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Obama Executive order ends Welfare Reform as we know it!

 
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I guess giving States more freedom to Govern is a one way street with you guys. The State Governors asked for the option to be more flexible with TANF. Most of those asking were Republican Governors. Even when Obama does something Republicans want they still cry about it.
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Why are they using Social Security Money to fund welfare and child support programs and enforcements?
Social Security taxes are for retirements, disabilty,and death benefits right ?
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Sounds like it's an admission that there aren't any jobs available so it's no use getting the peeps "job ready" spending money on training etc...

I could be wrong ....
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We are paying Social Security too funds all these programs
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I see you stupid fucks are still incapable of any rational thinking. This place is ate up with full blown retards.
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History

Main article: History of Social Security in the United States
A limited form of the Social Security program began, during President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first term, as a measure to implement "social insurance" during the Great Depression of the 1930s, when poverty rates among senior citizens exceeded 50 percent.[8] The Act was an attempt to limit what were seen as dangers in the modern American life, including old age, poverty, unemployment, and the burdens of widows and fatherless children.
Opponents also decried the proposal as socialism. In a Senate Finance Committee hearing, one Senator asked Secretary of Labor Frances Perkins, "Isn't this socialism?" She said that it was not, but he continued, "Isn't this a teeny-weeny bit of socialism?"[9]
Most women and minorities were excluded from the benefits of unemployment insurance and old age pensions. Employment definitions reflected typical white male categories and patterns.[10]
The provisions of Social Security have been changing since the 1930s, shifting in response to economic worries as well as concerns over changing gender roles and the position of minorities. Officials have responded more to the concerns of women than those of minority groups.[11] Social Security gradually moved toward universal coverage. By 1950, debates moved away from which occupational groups should be included to how to provide more adequate coverage.[12] Changes in Social Security have reflected a balance between promoting equality and efforts to provide adequate protection.[13]
[edit]Major Programs

The larger and better known programs under the Social Security Act and amendments are:
Federal Old-Age (Retirement), Survivors, and Disability Insurance
Unemployment benefits
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Health Insurance for Aged and Disabled (Medicare)
Grants to States for Medical Assistance Programs (Medicaid)
State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
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I see you stupid fucks are still incapable of any rational thinking. This place is ate up with full blown retards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19648958

What you fail to see here is criminal activties and lies to the American People.
They are using a fund that was designed for retirement, disabilties and death benefits, but as you can clearly see they had stolen from it, and replace it with IOUs...
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He was and was put in place illegally against the will of the American public through deceit and lies by the evil Satanic cabal which has this world in its grasp.

The ONLY way to escape the imminent destruction of your spirit is through Jesus Christ. He... is the ONLY way friends! DO NOT CHOOSE TO IGNORE THIS AND BE PLACED IN THE FINAL 7 YEAR PERIOD / POST RAPTURE / FOR YOUR DESTINY AT THAT POINT WILL BE GRIM. The Only way after the removal of the church to be provided a sense of salvation will be from the sacrifice of your own life. This will be through your confession of your knowledge, understanding and belief in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, as well as refusing the mark which is present and being instituted now.

Pray for me as well. There are temptations everywhere and we all need strength in the incredibly dark days!
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There won't be any rapture. No such thing mentioned in the bible.
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yep, you fight for freedom or die a slave
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I see you stupid fucks are still incapable of any rational thinking. This place is ate up with full blown retards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19648958

What you fail to see here is criminal activties and lies to the American People.
They are using a fund that was designed for retirement, disabilties and death benefits, but as you can clearly see they had stolen from it, and replace it with IOUs...
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You fail to see this is a thread about welfare reform. And just to let you know...they have been robbing the Social Security fund for decades now.
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07/14/2012 12:20 AM
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I know. I swear he was sent here to destroy us! Seems that way anyways.
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I think you have got it and putting back the worst thing that happened to black people from the time they started welfare.
I call it break up the family for the governments welfare! It is communist, it was in their plan!
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I see you stupid fucks are still incapable of any rational thinking. This place is ate up with full blown retards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19648958

What you fail to see here is criminal activties and lies to the American People.
They are using a fund that was designed for retirement, disabilties and death benefits, but as you can clearly see they had stolen from it, and replace it with IOUs...
end of reports
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19523259


You fail to see this is a thread about welfare reform. And just to let you know...they have been robbing the Social Security fund for decades now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19648958

I know now, also...last post...
May 5, 2012
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed a bill that will cut off public funding for organizations that perform "nonfederally qualified abortions," striking a blow to Planned Parenthood in the state.

The new law, signed Friday, excludes only those abortions that are "necessary to save the life of the mother or if the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or incest." Those circumstances are covered by Title 19 of the Social Security Act.

I am totaly against rape or incest, but...They can tell her to say you were rape . For those who were not, and Social Security pays for it. Don't think this had not happaned.
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I know. I swear he was sent here to destroy us! Seems that way anyways.
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I think you have got it and putting back the worst thing that happened to black people from the time they started welfare.
I call it break up the family for the governments welfare! It is communist, it was in their plan!
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Slavery never ended. Explain why Martin Luther King Jr was killed, because he knew and would of tryed to stop it.
He was a REAL MAN of GOD!!! Not Jesse
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07/14/2012 12:32 AM
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As for the NO RAPTURE people... please do some research before spouting off your lack of information, education or lack of the ability to find out for yourself.

I mean really??? If you are too lazy to find it for yourself in the Bible, there are tons of sources on the internet that will lay it out for you in a simple to understand way. Pretrib rapture WILL occur and will be explained away in various ways. Don't be fooled... if the explanations for the missing people begin... you have probably been left to endure the short time that you have left.

At that time, your choices are extremely limited.
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Well they just mean there will be no rapture for them.
They will have 7 years under Obama and other radicals
to come to true repentance. Meanwhile those of us
watching for his appearing will not be disappointed.

1 THESSALONIANS 4:15-17.......


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We are paying Social Security too funds all these programs
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Social Security is BROKE! Besides that obvious fact, Social Security was not meant to fund welfare for lazy ass people, who are capable of working but not willing to get a job a earn a living.

"The OASI and DI programs, commonly referred to as Social Security, provide a comprehensive package of protection against the loss of earnings due to retirement, disability and death."

[link to www.socialsecurity.gov (secure)]

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man i was hoping to get a city job or a job with calworks but without the tax incentives to hire someone like me on foodstamps well I guess i'll just go to a temp agency for work instead, thats a big no -no on calwork. To bad in the 8 mos we have gotten foodstamps, my exhubby has not been compelled to pay any of the 17 yrs of back child support he owes. oh correction we arent divorced just abandoned. I guess i'll ask my oncologist to hire me. I can't stand being a burden on society.
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Obama visited my hometown of Roanoke, Virginia (SW Virginia) yesterday evening (Fri). Several of us enjoyed protesting from 6 to 9 pm. He's a wealth redistributing socialist. We let his motorcade know it as it drove to and from his campaign speech in downtown Roanoke. Spent the time in between letting his sheeple followers who were filing in to see him know as well. You should have seen the sheeple's reaction as they stood in line waiting to get into the restricted zone to see him! Priceless. Time well spent!

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Obama visited my hometown of Roanoke, Virginia (SW Virginia) yesterday evening (Fri). Several of us enjoyed protesting from 6 to 9 pm. He's a wealth redistributing socialist. We let his motorcade know it as it drove to and from his campaign speech in downtown Roanoke. Spent the time in between letting his sheeple followers who were filing in to see him know as well. You should have seen the sheeple's reaction as they stood in line waiting to get into the restricted zone to see him! Priceless. Time well spent!
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I used to live in Roanoke, I see he had a big crowd there, lots of losers still in that town love him.
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Obama visited my hometown of Roanoke, Virginia (SW Virginia) yesterday evening (Fri). Several of us enjoyed protesting from 6 to 9 pm. He's a wealth redistributing socialist. We let his motorcade know it as it drove to and from his campaign speech in downtown Roanoke. Spent the time in between letting his sheeple followers who were filing in to see him know as well. You should have seen the sheeple's reaction as they stood in line waiting to get into the restricted zone to see him! Priceless. Time well spent!
 Quoting: FLUFFY PUPPY


I used to live in Roanoke, I see he had a big crowd there, lots of losers still in that town love him.
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Yep. They (probably 4000 of them) came out of the woodwork and converged at Fire House #1 on Church Ave to hear the saviour. They didn't have smooth sailing because they had to get through us to get to him. All kinds of police hovering around trying to separate us and them. About as confrontational as you can get without physical harm occurring. Shouting at each other across Franklin Road....a sight to see.

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Baby Boomers are so full of shit. They stole the money out of the system, made America insolvent and then whine about poor people.

STFU and tell your Republicans to stop obstructing all the Jobs bills in committee.

I wonder how many complainers have called their Republican Congressman and told them to get to work on jobs.

Sooo full of shit.
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Might that just be because the financial crash is coming and there already aren't nearly enough jobs to go around NOW? If you lose your job and your job benefits, are you going to want to have to leave your wife and children so that they, at least, will be able to qualify for Aid for Dependent Children? What if you are single with no dependents? Your unemployment benefits have run out and you still can't find a job. You'd rather be homeless and starve? What?
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Baby Boomers are so full of shit. They stole the money out of the system, made America insolvent and then whine about poor people.

STFU and tell your Republicans to stop obstructing all the Jobs bills in committee.

I wonder how many complainers have called their Republican Congressman and told them to get to work on jobs.

Sooo full of shit.
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It isn't the governments job to create jobs. It is there job to get the funk out of the way with regulations so the private sector can create jobs. With Obamacare kicking in and all of the burdensome regulations that slap on business, people are worried about hiring people because they don't have any clue what your master is going to throw at them next. It is sickening how you all praise govt. so much when all that they touch goes to Sh#t!
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Baby Boomers are so full of shit. They stole the money out of the system, made America insolvent and then whine about poor people.

STFU and tell your Republicans to stop obstructing all the Jobs bills in committee.

I wonder how many complainers have called their Republican Congressman and told them to get to work on jobs.

Sooo full of shit.
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Might that just be because the financial crash is coming and there already aren't nearly enough jobs to go around NOW? If you lose your job and your job benefits, are you going to want to have to leave your wife and children so that they, at least, will be able to qualify for Aid for Dependent Children? What if you are single with no dependents? Your unemployment benefits have run out and you still can't find a job. You'd rather be homeless and starve? What?
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You are correct but most of these dumbasses just don't get it.
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Baby Boomers are so full of shit. They stole the money out of the system, made America insolvent and then whine about poor people.

STFU and tell your Republicans to stop obstructing all the Jobs bills in committee.

I wonder how many complainers have called their Republican Congressman and told them to get to work on jobs.

Sooo full of shit.
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All these "jobs bills" are totally bogus and consist entirely of taxpayer funded programs only. They are not real jobs but fabrications by this administration for the benefit of supportors and donors.

Hasn't Obama bought enough votes with our tax money already?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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This financial crisis has been a very long time coming, back at least to 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve banking system.

None of us has any control over it and it's global. Just because one was born at a certain time along the irreversible course of action does not mean they are any more repsonsible for it than another born at a different time.

It's not one generation against another but The Powers That Be against those of us with no power at all. We are all pawns in the same game.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Might that just be because the financial crash is coming and there already aren't nearly enough jobs to go around NOW? If you lose your job and your job benefits, are you going to want to have to leave your wife and children so that they, at least, will be able to qualify for Aid for Dependent Children? What if you are single with no dependents? Your unemployment benefits have run out and you still can't find a job. You'd rather be homeless and starve? What?
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You are correct but most of these dumbasses just don't get it.
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What he did was just kill the part of welfare reform that requires people to be working, be in training to prepare for a job, or to be actively looking for work. Now, they don't have to even search for work. They can just sit home a collect a check for doing nothing.

What part of that do you not understand?

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We are paying Social Security too funds all these programs
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retarded...no...SSI is a totally differnent monster....god damn it...I wish someone intelligent would shock treat the stupidity in these threads...the morons will not stop biting the boat dock.

WELFARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOCIAL SECURITY...wake up and stfu...you sound like a retarded rabbit...mewing and spewing shit that makes absolutely no sense to anyone but yourself...better yet...just pull the gun out, place it in your mouth, point toward the ceiling and fire...you are not worthy to take up my air any longer. you need to go somewhere else that requires less oxygen and more flame.

I hate this administration...but the stupidity and the lies and the misinformation must stop or you are doing no one good and making yourself look like a fucking idiot...just stfu until you "know" something...

For most of you...that is perpetual silence cause you are too fucking stupid to ever know any-fucking-thing.

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I can hardly wait until these smug well-to-do A-HOLES that never had a difficult time in their lives lose it all. THEN and only THEN will they know how hard it can be even when you try your best. Believe me, when they lose everything I will not shed one single tear for them.
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You DO realize that these "smug well-to-do A-HOLES that never had a difficult time in their lives" all support and vote DEMOCRAT, right??
It's the ones who actually had to WORK for it that vote Republican.
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The people answering against welfare on this thread are predominantly well-to-do REPUBLICAN dumbass

iamwith
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I disagree. I am not a Repub or a democrat. I am not 'well to do". I am self employed and I make a decent living for hard work and effort...but it is not what I consider "well to do".

I am a Libertarian. I am all about equal opportunity for everyone to do their best. I am also all about freedom. I choose to be self employed because I can run to the store when I need to, do an errand or two or even take a light day. I work by schedules and deadlines. Today I might work till midnight, tomorrow I might call it a day at noon...but the choice is mine and as long as I meet my deadlines with a quality product, my clients don't give a shit when I actually do the work.

The welfare system deadens the brain. But we are between Ascella and Charybdis right now. We "should" have wide open doors of commerce to allow people to use their brains to make their way. I used this example before but...If someone wants to buy a cheap grill, attach it to a cart and sell hot dogs along the side of the road for a buck 50 each...I'm good with that...but no...we have tons of regulations, fees and licenses that prevent a decent person from doing that.

THIS is the problem. For God's sake...just let people do for themselves and most people will. However, if it is complicated or costly and seems impossible, then most people will gove up or not even try...and that is a travesty to ingenuity and cleverness.
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Nice post. The parasites don't want independent people. That's why there are so many taxes and regulations crushing any semblance of independence.

They want wage slaves.

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Now that millions of women collecting welfare are not counted as unemployed,looking for work, the new dept of labor figures will reflect that.
Just before the elections
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TPTB have declared current high unemployment to be "structural" meaning millions will not be employed permanently from here on out into the future. Fewer adults are working now than anytime since 1980 or something like that. So probably they are busy reinventing labor and work in general. They would need to broaden the definition of what qualifies as "work". It will probably become more and more like farmville or something that is "synthetic" and only involves "social capital". just my opinion.
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