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ok here is your chance christians. an opportunity to prove the validity of the bible.

 
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Not a spelling warrior though...hahahah
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As a person that has an dyslexic problem, I struggle too at times trying to keep up with my fingers.

From eye, to brain, to mouth , it gets tough at times.

I offend wander if Moses had that issue. AFter all he had to have Aaron speak for him at times.
 Quoting: Little Star

With stuttering right?....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040

Amazing the people God chooses
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You seem like a kind of person I would like to know.
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okay ive removed the one rule

you may proceed with posting scripture.

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can we have some instances of the proliferation of fulfilled prophecies? and maybe some mathematical absurdities that are not possible any other way that to be divinely inspired (particularly in the hebrew and greek, but could also draw parallels to english translations)
 Quoting: Anubis


Satan has the power to blind the minds, 2 Corinthians 4:4 preventing the word of god from entering their hearts, Matthew 13:19, luke 8:11,
Satan speaks through false teachers 2 cor 11 13:15. He seeks to deceive about his existence, his purposes, his activities and his coming defeat.
 Quoting: Merci


ive often wondered about that.

ive always thought that what we call a 'conscience' is the voice of god but then lately i have another voice that seems to mock and ridicule everything i once thought was true.
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Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

Satan uses truth to propagate lies always as a subterfuge to promote deception while using a network of demonic forces and DUPED people to promote false doctrine in the name of god.
2 cor 11:3, Eph 4:14, 1 tim 4 1 -4, 2 tim. 3:13, 2 thess. 2:10
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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okay ive removed the one rule

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can we have some instances of the proliferation of fulfilled prophecies? and maybe some mathematical absurdities that are not possible any other way that to be divinely inspired (particularly in the hebrew and greek, but could also draw parallels to english translations)
 Quoting: Anubis


Satan has the power to blind the minds, 2 Corinthians 4:4 preventing the word of god from entering their hearts, Matthew 13:19, luke 8:11,
Satan speaks through false teachers 2 cor 11 13:15. He seeks to deceive about his existence, his purposes, his activities and his coming defeat.
 Quoting: Merci


ive often wondered about that.

ive always thought that what we call a 'conscience' is the voice of god but then lately i have another voice that seems to mock and ridicule everything i once thought was true.
 Quoting: Anubis


yes, time is short and satan knows this and is working overtime.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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Just for the record. Christians ain't perfect. Let me tell you something else. Ex-cons are Christians. Ex-junkies are Christians and Soldiers are Christians. When the chips are down guess who the bad asses are? That's right. So for anybody thinking Christians are pushovers and sitting around knitting sweaters I got news for you.

I assure you that ain't the way it is. Here's something else....If it weren't for Bible reading Christians we wouldn't have this little country of America. So think what you want. Read the bible and look at Gideon or David's story. Those stories are what brave men are made of these days. And that my friend is Valid. So valid that without it you wouldn't be having the freedom to choose what kind of religion you want. Just saying....Lovingly as a Christian.....hahaha
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You are right on the button on that.

God's chosen are NOT wimps at all.

As an ex-military man, I can tell you I am no wimp.

I got your back bro!
Good going.
 Quoting: Little Star


interesting.. i always assumed you were female LS i don't know why. thank you for your service.
 Quoting: Anubis


Ha ha.
Many think that and that is okay.
I took the avatar because of Job 38:7.
We are all STARs in Gods eyes. He calls us that in Job 38:7 from the beginning.
If everyone would look up the word "Star" in there STrongs they will see that the word "Star and STARS" refer to us.
God uses Hebraisms, figures of speech, metaphors, acrostics, symbolizes, and a whole gambit of ways like parables from Christ Himself.

If Christians would learn these things, the Word would open up greater things to them.
Like Eccl. chapter 12. First five verse's are nothing but metaphors.
Very few Christians understand this.
The NIV does translate it, but fails on verse five. Because those first five verse's are talking about the human body and what happens to it. (OLD AGE and the body dies but the Spirit goes back to God who gave it.)

I have used those scriptures on many of proud Christians and they fall on their face when I give them the metaphors.

Pastor after pastor have not learned this.

There is one on glp that says he is one of the end time two witness's.
I took his pride and made him eat it on that chapter.
And to this day if I get onto his long long thread, he becomes bitter because I am the only one that completely proved him wrong.
He was in the dark about those metaphors in the book of Eccl.
Not bragging, just letting everyone know I am a very good student in the Word because I like many have been hurt by going to those traditional church systems. And not only once, but many times.
So I asked God to open the Word to me and He sent to me my mentor and it was he that mentor that got me started into the manuscripts. And I love that person very much for listening to me and what had happen to me.
Many have fallen away from Christ because of the mis-teachings and the wicked things that many many pastors have done to them.
Those are the ones I go after the ones that got beat up.
Now here I am rambling on and saying too much.
I know the Word as a student really well because if it.
Some of the glp members have met me in person and know me.
Some even coming to great distance to meet with me.
I am very selective because some Christians have threaten me because I don't agree with them.
That is satanic when they do that and they don't know it.
Satan divides and that is why we even have "denominations".
PRIDE!

Many think I have that at times. I don't, I am just a very straight shooter (figure of speech) and I will not bend from what is written in the Word.
The Word confirms itself without me doing an interpretation of it, yet I get told by many that I am a false prophet. That is okay too, and they that do that forget Psalms 50:6.......
Blessings
 Quoting: Little Star


i actually DO have a strongs. i should crack it open again some time.
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As a person that has an dyslexic problem, I struggle too at times trying to keep up with my fingers.

From eye, to brain, to mouth , it gets tough at times.

I offend wander if Moses had that issue. AFter all he had to have Aaron speak for him at times.
 Quoting: Little Star

With stuttering right?....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040

Amazing the people God chooses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040


You seem like a kind of person I would like to know.
 Quoting: Little Star

You too man
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Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

Satan uses truth to propagate lies always as a subterfuge to promote deception while using a network of demonic forces and DUPED people to promote false doctrine in the name of god.
2 cor 11:3, Eph 4:14, 1 tim 4 1 -4, 2 tim. 3:13, 2 thess. 2:10
 Quoting: Merci


thank you. that's probably where i am.
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Got to go for now, been great chatting. Try to check back later.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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Got to go for now, been great chatting. Try to check back later.
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thanks so much. Merci!
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okay ive removed the one rule

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can we have some instances of the proliferation of fulfilled prophecies? and maybe some mathematical absurdities that are not possible any other way that to be divinely inspired (particularly in the hebrew and greek, but could also draw parallels to english translations)
 Quoting: Anubis


I got this from a guy named Bill Donahue, (whose theology I basically disagree with, but who has taught me a lot nonetheless).

1Kings 11:36 - And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant will have a LIGHT alway before me in Jerusalem....(talking about the tribe of Judah and calling it a "light.")

2Kings 8:19 - Yet the Lord would not destroy Judah for David, his servant's sake, as He promised him to give him alway a LIGHT, and to his children....(more attestation that Judah is the tribe of Light.)

IICronicles 21:7 - (more about Judah as the tribe of light....)

Numbers 2:9 - All that were numbered in the camp of Judah were (186,400).....

Which is the constant speed at which light travels.....

Thought it was pretty mind-blowing when I first read it.....still do. :)
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Got to go for now, been great chatting. Try to check back later.
 Quoting: Merci

I'm out too. Keep it going guys. It's a fun read
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I have a challenge for you.

I'd like you to prove the validity of the bible, and that Jesus Christ is the one true way to salvation.

I want to know how you can irrefutably know that His Way is the Only Way.

Why the other 500 religions, myths and belief systems are wrong and why Christianity is right.

I will say up front that i acknowledge the Universe did not happen by accident, there is a Grand Design and a Creator. That much i will give you.

I've heard and read just about every verse in the bible copied and pasted and preached over and over through the years.

I'd like someone to explain it succinctly, and in layman's terms why they are convinced their way is the true and only way.
 Quoting: Anubis


Go to youtube, and search for "near death experience hell." When you listen to these accounts, you find what they see are the hell and heaven described by the Bible. They too will often see Jesus, and never Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Thor, Ra, etc. These accounts include atheists, who don't even believe in hell, Jesus, angels, etc. But even multiple atheists are seeing the same thing, heaven, hell, Jesus, and more, that's all described in the Bible. The people, will also come across verifiable information, that gives evidence that their experience isn't merely a figment of the imagination. For example, one lady, has an NDE at a hospital. She floats to the top of the hospital and sees a shoe. After her NDE, she was later able to confirm this single shoe was there: there's many more examples like this.

The people, who sees hell, will also often smell rotten flesh and sulfur. Coincidentally, if you study legit demonic possession, people will often smell rotten flesh and sulfur from the demons. Some ways to know if it's a legit demonic possession. The exorcist, will begin speaking to the possessed person in Latin, knowing full well the person can't speak latin. If it's a legit possession, the possessed person will now begin speaking back in fluent latin, and will often blaspheme against God and Jesus.
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okay ive removed the one rule

you may proceed with posting scripture.

:)

can we have some instances of the proliferation of fulfilled prophecies? and maybe some mathematical absurdities that are not possible any other way that to be divinely inspired (particularly in the hebrew and greek, but could also draw parallels to english translations)
 Quoting: Anubis


I got this from a guy named Bill Donahue, (whose theology I basically disagree with, but who has taught me a lot nonetheless).

1Kings 11:36 - And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant will have a LIGHT alway before me in Jerusalem....(talking about the tribe of Judah and calling it a "light.")

2Kings 8:19 - Yet the Lord would not destroy Judah for David, his servant's sake, as He promised him to give him alway a LIGHT, and to his children....(more attestation that Judah is the tribe of Light.)

IICronicles 21:7 - (more about Judah as the tribe of light....)

Numbers 2:9 - All that were numbered in the camp of Judah were (186,400).....

Which is the constant speed at which light travels.....

Thought it was pretty mind-blowing when I first read it.....still do. :)
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Here's the link to his page...he tells it better than I do....

[link to www.hiddenmeanings.com]
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As a person that has an dyslexic problem, I struggle too at times trying to keep up with my fingers.

From eye, to brain, to mouth , it gets tough at times.

I offend wander if Moses had that issue. AFter all he had to have Aaron speak for him at times.
 Quoting: Little Star

With stuttering right?....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040


NO I don't stutter at all.

What I am saying is at times the English language gets my tongue tied.

I learned Hebrew and speak it better than English.

If you do a search on those that have a dyslexic issue, not all of them are slow.
20% even have a higher IQ than the so called "NORMAL" folk who do not have that issue.
There are eight of us siblings. Five of us suffer from this issue.
I have two sisters that really suffer badly with this issue, yet one of them can spell any word in the dictionary correctly each time.
But have her tell you what it means, she falls short.
I have another sister that struggles in all levels.
I had a brother who died this past Feb. who was slow with this problem, but once he learned something, he never forgot it.
Only myself and another brother have a high IQ.
" I am not bragging about that IQ" it is earthly and means nothing to me.
This is just a private note to you, and yes all can see it.

Being in the military and worked on 3 types of birds HELI's and trained others on them does take a bit of knowledge. lol.

I am a can do man!
LOL
Peace and blessings and nice to chat with ya.
 Quoting: Little Star


sorry to hear about your brother man.
 Quoting: Anubis


Hey, my brother is in heaven and he died in Christ not wavering.
I am very proud of him and he has a new body that is young and with him being a diabetic and had lost many toes and figures , he is now whole.
I myself died in 1993 and crossed over and that is what made me a Christian because no other name was being spoken in heaven and I knew nothing of the bible. I was just like you my new friend.

Now I don't tell much about that because it is personal.
I will tell you this tho, that many who say they crossed over, are lets say "liars".
They say that to make money or to play one upmanship.
I keep my mouth shut like I was told and I had a promise that all my brothers and sisters will come to God.
And they have, not by my words or action, but by God Himself.
That is why I say, no Christian can bring you to the Lord.
Only the Lord has that power.
Is He calling you? We shall see!
I will tell you this my friend, I knew you before you were born. HINT HINT HINT....

Not talking about reincarnation, that is of the Pharisees.
We have the same "spiritual" body within the flesh body as when we had then, and that spiritual body will be the same when it steps out of this flesh body.
Eccl. chapter 12: verses 6 and 7. The flesh turns back to dust but the Spirit goes back to God who gave it, or simple put, put it in this flesh body.
The bible tells us that we live at 40 70 or 120 years.
God does not want us on this earth any longer now than in the beginning when Noah and them were here.
He loves and misses us that much.
In heaven, we will look just like we do now. If you are old you will look young around 20 to 25 years old.

I saw angels and none of them looked old.
None of them had wings either.
Now that will separate the "liars" who say angels have wings.
What it is, is this:
Angels have a glow about their bodies. James 1:7 will verify that. Those who die in Christ their "white robes" are not material and some think. It is the glow around their bodies. God likes colors very much and I saw all kinds of clothing being warn.
The arch angels tho had a brighter light around them and do not have to be born of woman like the rest of us.
Their brightness is so bright that from the mid section of their body (belly) upwards glows about 8 to 10 inches above their heads and outwardly as long as their arms can reach.
But those who were born of Woman do not have that brightness that they do. (But they will after paradise and go into heaven)
Those across the gulf as Luke 16 teaches us, do not have glowing bodies. They are still spiritually dead and are waiting knowing and seeing paradise in shame. The word "flame"in Luke 16 is NOT, I repeat, IS NOT, real earthly fire, but is an idiom meaning "total or utmost shame".

Now we all know the shame of the "rich man" in Luke 16.

I may of said too much for some, but be as that may.

Blessings and I do have to run.
I hope OP you keep this thread going and watch that video.
I have an appointment with my lovely wife. And we are going out tonight.
For those men and woman married, never stop dating your mate.
Love is this: "Never put yourself in a position where you have to say your sorry." Have I had to do that with others?
Yep!
But not with my wife! Never argue, nor fight, pure LOVE from the beginning.

Blessings to all and I will book mark this so I can answer anyone after I leave.

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With stuttering right?....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040

Amazing the people God chooses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18758040


You seem like a kind of person I would like to know.
 Quoting: Little Star

You too man
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Hey, let me know who you are the next time. Make a fake name or something instead of using what you are doing now.
You can do it, but you have to write it on top of each posting if you do not sign up. You can sign up without paying, it is allowed.
YOu keep the faith bro.
Nice to know ya.
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Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

Satan uses truth to propagate lies always as a subterfuge to promote deception while using a network of demonic forces and DUPED people to promote false doctrine in the name of god.
2 cor 11:3, Eph 4:14, 1 tim 4 1 -4, 2 tim. 3:13, 2 thess. 2:10
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You are good sis.
NIce going...
blessings and good night.
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I have a challenge for you.

I'd like you to prove the validity of the bible, and that Jesus Christ is the one true way to salvation.

I want to know how you can irrefutably know that His Way is the Only Way.

Why the other 500 religions, myths and belief systems are wrong and why Christianity is right.

I will say up front that i acknowledge the Universe did not happen by accident, there is a Grand Design and a Creator. That much i will give you.

I've heard and read just about every verse in the bible copied and pasted and preached over and over through the years.

I'd like someone to explain it succinctly, and in layman's terms why they are convinced their way is the true and only way.
 Quoting: Anubis


Go to youtube, and search for "near death experience hell." When you listen to these accounts, you find what they see are the hell and heaven described by the Bible. They too will often see Jesus, and never Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Thor, Ra, etc. These accounts include atheists, who don't even believe in hell, Jesus, angels, etc. But even multiple atheists are seeing the same thing, heaven, hell, Jesus, and more, that's all described in the Bible. The people, will also come across verifiable information, that gives evidence that their experience isn't merely a figment of the imagination. For example, one lady, has an NDE at a hospital. She floats to the top of the hospital and sees a shoe. After her NDE, she was later able to confirm this single shoe was there: there's many more examples like this.

The people, who sees hell, will also often smell rotten flesh and sulfur. Coincidentally, if you study legit demonic possession, people will often smell rotten flesh and sulfur from the demons. Some ways to know if it's a legit demonic possession. The exorcist, will begin speaking to the possessed person in Latin, knowing full well the person can't speak latin. If it's a legit possession, the possessed person will now begin speaking back in fluent latin, and will often blaspheme against God and Jesus.
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thank you i have heard of this and will investigate further
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With stuttering right?....
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NO I don't stutter at all.

What I am saying is at times the English language gets my tongue tied.

I learned Hebrew and speak it better than English.

If you do a search on those that have a dyslexic issue, not all of them are slow.
20% even have a higher IQ than the so called "NORMAL" folk who do not have that issue.
There are eight of us siblings. Five of us suffer from this issue.
I have two sisters that really suffer badly with this issue, yet one of them can spell any word in the dictionary correctly each time.
But have her tell you what it means, she falls short.
I have another sister that struggles in all levels.
I had a brother who died this past Feb. who was slow with this problem, but once he learned something, he never forgot it.
Only myself and another brother have a high IQ.
" I am not bragging about that IQ" it is earthly and means nothing to me.
This is just a private note to you, and yes all can see it.

Being in the military and worked on 3 types of birds HELI's and trained others on them does take a bit of knowledge. lol.

I am a can do man!
LOL
Peace and blessings and nice to chat with ya.
 Quoting: Little Star


sorry to hear about your brother man.
 Quoting: Anubis


Hey, my brother is in heaven and he died in Christ not wavering.
I am very proud of him and he has a new body that is young and with him being a diabetic and had lost many toes and figures , he is now whole.
I myself died in 1993 and crossed over and that is what made me a Christian because no other name was being spoken in heaven and I knew nothing of the bible. I was just like you my new friend.

Now I don't tell much about that because it is personal.
I will tell you this tho, that many who say they crossed over, are lets say "liars".
They say that to make money or to play one upmanship.
I keep my mouth shut like I was told and I had a promise that all my brothers and sisters will come to God.
And they have, not by my words or action, but by God Himself.
That is why I say, no Christian can bring you to the Lord.
Only the Lord has that power.
Is He calling you? We shall see!
I will tell you this my friend, I knew you before you were born. HINT HINT HINT....

Not talking about reincarnation, that is of the Pharisees.
We have the same "spiritual" body within the flesh body as when we had then, and that spiritual body will be the same when it steps out of this flesh body.
Eccl. chapter 12: verses 6 and 7. The flesh turns back to dust but the Spirit goes back to God who gave it, or simple put, put it in this flesh body.
The bible tells us that we live at 40 70 or 120 years.
God does not want us on this earth any longer now than in the beginning when Noah and them were here.
He loves and misses us that much.
In heaven, we will look just like we do now. If you are old you will look young around 20 to 25 years old.

I saw angels and none of them looked old.
None of them had wings either.
Now that will separate the "liars" who say angels have wings.
What it is, is this:
Angels have a glow about their bodies. James 1:7 will verify that. Those who die in Christ their "white robes" are not material and some think. It is the glow around their bodies. God likes colors very much and I saw all kinds of clothing being warn.
The arch angels tho had a brighter light around them and do not have to be born of woman like the rest of us.
Their brightness is so bright that from the mid section of their body (belly) upwards glows about 8 to 10 inches above their heads and outwardly as long as their arms can reach.
But those who were born of Woman do not have that brightness that they do. (But they will after paradise and go into heaven)
Those across the gulf as Luke 16 teaches us, do not have glowing bodies. They are still spiritually dead and are waiting knowing and seeing paradise in shame. The word "flame"in Luke 16 is NOT, I repeat, IS NOT, real earthly fire, but is an idiom meaning "total or utmost shame".

Now we all know the shame of the "rich man" in Luke 16.

I may of said too much for some, but be as that may.

Blessings and I do have to run.
I hope OP you keep this thread going and watch that video.
I have an appointment with my lovely wife. And we are going out tonight.
For those men and woman married, never stop dating your mate.
Love is this: "Never put yourself in a position where you have to say your sorry." Have I had to do that with others?
Yep!
But not with my wife! Never argue, nor fight, pure LOVE from the beginning.

Blessings to all and I will book mark this so I can answer anyone after I leave.
 Quoting: Little Star


thank you so much for sharing. it means alot. if ive offended you in the past i apologize. sometimes i can be a little cantankerous.
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The Bible’s moral merit and relevance are not scientific quantities; objections against the moral merit and relevance of Biblical teachings may emanate from individuals who are just as prone as the rest of the human race to resist God’s message and to assert their own self-rule.

Some individuals may reject the case for applying the Bible’s message to themselves because of spiritual rebelliousness, rather than because of any deficiency in our answers.
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but that is kind of my point isnt it. i could write an elaborate book extolling the virtues of worshiping Me and how Me created the world and your only salvation is through Me.
 Quoting: Anubis


it's your choice...
" Sonny Liston is nothing. The man can't talk. The man can't fight. The man needs to take talking lessons. The man needs to take fighting lessons. And since he's fighting me, he needs falling lessons."

Muhammad Ali...
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The Bible’s moral merit and relevance are not scientific quantities; objections against the moral merit and relevance of Biblical teachings may emanate from individuals who are just as prone as the rest of the human race to resist God’s message and to assert their own self-rule.

Some individuals may reject the case for applying the Bible’s message to themselves because of spiritual rebelliousness, rather than because of any deficiency in our answers.
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but that is kind of my point isnt it. i could write an elaborate book extolling the virtues of worshiping Me and how Me created the world and your only salvation is through Me.
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it's your choice...
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ive removed the posting of scripture restriction.
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no offense taken that is a valid retort. i cannot demonstrate the validity of those other books. what i am interested in is the validity of the bible and that Jesus is my Savior and only true way to salvation. But i want to understand and accept that tenet with out bible quotes.

I'm thinking this could be a fun exercise and who knows in the end you might make a convert out of me.
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Sir, NOT one Christian can prove nothing to you when it comes to salvation and they do not have the power to convert anyone.

I said this to you on another thread.
I was like you about 20 years ago, but it took an act of God to reveal His Glory and His Son Jesus as we say in English.

Peace
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Yes i recall that. But as a practicing Christian, is it not one of your duties to witness? I am giving you the opportunity to do this.
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Watch the video first.
It will awaken you a bit.
Plus no reading need to be done.
That pastor that is on the video speaks and writes 28 languages.
He validates everything that is in the bible.
Goes all over the world to do it.
Look up the word Olgum.
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sorry LS which video? i went back and can't find the link

can you repost the link or embed? thank you.
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Well I can think of a few things but I guess the one that comes to mind first it the power in the name "Jesus". If you've ever seen an exorcism, you can see how demonic forces react to the name. Also you see where it's being banned from use. People who claim they've been abducted by ETs have also said they respond to the name Jesus.

I don't know any other name that has that kind of power.
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That's from the combined force and power of the believers, the many who have believed for so many centuries. It doesn't mean the belief is true, just that it is very strong.
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Well I can think of a few things but I guess the one that comes to mind first it the power in the name "Jesus". If you've ever seen an exorcism, you can see how demonic forces react to the name. Also you see where it's being banned from use. People who claim they've been abducted by ETs have also said they respond to the name Jesus.

I don't know any other name that has that kind of power.
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That's from the combined force and power of the believers, the many who have believed for so many centuries. It doesn't mean the belief is true, just that it is very strong.
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i was kind of thinking that too.

if the exorcists believed the demon slayer's name was Barney and they truly believed that Barney could oust the unclean spirit from the host, and the host believed in the power of Barney then Barney could do it.

but maybe im wrong.
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You are right on the button on that.

God's chosen are NOT wimps at all.

As an ex-military man, I can tell you I am no wimp.

I got your back bro!
Good going.
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interesting.. i always assumed you were female LS i don't know why. thank you for your service.
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Ha ha.
Many think that and that is okay.
I took the avatar because of Job 38:7.
We are all STARs in Gods eyes. He calls us that in Job 38:7 from the beginning.
If everyone would look up the word "Star" in there STrongs they will see that the word "Star and STARS" refer to us.
God uses Hebraisms, figures of speech, metaphors, acrostics, symbolizes, and a whole gambit of ways like parables from Christ Himself.

If Christians would learn these things, the Word would open up greater things to them.
Like Eccl. chapter 12. First five verse's are nothing but metaphors.
Very few Christians understand this.
The NIV does translate it, but fails on verse five. Because those first five verse's are talking about the human body and what happens to it. (OLD AGE and the body dies but the Spirit goes back to God who gave it.)

I have used those scriptures on many of proud Christians and they fall on their face when I give them the metaphors.

Pastor after pastor have not learned this.

There is one on glp that says he is one of the end time two witness's.
I took his pride and made him eat it on that chapter.
And to this day if I get onto his long long thread, he becomes bitter because I am the only one that completely proved him wrong.
He was in the dark about those metaphors in the book of Eccl.
Not bragging, just letting everyone know I am a very good student in the Word because I like many have been hurt by going to those traditional church systems. And not only once, but many times.
So I asked God to open the Word to me and He sent to me my mentor and it was he that mentor that got me started into the manuscripts. And I love that person very much for listening to me and what had happen to me.
Many have fallen away from Christ because of the mis-teachings and the wicked things that many many pastors have done to them.
Those are the ones I go after the ones that got beat up.
Now here I am rambling on and saying too much.
I know the Word as a student really well because if it.
Some of the glp members have met me in person and know me.
Some even coming to great distance to meet with me.
I am very selective because some Christians have threaten me because I don't agree with them.
That is satanic when they do that and they don't know it.
Satan divides and that is why we even have "denominations".
PRIDE!

Many think I have that at times. I don't, I am just a very straight shooter (figure of speech) and I will not bend from what is written in the Word.
The Word confirms itself without me doing an interpretation of it, yet I get told by many that I am a false prophet. That is okay too, and they that do that forget Psalms 50:6.......
Blessings
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i actually DO have a strongs. i should crack it open again some time.
 Quoting: Anubis


just for your guys reference:
strongs word H3556:
star
a) of Messiah, brothers, youth, numerous progeny, personification, Gods omniscience (fig.)
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OP, why are you asking for valitity when you already know?
from about every response ive read from you, i know you know.
wether you wish to accept what you know, should be your true question.
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They say that God says to me, "Forgive your enemies." I say, "I do;" but he says, "I will torture MINE forever and ever in unbearable AGONY." God should be consistent. If he wants me to forgive my enemies he should forgive his. I am asked to forgive enemies who can hurt me. God is only asked to forgive enemies who cannot hurt him. He certainly ought to be as generous as he asks us to be.
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I have a challenge for you.

I'd like you to prove the validity of the bible, and that Jesus Christ is the one true way to salvation.

I want to know how you can irrefutably know that His Way is the Only Way.

Why the other 500 religions, myths and belief systems are wrong and why Christianity is right.

I will say up front that i acknowledge the Universe did not happen by accident, there is a Grand Design and a Creator. That much i will give you.

I've heard and read just about every verse in the bible copied and pasted and preached over and over through the years.

I'd like someone to explain it succinctly, and in layman's terms why they are convinced their way is the true and only way.
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OK... We've got a choice...

A) We believe the most righteous, honest, and truthful man to ever walk the face of the earth. The one who said "I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life. No one comes unto the father, except by Me."

Or...

B) Some foul asshat internet clown with an agenda, and a mythological Egyptian "god" for an avatar.


OK... I'm going to sleep on it, an I'll get back to you later.
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I have a challenge for you.

I'd like you to prove the validity of the bible, and that Jesus Christ is the one true way to salvation.

I want to know how you can irrefutably know that His Way is the Only Way.

Why the other 500 religions, myths and belief systems are wrong and why Christianity is right.

I will say up front that i acknowledge the Universe did not happen by accident, there is a Grand Design and a Creator. That much i will give you.

I've heard and read just about every verse in the bible copied and pasted and preached over and over through the years.

I'd like someone to explain it succinctly, and in layman's terms why they are convinced their way is the true and only way.
 Quoting: Anubis





OK... We've got a choice...

A) We believe the most righteous, honest, and truthful man to ever walk the face of the earth. The one who said "I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life. No one comes unto the father, except by Me."

Or...

B) Some foul asshat internet clown with an agenda, and a mythological Egyptian "god" for an avatar.


OK... I'm going to sleep on it, an I'll get back to you later.
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LOL!
what you dont like anubus?
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I have a challenge for you.

I'd like you to prove the validity of the bible, and that Jesus Christ is the one true way to salvation.

I want to know how you can irrefutably know that His Way is the Only Way.

Why the other 500 religions, myths and belief systems are wrong and why Christianity is right.

I will say up front that i acknowledge the Universe did not happen by accident, there is a Grand Design and a Creator. That much i will give you.

I've heard and read just about every verse in the bible copied and pasted and preached over and over through the years.

I'd like someone to explain it succinctly, and in layman's terms why they are convinced their way is the true and only way.
 Quoting: Anubis





OK... We've got a choice...

A) We believe the most righteous, honest, and truthful man to ever walk the face of the earth. The one who said "I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life. No one comes unto the father, except by Me."

Or...

B) Some foul asshat internet clown with an agenda, and a mythological Egyptian "god" for an avatar.


OK... I'm going to sleep on it, an I'll get back to you later.
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LOL!
what you dont like anubus?
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It has nothing to DO with "like.

However, I will say that I'm sick to death of Satan, and his army of deceivers. Who's job is to destroy faith, and undermine the words of the Lord.

Anyhooo... Keep on laughing like a hyena. No skin off my back.

Have a night.

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