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biggest evidence is the shill attacks.
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how long is everyone going to sit around and suck their thumbs? how much proof do you need? these lying shills actually tell people that they don't feel the Sun any hotter. tell people what they feel. seriously, these are all a bunch of psychopathic homos and child rapists too.

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money isn't called shillings for nothing.
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Its difficult to believe there are so many IDIOTS debating whether Nibiru exists or not. It has ALREADY been discovered, confirmed, AND acknowledged .. in 1983.

There are DOZENS of newspaper stories about it, and as many astronomical journals. The fact that it was hushed up within ONE WEEK of its discovery should be enough proof for anyone to get an idea of whats happening.

Again ... so many jerks debating this! Its hard to believe there are that many stupid people. Either that - or half the people on here are shills.
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FALSE.

Less than 50% of the article posted below.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]


"Many people, including Mr. Hazlewood, claim that NASA actually sighted Planet X in 1983, and it was reported in the Washington Post! The article claims that two scientists named Neugebauer and Houck used the Infrared Astronomy Satellite (called IRAS) and found a Jupiter-sized object a few billion kilometers out from the Sun.
This turns out not to be the case. Rather than rely on the accuracy of a newspaper article (and you can find out how accurate those are elsewhere on this site) I did something that never occurred to the doomsayers: I sent an email to the two astronomers asking what happened back in '83. Gerry Neugebauer replied, and told me the real poop.

IRAS was designed to look in the far-infrared, well past what our eyes see. At the time, no one was really sure what it would find. To everyone's surprise, several bright point sources were found that did not correspond to anything seen on optical images taken of the same areas. In the press conference, the two scientists said that these objects could be almost anything, from a tenth planet in our solar system to distant galaxies.

Guess which it turned out to be? Sure enough, much deeper images were taken, and some of the objects were found to be dense gas clouds in our own Galaxy, while others turned out to be very distant galaxies. In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs). These are galaxies in which there is a burst of stars being born. The cocoons of dust in which the stars are enshrouded generates copious infrared, which is what was detected by IRAS. They published these results in the prestigious Astrophysical Journal, and you can even read it yourself."
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let's use Occam's Razor shall we?

WWII chemtrails stated use, to hide Navy ships from the enemy. Shills and fearful lemmings most common reply to ancient culture's planet x: why can't we see it? [link to www.youtube.com]

another thing, the Hunger Games. Think about having every forestry service, around the world, cover cave entrances under the guise of the bat fungus. Think about deliberate oil spills to kill off the natural food supply coming from the ocean, and a little extra something in chemtrails to kill fish in rivers and lakes, and animal life. as well frequency weapons and pesticides.

And now we have the apparent, flushing the world economies down the toilet without regard thing. An apparent WWIII looking us in the eye with new laws that seize land, food, transportation, communications, etc. in wartime and will quarantine and place curfews on the populace to manage them better for the coming grand sacrifice. The olympics may be a ceremony leading up to this, or a smaller sacrifice so the elite gain favor with the beings that supposedly reside on one of the approaching moons. Even though there are already governing aliens here already, that manufacture the elite, these coming entities will do something the Mayan's and various religions call the Great Harvest.

Also, ever wondered how people like John Jacob Astor just landed in America and became the wealthiest fur trader in that day, just like all the other Robber Barons who all mysteriously gained wealth after living esoteric lives before hand. well this was the white, alien infested people from the last planet x pass slithering through the generations back to the top, while killing the other survivors like the Cherokee, aboriginal people, Mayans, etc, and stealing their occult information along the way, just like we did in the middle east the last 10 years under the guise of terrorism, and your safety (TSA make you feel safe?).

And we have abundant animal die offs, animals that navigate using magnetic fields, volcanoes erupting, sinkholes, strange weather phenomenon, solar flares, other planets doing weird things, giant UFO's around the Sun as well record number UFO sightings, and earthquakes. With some earthquakes being 3km deep where they are expanding DUMBS and hearing booms that shake towns. But we have the increased number of large quakes that have shortened the days. droughts now, wildfires, some intentional and not.

We have a year long, odd occult ritual being done via sporting events, pop concerts, and such that the lemmings applaud like a virgin on her way to be sacrificed to the dragon while on opiates. We have seed vaults, ex governors doing tv shows showing businesses booming making underground bunkers for the rich.

we have so many fireballs that the MSM and govt controlled alternative media inserting the term fireball season into the public vocabulary. and then we have the now obvious govt paid shills. they speak for themselves, but are still effective on people just now waking up or somewhere in the middle who have not run across Michael Aquino and his "Mind Wars" project ran primarily out of Austin TX.

So would TPTB knock off Moore if he's telling the truth? look at the visits on this site, now take 3k and put against 7 billion mind controlled zombies. dude, the elite put the shit in movies, music, and even the Simpsons. They don't give a shit what Moore says, most people are gone baby, dead people walking. and that includes the ones operating these honey pots to watch the ones that the mind control does not work on as well.

So Occam's Razor, simple answer is the best, the elite worship Crowley's LAM and show you they make sacrifices to these gods to gain favors, hence the movie, "Cabin in the woods," or Disney's "John Carter," and others illustrating that, so the elite are trying to protect themselves as most of them are inhabited by these archonic beings anyway. look up the term walk-in, means alien possession like scientology, and most, if not all transhuman/ posthuman scientists proclaim themselves to be walk-in's. all tied into the UN's Arcane school, Lucis Trust, and Share International too. they are moving technology underground as it is created there anyway, for the next matrix cycle to start, a new world order.

Also, the pass of this Nibiru, this time will not cause the damage it has done before, as Moore states, a 10-15% pole shift, which we've seen the start of with true north moving recently. they know the coordinates of this thing and know what damage will be done (not as much as they would like, and not as much as they put out via youtube), so that is why they've created a police state to protect their doors to the underground and create Hunger Games to start the new world.

I don't know, do you think Nibiru is real? or do you believe shills telling you everything is normal, happens every summer, and you do not feel the Sun being any hotter? the clock is ticking and apparently about to hit midnight, so...figure it out.
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I don't know, do you think Nibiru is real? or do you believe shills telling you everything is normal, happens every summer, and you do not feel the Sun being any hotter? the clock is ticking and apparently about to hit midnight, so...figure it out.

These aren't the droids you're looking for...

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John Mowhore's thread still going at 19 page's now!
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And if Moore is even partially correct, this thread will continue and deserves to be a top thread bumped ad-naseum if the expected or associated earth changes continue to escalate as they ARE.

In fact I expect this thread and the one I've posted
Thread: POLE SHIFT ABOUT TO OCCUR ON 188 CYCLE!?! HMO/NIBIRU/BROWN DWARF RETURNS & CONFIRMED BY US MILITARY?! WOW

are being underestimated due to the ignorance and ego's who can't handle the possibility of such events occurring in their lifetime, and will deny, attack and hate those for either considering it at all, or forcing people to!

anyone who says this scenario is impossible and ridicules or attempts to censor discussion of it and those attempting to stimulate intelligent discourse on it, are the real cancer and danger to society considering the SERIOUS NATURE and IMPLICATIONS of this issue.

If this event turns out to to be false, GREAT! BFD. But if there is something to it since I believe we're about to start seeing these anomalies increase on levels never before seen since the last POLE SHIFT, many here will THANK those who stood up to the NET NAZI's that called them crazy considering the nature of this THREAT.
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Its difficult to believe there are so many IDIOTS debating whether Nibiru exists or not. It has ALREADY been discovered, confirmed, AND acknowledged .. in 1983.

There are DOZENS of newspaper stories about it, and as many astronomical journals. The fact that it was hushed up within ONE WEEK of its discovery should be enough proof for anyone to get an idea of whats happening.

Again ... so many jerks debating this! Its hard to believe there are that many stupid people. Either that - or half the people on here are shills.
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I just listen to the first 2 mins and shut er off. This guy is a quack.
Seems just about any old riffraff can record a show post it YouTube and spew some doom
I could do it!
The real question would be, how to best fully profit from all the doom junkies? I would need to take your money to make worth my while.
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money isn't called shillings for nothing.
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Oh that's the best yet!
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I just listen to the first 2 mins and shut er off. This guy is a quack.
Seems just about any old riffraff can record a show post it YouTube and spew some doom
I could do it!
The real question would be, how to best fully profit from all the doom junkies? I would need to take your money to make worth my while.
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lala

and you present soooooooooooooooooo much evidence to prove he's a quack or that the warning and sources are wrong.

you like most can continue burying your heads in the sand to information that is uncomfortable for your ego to be confronted with, but the fact is, ignorance of it, won't protect you from it. Which seems to be the choice of most humans who CONFORM and blindly accept their reality and concepts they've collectively allowed to continue for millennia which has actually been a major factor thats led to our civilization being on the virtual eve of its collapse.

I suppose you're also one of those that accepted the 9/11 fairy tale and didn't bother to lift a finger or brain wave to question your leaders and seek the truth about that LIE which has created a scenario that will most likely involve nuke terrorism if what John Moore has warned about doesn't occur first!
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Dr. Robert S. Harrington was an astronomer with the United States
Naval Observatory. He had multiple theories on Planet X over the years
including The Location of Planet X 1988 and The Search for Planet X 1991.
He based his theories on the movements of the outer planets and a
possible influence from an unknown body in the solar system.

These published and publicly available papers by the Naval Observatory
astronomer are even referred to by some Planet X proponents as "NASA
internal documents"!

Oddly, it is his death that the Planet X crowd refer to more often than his
theories. This seems to stem from a white paper written by Neil Freer
titled The Alien Question: An Expanded Perspective.

In this white paper Freer wrote:

"It is interesting that Harrington dispatched an appropriate telescope to
Black Birch, New Zealand to get a visual confirmation, based on the data
leading to the expectation that it would be below the ecliptic in the southern
skies at this point in its orbit. On Harrington’s early death the scope was
immediately called back --- as one observer noted, “almost before he was
cold”. "
[link to planet-x.150m.com]
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Since Harrington never proposed a Planet X with an orbit that would take it into the inner solar system that's just a red herring.
His Planet X would not have been Nibiru.
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I might as well post it here too. Why are Moore & McCanney contradicting themselves? Moore is a big McCanney fan.



James McCanney calling Machholz a Planet X Object: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

Nibiru Finds are Dis-Info, James McCanney July 12th: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
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I think you would be hard-pressed to argue that all of the events that we are witnessing now falls into a pattern of "business as usual": - the patent uptick in 6+ quakes and volcanic activity over the past 18 - 24 months,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19661562

I have yet to see a single analysis that shows a statistically significant deviation from historical fluctuations. Furthermore, I don't have to be a geologist to know that Nibiru is false; handwaving to unrelated geological phenomenon does not cut it.

the mysterious metallic noises, ominous hums and odd sounds that have been echoing around the planet for the past year,
 Quoting: AC

I have yet to hear anything and I really don't see what this has to do with "nibiru." Grasping at straws would be an understatement here.

And so my question to you is this: can you honestly tell us that the occurrence of all of these unusual events at approximately the same time is merely coincidental?
 Quoting: AC

What I can tell you is that it's not being caused by some kind of massive celestial body approaching earth. Frankly none of it is even compelling to me as being unusual and/or real. Many of them I automatically disregard unless and until someone shows that they're statistically significant. Yet no one who thinks its real wants to do that, it might invalidate their beliefs and then where would they be?
And if a brown dwarf or other celestial intruder is not causing these events, then what is?
 Quoting: AC

Confirmation bias. People looking for strange things to happen, expecting it because of the year.
 Quoting: Astromut


Thank you for addressing these questions. Because this now puts your posts into a clearer perspective. The fact that you are actually taking the position that the collective planetary and solar events that we are witnessing are not in any way unusual speaks volumes about you, my friend. I have read your posts for years, admiring your intelligence and logical analysis, but still left wondering if there was something that you were not telling us. I have been wondering if you had possibly expressed an opinion in threads that I had failed to read, an opinion that would shed light on what you believe is actually occurring cosmically and why. And now I know that you are either (a) in complete denial of the changes in our planetary environment - changes that even independent scientific organizations now openly acknowledge are occurring or (b) you are working hard to serve some unspoken agenda.

You are obviously highly intelligent, articulate and a master of language.

But with your response above, you, sir, have completely lost credibility in my eyes.

Thank you for clearing this up. I will now read the posts you critique with greater interest, as it seems very clear to me that you are working hard to convince others that the denial you are in is actually truth. If you had acknowledged some anomalies but not others, my perspective on your credibility may have changed. But the extreme depth of your denial gives me considerable concern about what lies ahead for all of us.
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Shill Gambit.

As good as a confession that you do not have a rational rebuttal.
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i (hokie999pokie) can not believe we (as brothers and sisters of the world) are still trying to come to terms with this star, on its southern eliptical orbit,

we have monkeys, seeing no evil
hearing no evil
but talking evil.

there is only one way through this as we all know.

which is to just, 1, LET IT BE.
2, LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER,

until we see this, our friends above will not show themselves,


i love you all, were all made the same, doesnt matter the color, lanuage, whatever,

the point is, whoever the creator is, he, or she is very cleaver, because until we can all get on , we will never be allowed anywhere above, where the fun really starts,

so yes there IS an inbound heavenly body ( heaven only means sky remember ) call it what you may.

anyway, it will scare the life out of the negitive people of the world, and stop their hearts, through anxiety, it is written,( in other words when everyone sees this giant star flyby, the fear of death will enter the hearts, of sinful people, anyones hearts who are not strong with enough love,) will stop.

but hey..... look on the bright side, it will leave all the loving people who just want a peaceful existance, with the free energy,

so to all the negitive minded people, i say, be nice, start thinking positive, or you will not make it this time,

I LOVE YOU ALL.

TAKE CARE , AND... spread a little happiness as you walk by,

all you need is love, start using it on people you don't know. it might make you feel good,

HOKIE999POKIE.

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I have two very straightforward questions for those on this thread who have been actively and passionately engaged in debunking the possibility that a "Planet X"-type object exists in our outer solar system which may be causing the electro-magnetic disturbances with the sun (and the accompanying effects on earth) that we have been witnessing in recent years.

First, let's be honest about the controllers who are actually controlling this planet: I think most intelligent people can now agree that these controllers are not acting in the best interests of the planetary populace. Their flagrant disregard for the global environment, their rapidly-increasing efforts to restrict the freedoms of the masses in the name of an imaginary threat, and their open and notorious lies and fraud propagated in supporting the collapsing global economy all clearly speak to this.

So, IF you were one of the "controllers" working in these governments, and IF a Planet X-type object were actually discovered by those governments, (a) would you actually inform the planetary populace? and (b) if you chose to suppress that information, what tactics would you employ to accomplish this?

I submit to you that if your answer to (a) is no, then I think you will find that your answer to (b) would, coincidentally, include lot like the vigorous debunking efforts that we have been seeing on this forum.

But I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, so I will ask the debunkers: IF you were a government agency trying to deceive the planetary populace, what types of efforts would you employ?

I wonder if any will have the courage to step up and answer this question?
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I might as well post it here too. Why are Moore & McCanney contradicting themselves? Moore is a big McCanney fan.



James McCanney calling Machholz a Planet X Object: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

Nibiru Finds are Dis-Info, James McCanney July 12th: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984


This is an interesting interview. While it doesn't specifically speak to Moore's recent "warning", it does make a very important point: the fact that so many Nibiru "finds" are appearing now is most likely reflective of the fact that governments know that something is out there and approaching, and that it is only a matter of time before the masses wake up to this fact. Ergo, the best way to prevent such an awakening is to constantly flood the media - and the internet, in particular - with false sightings, false warning, false data, etc - in a boy-who-cried-wolf fashion that de-sensitizes the populace to the existence of this threat. This is Disinfo 101, people. Elenin was the classic test-run for this strategy. It failed to materialize into anything ssignificant, and so any discussion of a brown dwarf or Planet X-type object has been viciously dismissed ever since.

How many times have we seen a thread about this subject posted on this forum, and one of the first comments to follow looks something like this: "Nibiru AGAIN? Give it a rest, guys. How many times do we have to go over this??"

It amazes me that most people can actually agree that their governments lie to them about absolutely everything in their lives - their economy, their money, what's in the food they eat, the drugs/medication/vaccines they receive, the way their leaders are "elected" - but they actually believe their governments (and the data produced by those governments) when they say that a cosmic threat does not exist?
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I have two very straightforward questions for those on this thread who have been actively and passionately engaged in debunking the possibility that a "Planet X"-type object exists in our outer solar system which may be causing the electro-magnetic disturbances with the sun (and the accompanying effects on earth) that we have been witnessing in recent years.

First, let's be honest about the controllers who are actually controlling this planet: I think most intelligent people can now agree that these controllers are not acting in the best interests of the planetary populace. Their flagrant disregard for the global environment, their rapidly-increasing efforts to restrict the freedoms of the masses in the name of an imaginary threat, and their open and notorious lies and fraud propagated in supporting the collapsing global economy all clearly speak to this.

So, IF you were one of the "controllers" working in these governments, and IF a Planet X-type object were actually discovered by those governments, (a) would you actually inform the planetary populace? and (b) if you chose to suppress that information, what tactics would you employ to accomplish this?

I submit to you that if your answer to (a) is no, then I think you will find that your answer to (b) would, coincidentally, include lot like the vigorous debunking efforts that we have been seeing on this forum.

But I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, so I will ask the debunkers: IF you were a government agency trying to deceive the planetary populace, what types of efforts would you employ?

I wonder if any will have the courage to step up and answer this question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19792914



(hokie999pokie) i agree, totaly,

and further more, to the officials who have been promised a so called safe bunker room, they will be used, and their family for food eventually, when the food runs out, and slaves, sex, and otherwise, (fresh meat) welcome to the underground meat storage facility goverment shills, welcome to hell, on earth, it will be your worst nightmare, so change your ways quickly my friends,

tell the truth always,
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google: Japanese Astronomer Murdered! Was He Involved With 'Planet X' Study? (Updated)

4 some reason a simple blog explaining yet another astronomer was murdered due to planet x information is an instant ban here on this site. if anything, can people see the truth now with the govt alternative media and shills? we need to become awake quicker if this is happening as your life, friends, and family seems to depend on it.
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I might as well post it here too. Why are Moore & McCanney contradicting themselves? Moore is a big McCanney fan.



James McCanney calling Machholz a Planet X Object: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

Nibiru Finds are Dis-Info, James McCanney July 12th: [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984


You F%#@#!G shills, shouldn't you and halcyon be servicing your astro- master?sideways
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I think you would be hard-pressed to argue that all of the events that we are witnessing now falls into a pattern of "business as usual": - the patent uptick in 6+ quakes and volcanic activity over the past 18 - 24 months,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19661562

I have yet to see a single analysis that shows a statistically significant deviation from historical fluctuations. Furthermore, I don't have to be a geologist to know that Nibiru is false; handwaving to unrelated geological phenomenon does not cut it.

the mysterious metallic noises, ominous hums and odd sounds that have been echoing around the planet for the past year,
 Quoting: AC

I have yet to hear anything and I really don't see what this has to do with "nibiru." Grasping at straws would be an understatement here.

And so my question to you is this: can you honestly tell us that the occurrence of all of these unusual events at approximately the same time is merely coincidental?
 Quoting: AC

What I can tell you is that it's not being caused by some kind of massive celestial body approaching earth. Frankly none of it is even compelling to me as being unusual and/or real. Many of them I automatically disregard unless and until someone shows that they're statistically significant. Yet no one who thinks its real wants to do that, it might invalidate their beliefs and then where would they be?
And if a brown dwarf or other celestial intruder is not causing these events, then what is?
 Quoting: AC

Confirmation bias. People looking for strange things to happen, expecting it because of the year.
 Quoting: Astromut


Thank you for addressing these questions. Because this now puts your posts into a clearer perspective. The fact that you are actually taking the position that the collective planetary and solar events that we are witnessing are not in any way unusual speaks volumes about you, my friend. I have read your posts for years, admiring your intelligence and logical analysis, but still left wondering if there was something that you were not telling us. I have been wondering if you had possibly expressed an opinion in threads that I had failed to read, an opinion that would shed light on what you believe is actually occurring cosmically and why. And now I know that you are either (a) in complete denial of the changes in our planetary environment - changes that even independent scientific organizations now openly acknowledge are occurring or (b) you are working hard to serve some unspoken agenda.

You are obviously highly intelligent, articulate and a master of language.

But with your response above, you, sir, have completely lost credibility in my eyes.

Thank you for clearing this up. I will now read the posts you critique with greater interest, as it seems very clear to me that you are working hard to convince others that the denial you are in is actually truth. If you had acknowledged some anomalies but not others, my perspective on your credibility may have changed. But the extreme depth of your denial gives me considerable concern about what lies ahead for all of us.
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That is astro's strategy, mix in good facts from a person with a great grasp on astronomy and people will believe(usually) without questioning, but that leaves the door open to sham us while putting out real facts too, and NOBODY can overlook what has been an upheaval over the last three years, of everything, weather, volcanism, seismicity, solar, animal and fish deaths in MASS, recent and getting worse electrocution of people, animals, building being blown apart. Yeah, a lot of us think astro is not telling all, and using his knowledge to misdirect us. TELL ME AGAIN EVERYTHING IS NORMAL AROUND US!! and another good tidbit is how NONE of these shills will adress the fact that Nibiru is
being watched by INFRARED TELESCOPES. PERIOD. none of the fools on this site have that tech, TOO EXPENSIVE and exclusive to government operatives only.
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I think you would be hard-pressed to argue that all of the events that we are witnessing now falls into a pattern of "business as usual": - the patent uptick in 6+ quakes and volcanic activity over the past 18 - 24 months,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19661562

I have yet to see a single analysis that shows a statistically significant deviation from historical fluctuations. Furthermore, I don't have to be a geologist to know that Nibiru is false; handwaving to unrelated geological phenomenon does not cut it.

the mysterious metallic noises, ominous hums and odd sounds that have been echoing around the planet for the past year,
 Quoting: AC

I have yet to hear anything and I really don't see what this has to do with "nibiru." Grasping at straws would be an understatement here.

And so my question to you is this: can you honestly tell us that the occurrence of all of these unusual events at approximately the same time is merely coincidental?
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What I can tell you is that it's not being caused by some kind of massive celestial body approaching earth. Frankly none of it is even compelling to me as being unusual and/or real. Many of them I automatically disregard unless and until someone shows that they're statistically significant. Yet no one who thinks its real wants to do that, it might invalidate their beliefs and then where would they be?
And if a brown dwarf or other celestial intruder is not causing these events, then what is?
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Confirmation bias. People looking for strange things to happen, expecting it because of the year.
 Quoting: Astromut


Thank you for addressing these questions. Because this now puts your posts into a clearer perspective. The fact that you are actually taking the position that the collective planetary and solar events that we are witnessing are not in any way unusual speaks volumes about you, my friend. I have read your posts for years, admiring your intelligence and logical analysis, but still left wondering if there was something that you were not telling us. I have been wondering if you had possibly expressed an opinion in threads that I had failed to read, an opinion that would shed light on what you believe is actually occurring cosmically and why. And now I know that you are either (a) in complete denial of the changes in our planetary environment - changes that even independent scientific organizations now openly acknowledge are occurring or (b) you are working hard to serve some unspoken agenda.

You are obviously highly intelligent, articulate and a master of language.

But with your response above, you, sir, have completely lost credibility in my eyes.

Thank you for clearing this up. I will now read the posts you critique with greater interest, as it seems very clear to me that you are working hard to convince others that the denial you are in is actually truth. If you had acknowledged some anomalies but not others, my perspective on your credibility may have changed. But the extreme depth of your denial gives me considerable concern about what lies ahead for all of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19792914


That is astro's strategy, mix in good facts from a person with a great grasp on astronomy and people will believe(usually) without questioning, but that leaves the door open to sham us while putting out real facts too, and NOBODY can overlook what has been an upheaval over the last three years, of everything, weather, volcanism, seismicity, solar, animal and fish deaths in MASS, recent and getting worse electrocution of people, animals, building being blown apart. Yeah, a lot of us think astro is not telling all, and using his knowledge to misdirect us. TELL ME AGAIN EVERYTHING IS NORMAL AROUND US!! and another good tidbit is how NONE of these shills will adress the fact that Nibiru is
being watched by INFRARED TELESCOPES. PERIOD. none of the fools on this site have that tech, TOO EXPENSIVE and exclusive to government operatives only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067150


you're right. they are effective at hitting people that only have a certain amount of information to work with. that's how alternative media works: truths mixed with lies. they tell obvious truths to gain credibility and lead the group elsewhere, usually into denial.

here:

Would Planet X or Nemesis be visible to astronomers if it were approaching the inner Solar system in its long-period orbit around the Sun? There is a fair chance that not many people would notice it at first. The dust cloud should be fairly dense closer to the body, but farther away from the body, it gradually thins out so that light from stars behind it would begin to pass through. However, the change in light intensity of a star being slowly obscured by this body would be so gradual that it could go undetected for a long period, because we only monitor about 3% of the sky at any one time.

Hidden like this, the body can sneak up fairly close to Earth and still go undetected by mainstream astronomy, the great masses of amateurs with backyard telescopes. As the body is relatively cool and dark, what little visible light it emits does not shine through its own dust cloud; or at least, it does not shine through yet. Its heat does however pass through this dust cloud; therefore, an infrared telescope should detect it much more easily.

This constitutes a perfectly logical reason for a telescope with adaptive optics to be put on the South Pole in a hurry.

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Re: OMG!! John Moore is right! Nibiru is here!!!
Like the Catholic church's new Lucifer Telescope in Arizona, govts have been putting a lot of eyes in the sky to see something in infrared.

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