minnesota and record breaking fires in Colorado burning down hundreds of homes highlighted a fire and water prophecy that brought us into July. Quoting: APOLLYON PROMETHEUS 2012 This will go down as the forth of July tension of fire and water disrupting our lives. In the Tarot Arcana we have card # 20 which is Judgement and the symbol of FIRE trine. Its Hebrew association is the letter Shin for "tooth" Then there is card # 12 which is the Hanged Man and the symbol of WATER trine. Its Hebrew association is the letter Mem for "water" The year 2012 featured a frightening aspect of Fire and Water which forms the alchemical marriage and the two trines of the Star of David. Male and Female powers combined. One marriage that fulfilled or failed this aspect was Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise announcing their divorce. Scientology was rumored to play a part of Katies dissatisfaction because she is the one that filed. The Mother figure is angry and natures wrath is testament. It seemed that the United States was under intense pressure from both elements with the Duluth flooding and more than 100 million dollars worth Northland infrastructure flooding.. You have the East coast shoreline rising and the 1,200 records broken this year for triple digit temperatures in 25 states. In Colorado Springs over 350 homes were lost in a foothills forest fire. Water and storm even knocked power lines down in Maryland, Washington DC and Virginia leaving millions without power and air conditioning. What comes to mind is a Revelation verse Revelation 16: 8,9 , And the fourth one poured out his bowl upon the sun, and to the sun it was granted to scorch the men with fire. And the men were scorched with great heat, but they blasphemed the name of God who has the authority over these plagues and they did not repent so as to give glory to him. We also have what is considered the third Mayan Prophecy of heat wave and climate chaos blanketing the world and being part of the transition and upheaval as we are now in the year of the infamous December 21, 2012 approaching and the ending of this age according the the Mayan calendar. Is this the stirrings of Apocalypse? I wish you safety and peace during this stressful summer. I am back from vacation right now after being the wilderness doing my meditations and will be getting back to responding to my inbox. -Apollo "An Apocalypse (Greek: “lifting of the veil” or “revelation”) is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted." — Wikipedia with all due respect, all your religious and astrological BS will have even less meaning, if it is possible to reduce zero meaning even further, when DHS is pointing a gun at your head ... when this happens, we all will become 100% accurate psychics between the time the weapon discharges and the bullet begins to enter our face One day you will see you were wrong. But carry on, and enjoy it while it lasts... How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19628404 United States07/12/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404 fresh water is hard to get how many wells have you owned? shallow wells get ground water extremely deep will be in the nat. gas/oil well range [link to www.britannica.com] we had a guy we knew in mo that had 3 sank on a beautiful piece of property for $10k and never got enough water to flush a toilet at 1000 ft it would require ~450 psi just to push it out of the hole. then the power to push that pressure and any realistic flow would mean some serious HP in the pumps (more power to run) then the fact that you can't just hang a pipe down a 1000 ft hole without serious support means epic fail and by the way, most depression well were 20-40 foot hand dug ones and flood the desert, wow, you should work for the dept of ag with that thinking flooding the desert could have a multitude of bad things happen. first destroy the land to to excessive salt how much water do you thing it would take before it stopped soaking in? lots then the desert becomes subject to tides, and with the way beaches behave, could result in a totally different topagraphy, possibly a giant salty mud pit from the tidal agitation. then the shear weight of the water on top of strata that has never carried that kind of weight before could cause seismic instability. the changing of a hot dry area to a watershed will also probably completely change weather patterns if we could seed clouds and make it rain any time we wanted, don't you think that the farmers would be buying flight time as we speak? do you have any engineering or 12th grade science knowledge? |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 19604960 United States07/12/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404 Make sense to me now, I didn't know they were going dry. Biblically we can see that God punishes "Kings" for their sins, and that people will suffer as a result of it. A good example of this is when King David did the censes on the Israelites, which resulted in the death of 70,000 people. I'm not going to say this is indeed the reason that drought and the super derecho storm happened, but I do think its very interesting to note that if we look at Obama and his administration's actions prior to these events happening, Obama came out in support of Gay Marriage around May 9th. And around May 21st The Catholic Church filed lawsuit with the support of Christian Evangelists, Mormons and jewish people - against the Obama administration for its attack on religious freedom and rights. Dolan has tried to talk with Obama for some time but there is never any response from the administration: “We have tried negotiation with the Administration and legislation with the Congress – and we’ll keep at it – but there's still no fix,” said Cardinal Dolan, who is the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. “Time is running out, and our valuable ministries and fundamental rights hang in the balance, so we have to resort to the courts now,” he explained in a May 21 statement. Just sayin... something to think about... How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19628404 United States07/12/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you can flood death valley with sea water and get either evaporation, or a fresh water table for irrigation. Seems like a desert on the east side of the nist of existing baja inlet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19565086 But the panama canal is relevant to the comment about the Mississippi river. The canal and river have supported millions of transits by sea vessels. Bigger bang for the buck than for irrigation, which as mentioned by others also requires power and infrastructure even if you have the water. a lateral canal set of canals thru the midwest would possibly be useful, and allow for some fresh water transfer |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 19604960 United States07/12/2012 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg I'm talking 1000 foot wells and my suggestions> if the US can built a panama canal back in the days of older machines..they can cut a channel up the gulf of baja into death valley(deal with mexico on it) and let the oceans fill death valley and the evaporating vapor will bring rain to the deserts...same concept with the Mississippi river,cut channels west like highways...i would go with the baja canal...then in a few years the salt left behind could be mined... at 1000 ft it would require ~450 psi just to push it out of the hole. then the power to push that pressure and any realistic flow would mean some serious HP in the pumps (more power to run) then the fact that you can't just hang a pipe down a 1000 ft hole without serious support means epic fail and by the way, most depression well were 20-40 foot hand dug ones and flood the desert, wow, you should work for the dept of ag with that thinking flooding the desert could have a multitude of bad things happen. first destroy the land to to excessive salt how much water do you thing it would take before it stopped soaking in? lots then the desert becomes subject to tides, and with the way beaches behave, could result in a totally different topagraphy, possibly a giant salty mud pit from the tidal agitation. then the shear weight of the water on top of strata that has never carried that kind of weight before could cause seismic instability. the changing of a hot dry area to a watershed will also probably completely change weather patterns if we could seed clouds and make it rain any time we wanted, don't you think that the farmers would be buying flight time as we speak? do you have any engineering or 12th grade science knowledge? Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 07/12/2012 05:10 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19565086 United States07/12/2012 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you can flood death valley with sea water and get either evaporation, or a fresh water table for irrigation. Seems like a desert on the east side of the nist of existing baja inlet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19565086 But the panama canal is relevant to the comment about the Mississippi river. The canal and river have supported millions of transits by sea vessels. Bigger bang for the buck than for irrigation, which as mentioned by others also requires power and infrastructure even if you have the water. a lateral canal set of canals thru the midwest would possibly be useful, and allow for some fresh water transfer Would not fly if you are thinking of taking it from the Ohio/Mississippi/Missouri rivers. Lots of coal, grain, oil, etc moves through these rivers and they are constantly dredging them, even before the drought. Theoretically I guess you could take it from it from the great lakes, but you'll have a lot of angry natives when they lose their lakefront infrastructure. Docks, beaches, etc. Wells to the aquifiers are how it is done. This was one of the purported reasons the keystone pipeline was blocked. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8277144 United States07/12/2012 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another example of Too Big Will Fail small farming: "Agriculture... is our wisest pursuit, because it will in the end contribute most to real wealth, good morals and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1787. |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 19604960 United States07/12/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you can flood death valley with sea water and get either evaporation, or a fresh water table for irrigation. Seems like a desert on the east side of the nist of existing baja inlet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19565086 But the panama canal is relevant to the comment about the Mississippi river. The canal and river have supported millions of transits by sea vessels. Bigger bang for the buck than for irrigation, which as mentioned by others also requires power and infrastructure even if you have the water. a lateral canal set of canals thru the midwest would possibly be useful, and allow for some fresh water transfer Would not fly if you are thinking of taking it from the Ohio/Mississippi/Missouri rivers. Lots of coal, grain, oil, etc moves through these rivers and they are constantly dredging them, even before the drought. Theoretically I guess you could take it from it from the great lakes, but you'll have a lot of angry natives when they lose their lakefront infrastructure. Docks, beaches, etc. Wells to the aquifiers are how it is done. This was one of the purported reasons the keystone pipeline was blocked. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1319973 United States07/12/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19628404 Make sense to me now, I didn't know they were going dry. Biblically we can see that God punishes "Kings" for their sins, and that people will suffer as a result of it. A good example of this is when King David did the censes on the Israelites, which resulted in the death of 70,000 people. I'm not going to say this is indeed the reason that drought and the super derecho storm happened, but I do think its very interesting to note that if we look at Obama and his administration's actions prior to these events happening, Obama came out in support of Gay Marriage around May 9th. And around May 21st The Catholic Church filed lawsuit with the support of Christian Evangelists, Mormons and jewish people - against the Obama administration for its attack on religious freedom and rights. Dolan has tried to talk with Obama for some time but there is never any response from the administration: “We have tried negotiation with the Administration and legislation with the Congress – and we’ll keep at it – but there's still no fix,” said Cardinal Dolan, who is the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. “Time is running out, and our valuable ministries and fundamental rights hang in the balance, so we have to resort to the courts now,” he explained in a May 21 statement. Just sayin... something to think about... Well... since King David of Israel lived much earlier than that of the scotts, I find this very hard to believe, especially when there is archeological evidence in support of him and other evidences of kings after him such as with King Hezekiah's Tunnel [link to en.wikipedia.org] where his tunnel still exists today and these are just a couple evidences among hundreds Biblical of proofs in Israel... Did you know that the Dead Sea scrolls can be viewed online now???: Evidence of Canaanite Jewish Rituals in Reign of King David An archaeologist finds spectacular evidence confirming the reign of King David and that non-jewish people believed in one Creator. Israel National News – May 8, 2012 A Hebrew University archaeologist has uncovered spectacular evidence confirming the reign of King David and that non-jewish people believed in one Creator. Architecture that was uncovered pre-dates the First Temple built by King Solomon. Prof. Yosef Garfinkel announced on Tuesday the discovery of objects found in the ruins called Khirbet Qeiyafa, a fortified border city in the Kingdom of Judah adjacent to the Valley of Elah, less than 20 miles southwest of Jerusalem and half five miles west of Gush Etzion. “This is the first time that archaeologists uncovered a fortified city in Judah from the time of King David,” according to Prof. Garfinkel. “Even in Jerusalem we do not have a clear fortified city from his period. Thus, various suggestions that completely deny the biblical tradition regarding King David and argue that he was a mythological figure, or just a leader of a small tribe, are now shown to be wrong. Parts of the structures, such as the doors, help explain obscure technical terms in the description of Solomon’s palace as described in the First Book of Kings 6. “For the first time in history, we have actual objects from the time of David, which can be related to monuments described in the Bible,” the archaeologist said. [link to www.israelnationalnews.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 United States07/12/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :bullshit:the wells aren't deep enough,they said that in the dust bowl when they were sitting on the underground ocean...the ocean surrounding the Continental US is filtered by the land...dig deep enough and anyone will hit water,the oceans are not going dry... Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg fresh water is hard to get how many wells have you owned? shallow wells get ground water extremely deep will be in the nat. gas/oil well range [link to www.britannica.com] we had a guy we knew in mo that had 3 sank on a beautiful piece of property for $10k and never got enough water to flush a toilet Sure they could, if they wanted to. Problem is they benefit greatly from this drought and failed corn crop. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19565086 United States07/12/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in Indiana and oddly enough the farmers irrigate their soybeans but not their corn. a soybean plant will sacrifice the seed to save the plant in a drought situation. a corn plant will give up every leaf and the majority of the stock before it lets the ear die. Its just like some people. you must attend to the selfish greedy or they will act out. you can abuse good people and they'll just bite their tongue and struggle through. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1454317 United States07/12/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in Indiana and oddly enough the farmers irrigate their soybeans but not their corn. a soybean plant will sacrifice the seed to save the plant in a drought situation. a corn plant will give up every leaf and the majority of the stock before it lets the ear die. Its just like some people. you must attend to the selfish greedy or they will act out. you can abuse good people and they'll just bite their tongue and struggle through. That is very true!...I remember as a child when my grandfather would grow 8 different crops to feed us plus sell...and he worked in the coal mine...I had to carry water many times to save the crops...it is hard back breaking work with little reward at times.. |
| THEVOICE User ID: 1267719 United States07/12/2012 06:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terrible, wish we could share some of our rain. Been raining for like 5 days here in Houston area, gonna rain another 3 I think... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526444 dont you love it M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16499015 United States07/12/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terrible, wish we could share some of our rain. Been raining for like 5 days here in Houston area, gonna rain another 3 I think... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526444 It really is a shame for all the farmers. You have to remember it's going to affect all of us with rising prices if we lose 30% of the corn crop Then take into consideration our futures contracts with other countries which buy up our corn and wheat. Obama wont have the balls to say no and will honor those contracts which will lead to MASSIVE price jumps to wheat and corn, and wheat and corn are used in a LOT of stuff people. Even Russia had to cancel a ton of their futures contracts for the same problems we have now, but Russia actually has someone with a spine. That is very true!...I remember as a child when my grandfather would grow 8 different crops to feed us plus sell...and he worked in the coal mine...I had to carry water many times to save the crops...it is hard back breaking work with little reward at times.. Quoting: Settle4It There is a larger reward than you think you just don't appreciate it as much as a kid :) Honest back breaking labor does wonders for the soul and builds you up for life. |
| Parvati User ID: 7521845  New Zealand07/12/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the Anonymous Astrophysicist who used to post on GLP: quote: "It will begin with an obvious failure of the main infrastructures such as electrical grids, crops, satellite communications and cellular phones by mid summer. By early fall it will be hotter than any normal summer. This summer will be extremely hot in both hemispheres, relatively speaking. By late fall solar radiation storms will be depleting the atmosphere and making many animals and people sick. Most trees will die in the mid summer, as their leaves yellow and fall off. By the middle of winter it will be hotter than any normal summer in most locations and we will experience solar radiation events previously unseen in human history, along with a total extinction of most species and a loss of the atmosphere to the extent that it makes surface living impossible." page 16 Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 16) :liwin: Truth [Satya] indeed conquers! Not untruth, falsehood. Untruth is all discord, out of harmony with the Real. The Real is a spontaneous unfolding of the One. - Mundaka Upanishad III.1.6 |
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| Nine's User ID: 12109328 United States07/12/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read an interesting report today about how this will affect the meat supply chain. Basically, lots of dairy cows are being brought to slaughter. Dairy will go up soon. Beef will be cheaper for the next 6 months, but the ammount of beef being put on feed is down, so expect prices to go up significantly next year. Pork prices at the store wont be affected based on the way those animals are fed out. Didnt understand all the details but it was a reasonable argument. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19565086 Many row crop farmers have insurance. For those that don't they are either self insured (the big boys, who also get millions in reccuring payments) -OR- the small guys who might get wiped out by this. But unlike meat and dairy operations, it is relatively easy for the big boys to fill in for the guys who go out of business this year. As far as the comments about the bankers, politicians, etc. 80% of the USDA budget pays for food stamps. There are songs on youtube about my EBT. 20% of the USDA budget is for production. Agree up til the statement that pork prices won't be affected. Hogs are often fed a soybean based meal. Soybeans are over 15.00 a bushel right now. Combine that with supply and demand. If beef is too high, people will turn to pork and chicken. More demand, less supply, higher prices. For the final nail in the coffin, chickens also eat a soy based meal, or pellets. Higher everything. Meat, dairy, eggs, and anything that uses them. Which is a large percentage of grocery items in some form or another. If you can get butter or meat on sale now, it's a good time to stock up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18535887 United States07/12/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terrible, wish we could share some of our rain. Been raining for like 5 days here in Houston area, gonna rain another 3 I think... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526444 dont you love it Yes, I am grateful for all the rain we are getting. Just planted a large garden about 2 weeks ago...it's gonna shoot up quick. |
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