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ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.

 
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I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
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The only proof a person can have for themselves, begins with an inner-knowing that there must be some kind of Creator....and a sense of accountability to trying to understand that Creator, to live as truly righteously as possible for the sake of pleasing that Creator. To develop a hunger and thirst to know their Creator....to develop an inner honesty that tears down false perceptions about one's self and others......

Then, when one has searched with everything they have, and they can do nothing more to search.....that person is visited. That is to say, that the person is led from event to event.....from source to source..until they come to the burning bush.

When one receives this Visitation, and the Person of that Visitation calls Himself Jesus, and shows the Seeker a glimpse of reality and the scriptures....and draws the Seeker into a two-way communication....well - there is that proof.

It's a proof that is impossible for anyone else to appreciate because of it's very intimate nature. Only someone else who has been along the same Path, led by the same Voice will ever understand what such a Seeker is trying to talk about.

The rest of the world is looking for outward signs, outward evidences, but the Christ is ONLY found within the heart of the Seeker...and only after the Seeker has put the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness above all else in his/her life.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


well you have me with the first two paragraphs. i agree whole heartedly on those points.

you lost me on where the visitor calls himself "jesus" and the scriptures.
 Quoting: Anubis


How so?
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


i wholly acknowledge the grand design of the universe. i can see 'god' in everything. in animals, in plants, in nature, in the human 'spirit'.

but ive been burned in the past with organized religion. how am i supposed to adhere to any particular interpretation of the grand designer and his or it's name, let alone his or it's doctrine?
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Well. You did also ask for the "validity" of the bible. You could also say that millions of people live better lives because of it.

The bottom line with the New Testament is that it has already been done for us. There's nothing else to do. Jesus is our Savior.

I would ask you to show me the validity of each of those books and why that is the way? Has their messiah come? Lets not forget that Jesus is a historical figure and not an elephant god (no offense)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040


no offense taken that is a valid retort. i cannot demonstrate the validity of those other books. what i am interested in is the validity of the bible and that Jesus is my Savior and only true way to salvation. But i want to understand and accept that tenet with out bible quotes.

I'm thinking this could be a fun exercise and who knows in the end you might make a convert out of me.
 Quoting: Anubis


Sir, NOT one Christian can prove nothing to you when it comes to salvation and they do not have the power to convert anyone.

I said this to you on another thread.
I was like you about 20 years ago, but it took an act of God to reveal His Glory and His Son Jesus as we say in English.

Peace
 Quoting: Little Star


Yes i recall that. But as a practicing Christian, is it not one of your duties to witness? I am giving you the opportunity to do this.
 Quoting: Anubis


Watch the video first.
It will awaken you a bit.
Plus no reading need to be done.
That pastor that is on the video speaks and writes 28 languages.
He validates everything that is in the bible.
Goes all over the world to do it.
Look up the word Olgum.
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
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no offense taken that is a valid retort. i cannot demonstrate the validity of those other books. what i am interested in is the validity of the bible and that Jesus is my Savior and only true way to salvation. But i want to understand and accept that tenet with out bible quotes.

I'm thinking this could be a fun exercise and who knows in the end you might make a convert out of me.
 Quoting: Anubis


Sir, NOT one Christian can prove nothing to you when it comes to salvation and they do not have the power to convert anyone.

I said this to you on another thread.
I was like you about 20 years ago, but it took an act of God to reveal His Glory and His Son Jesus as we say in English.

Peace
 Quoting: Little Star


Yes i recall that. But as a practicing Christian, is it not one of your duties to witness? I am giving you the opportunity to do this.
 Quoting: Anubis


Watch the video first.
It will awaken you a bit.
Plus no reading need to be done.
That pastor that is on the video speaks and writes 28 languages.
He validates everything that is in the bible.
Goes all over the world to do it.
Look up the word Olgum.
 Quoting: Little Star


thank you LS i will.
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
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My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
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Merci

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I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
 Quoting: Anubis


You wont learn that from NO man.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
 Quoting: Anubis


You wont learn that from NO man.
 Quoting: Merci


exactly why i do not attend church or any organized religious ceremonies.
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You are gods child, not anubis's, for the seeds of wanting to know would not even be sprouting if you were not a child of gods..

Ask god for the answers and keep searching he will guide you to the truth.
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435052



My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
 Quoting: Merci


NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
 Quoting: Anubis


You wont learn that from NO man.
 Quoting: Merci


exactly why i do not attend church or any organized religious ceremonies.
 Quoting: Anubis


I as a Christian do not attend any church because of the corruptions.
Sorry my Christian brothers and sisters.
I worry about 2 Ep. John verses 10 and 11.
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
 Quoting: Anubis


You wont learn that from NO man.
 Quoting: Merci


exactly why i do not attend church or any organized religious ceremonies.
 Quoting: Anubis


Nor do I, Christ even stated you would not even find him in most churches in the end times.

Last Edited by Merci on 07/13/2012 05:24 PM
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
The only proof a person can have for themselves, begins with an inner-knowing that there must be some kind of Creator....and a sense of accountability to trying to understand that Creator, to live as truly righteously as possible for the sake of pleasing that Creator. To develop a hunger and thirst to know their Creator....to develop an inner honesty that tears down false perceptions about one's self and others......

Then, when one has searched with everything they have, and they can do nothing more to search.....that person is visited. That is to say, that the person is led from event to event.....from source to source..until they come to the burning bush.

When one receives this Visitation, and the Person of that Visitation calls Himself Jesus, and shows the Seeker a glimpse of reality and the scriptures....and draws the Seeker into a two-way communication....well - there is that proof.

It's a proof that is impossible for anyone else to appreciate because of it's very intimate nature. Only someone else who has been along the same Path, led by the same Voice will ever understand what such a Seeker is trying to talk about.

The rest of the world is looking for outward signs, outward evidences, but the Christ is ONLY found within the heart of the Seeker...and only after the Seeker has put the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness above all else in his/her life.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


well you have me with the first two paragraphs. i agree whole heartedly on those points.

you lost me on where the visitor calls himself "jesus" and the scriptures.
 Quoting: Anubis


How so?
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


i wholly acknowledge the grand design of the universe. i can see 'god' in everything. in animals, in plants, in nature, in the human 'spirit'.

but ive been burned in the past with organized religion. how am i supposed to adhere to any particular interpretation of the grand designer and his or it's name, let alone his or it's doctrine?
 Quoting: Anubis


Well, I believe it was Plato who called Him "The Light of All Truth." He was also called "The Genius." The Cathars claimed that there was a Good Spirit, (or something like that),living inside of people....The scriptures are only able to POINT to Him. They have no real benefit if the Seeker never finds Him. The important thing, (in my humble opinion), is the depth of honesty and humility a person approaches their search for Truth.

And what I think is ingenious about the whole thing is that a person can find the Truth on the INSIDE of themselves....NOT books, pul(pits), organizations, etc.

The person who seeks with all of their heart for the Truth will find it.....living within themselves the whole time. As long as they search with a perfect humility, and a perfect readiness for the Truth - rejecting ALL lies.

That is my experience of it, anyway.
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You are gods child, not anubis's, for the seeds of wanting to know would not even be sprouting if you were not a child of gods..

Ask god for the answers and keep searching he will guide you to the truth.
 Quoting: Merci


yes i agree i am god's child. Anubis is a myth. I only use his avatar. I hold no tack with ancient Egyptian mythology, so lets get that out of the way.

but when i say god i say god in the general term of the grand designer of the universe.
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I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435052



My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
 Quoting: Merci


NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435052


Moloch teachings are in the old testie and God hated it.
That is where we get today from many denominations the expression of this" Your going to burn in hell forever and forever being tormented".
God got so upset by this in the book of Hosea we see in Hosea 6:6 God says "I don't want your burnt offerings and etc. All I want is your love."
It say mercy, but that means love.

Today we even have the Bohemium grove worship which is Moloch Satan teachings in Northern Cali.
Many pastors, preachers, world leaders of all types go there to worship an owl and Satan.
Moloch teachings are from Satan.

Last Edited by Little Star on 07/13/2012 05:28 PM
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well you have me with the first two paragraphs. i agree whole heartedly on those points.

you lost me on where the visitor calls himself "jesus" and the scriptures.
 Quoting: Anubis


How so?
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


i wholly acknowledge the grand design of the universe. i can see 'god' in everything. in animals, in plants, in nature, in the human 'spirit'.

but ive been burned in the past with organized religion. how am i supposed to adhere to any particular interpretation of the grand designer and his or it's name, let alone his or it's doctrine?
 Quoting: Anubis


Well, I believe it was Plato who called Him "The Light of All Truth." He was also called "The Genius." The Cathars claimed that there was a Good Spirit, (or something like that),living inside of people....The scriptures are only able to POINT to Him. They have no real benefit if the Seeker never finds Him. The important thing, (in my humble opinion), is the depth of honesty and humility a person approaches their search for Truth.

And what I think is ingenious about the whole thing is that a person can find the Truth on the INSIDE of themselves....NOT books, pul(pits), organizations, etc.

The person who seeks with all of their heart for the Truth will find it.....living within themselves the whole time. As long as they search with a perfect humility, and a perfect readiness for the Truth - rejecting ALL lies.

That is my experience of it, anyway.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


well thank you that is along the lines of what i'd like to hear.
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No... I want you to prove to me that is is not valid...
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Re: ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.
I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
 Quoting: Merci


Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435052



My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
 Quoting: Merci


NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
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It goes something like this, follow all these outrageously difficult laws, make blood sacrifices for not following them or burn in hell forever.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
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My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
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NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
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Moloch teachings are in the old testie and God hated it.
That is where we get today from many denominations the expression of this" Your going to burn in hell forever and forever being tormented".
God got so upset by this in the book of Hosea we see in Hosea 6:6 God says "I don't want your burnt offerings and etc. All I want is your love."
It say mercy, but that means love.
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interesting....
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I have a question I have wondered about and maybe you can help with my perplexment on the subject.

Why do you care so much?

Why do people that do not embrace a christ care if others do?
They shout from the rooftops about their right to worship their one gods, statues, cows, aliens and oh; I don't know what all else.
But than, want to shout down, prove wrong, condemn, and ridicule others because they embrace a christ.

What happened to religious tolerance or does that rule only apply to those that embrace the christian faith?

Just curious, I know their will probably be those that assume all sorts of inaccurate ideas about me, just for asking.
Oh well, I know that is all normal and part of being human and their path they must travel, good or bad. But I still wonder;

Why is Mohammed, Buddha, and other deities off limits to the point of imprisonment and death but it is acceptable to have openly attack Christianity.

Doesn't that make you wonder, why?
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Jesus saying that His way is the way, and the truth, and the life wasn't a warning. It was a road sign....It wasn't said out of hatred for others, but to show you the way. You have to look with loving eyes at these things. We are not able to understand all this stuff yet. But to look at the love of Jesus and see a bully or somebody saying you have no freedom or choice is not the way it is.... He's saying IT'S THE ONLY WAY because he loves you. That's what you need to understand.
the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.

i want to know how and why they are the only one true path.
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You wanted proof outside of the Bible OP , well here it is .
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Jesus saying that His way is the way, and the truth, and the life wasn't a warning. It was a road sign....It wasn't said out of hatred for others, but to show you the way. You have to look with loving eyes at these things. We are not able to understand all this stuff yet. But to look at the love of Jesus and see a bully or somebody saying you have no freedom or choice is not the way it is.... He's saying IT'S THE ONLY WAY because he loves you. That's what you need to understand.
the reason for this thread is just like the poster on Agent Mulder's wall. I WANT TO BELIEVE.. There are so many 'spiritual options' and what i find peculiar about Christianity is their exclusionism. they are the ONLY ONE TRUE PATH.
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cmon OP prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the bible isn't the word of god.... you cant... just like christians can't just make you have faith and make u believe in Jesus Christ.... You cant teach the blind to see.
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Maybe its because christianity is the ONLY religion that has a god that is MORE than happy and UTTERLY willing and MORE than able to TORTURE you for all eternity by having you burnt alive..if you DONT BUY THE BUL.

The God that says..you have FREE WILL..no pressure..TAKE your time..but if you DONT BOW to me and CHOOSE ME..I WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..
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My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
 Quoting: Merci


NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
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Moloch teachings are in the old testie and God hated it.
That is where we get today from many denominations the expression of this" Your going to burn in hell forever and forever being tormented".
God got so upset by this in the book of Hosea we see in Hosea 6:6 God says "I don't want your burnt offerings and etc. All I want is your love."
It say mercy, but that means love.
 Quoting: Little Star


I know..sad isnt it?

But so many christians spout doom and death and hell and torture in such a smug arrogant evil way.

No wonder people cant stand em.
Christians these days are NOT hated because they are christians...they are hated because they are NOT.
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You wanted proof outside of the Bible OP , well here it is .
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i checked the link. are you referring to all text on that website or specifically the page on the Oldest Views and Literary Data on the External Appearance of Jesus the Nazarene. Because if you are resting your case on that I don't get it. All that proves is there are a vast group of people that generally agree on what a historical person generally looked like.

I don't deny that a Jesus existed when he did and where he did, and I'll give you that there is a general consensus on what the Jesus looked like. How does that prove he was the son of God. ?
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My understanding that is old testament and Judaic teachings not Christianity.
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NOPE..thats all NEW testament..ya wont find a sin scrap of eternal torture in the OLD testament..cause the Hebrews didnt TEACH it..it was a PAGAN beleif of egypt...thus god saw it as an abomination.

Go one..search the old testament..YA WONT FIND it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435052


Moloch teachings are in the old testie and God hated it.
That is where we get today from many denominations the expression of this" Your going to burn in hell forever and forever being tormented".
God got so upset by this in the book of Hosea we see in Hosea 6:6 God says "I don't want your burnt offerings and etc. All I want is your love."
It say mercy, but that means love.
 Quoting: Little Star


I know..sad isnt it?

But so many christians spout doom and death and hell and torture in such a smug arrogant evil way.

No wonder people cant stand em.
Christians these days are NOT hated because they are christians...they are hated because they are NOT.
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well that might be part of my problem.
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You wanted proof outside of the Bible OP , well here it is .
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i checked the link. are you referring to all text on that website or specifically the page on the Oldest Views and Literary Data on the External Appearance of Jesus the Nazarene. Because if you are resting your case on that I don't get it. All that proves is there are a vast group of people that generally agree on what a historical person generally looked like.

I don't deny that a Jesus existed when he did and where he did, and I'll give you that there is a general consensus on what the Jesus looked like. How does that prove he was the son of God. ?
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He fulfilled many prophecies that were written before he was born !
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You wanted proof outside of the Bible OP , well here it is .
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i checked the link. are you referring to all text on that website or specifically the page on the Oldest Views and Literary Data on the External Appearance of Jesus the Nazarene. Because if you are resting your case on that I don't get it. All that proves is there are a vast group of people that generally agree on what a historical person generally looked like.

I don't deny that a Jesus existed when he did and where he did, and I'll give you that there is a general consensus on what the Jesus looked like. How does that prove he was the son of God. ?
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I was referring to all the descriptions of Yeshua , the Son of God .