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UFOs = TIME TRAVELERS

 
Anonymous Coward
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I'm of the opinion that the UFO thing is complete BS, BUT if the stories are true and the ET's look humanoid then I am inclined to believe they would have to be time travelers. The likelihood that a being from another planet would be humanoid in appearance is basically zero.
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I do not agree...Humanity was created...that it true...humanity has what they call 'Junk DNA'...think about all the millions of random acts that caused life to form...but yet was not random...Humanity can be created anywhere...Can come into being...Anywhere....Humanity living on this one tiny planet is not something rare...It has happened elsewhere...One just has to look out toward the stars to see it...For ALL humanity is made up from the same thing...Star Dust...Life is life...It is EVERYWHERE!
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You typed so much, yet you said nothing. More woo-woo BS.
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07/14/2012 02:21 PM
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07/14/2012 02:45 PM
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I have been sat reading tentatively reading all the comments here, this here is probably the most fascinating read on Glp for a long time.

I will return later on for more.
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Ask yourself this question:

Do you think that at ANY time in the future (whether it's 10 years from now or 10,000 years from now), time travel will be possible?

If you answer "yes" to that question, then it must be conceded that it's possible we're now (and have been in the past) being visited.

Physicists have theorized that time travel might involve the "bending" of the time line. In other words, it would part from our linear time/space way of thinking. Take a piece of paper. Draw a dot on one end of the paper and draw another dot on the other end of the paper. Instead of trying to get from one dot to the other by traveling across the paper, you would instead fold the paper in half, thus effectively bringing your destination closer to you. If I remember correctly, wormholes are involved. I'm sure there are people on GLP who are more apprised of the details than I am.

Also, it's interesting to consider our Government's response to UFO sightings since WWII. When they do investigate (Robertson Panel, Project Blue Book, Condon Report, etc.), they consistently assure us that there's "no threat to national security." If these UFOs are indeed time travelers (read: us from the future), then our government officials would not be lying when they tell us there's no threat to us.

It's also interesting to note the alleged attention our nuclear facilities (particularly our nuke weapons facilities) receive from UFOs. After dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, the Enola Gay and most of the rest of the 509th Bomb Group of the Strategic Air Command was stationed at Roswell Army Air Field in Roswell, New Mexico. Could this be why ostensible time travelers had an interest in the Roswell area? Not to mention the nuke testing that went on there prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki at White Sands, New Mexico.

Also in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, UFOs appeared over flight lines and nuclear missile silos at several American Strategic Air Command (read: nuke) bases, including Malstrom AFB in Montana (1967), Minot AFB, Edwards AFB, and Bentwaters AFB (U.S. base) in England (1980s). Allegedly, some of the nuclear launch codes were changed, or were briefly rendered inoperable.

Once humankind learned to harness the energy of the split atom, the future of humanity (hence the time travelers from the future's very existence) would be in jeopardy for the first time in our history (as far as we know). Prior to the nuclear bomb, no other weapon that we know of has had the potential to destroy civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardly Lion


Doesnt it make more sense that the aliens are simply beings living on another planet in our solar system, possibly as close as the moon, and have figured out out to push a giant metal object through space to visit another planet?

I mean, maybe someday we earthlings will be able to get a giant metal object to another planet.

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07/14/2012 03:58 PM

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Anonymous Coward
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07/14/2012 06:32 PM
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Vacuum decay anyone, come on, I know some of you are smart enough to discuss this, where are you?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Quite a few smart enough to discuss it, helps if you give a link to help those that would get it but have not come across it in their experience yet.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Nucleation of bubbles at the quantum level to skip the whole universe down to a more stable configuration? Maybe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19737792


I was thinking more like we are in a bubble, the space between dimensions being none vacuous, what if somebody tried to cross that line and ruptured the "bubble" so to speak?
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07/15/2012 12:08 AM
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Maybe they have changed little things that give us clues? Like on 9/11... maybe in planned attack Flight 93 did hit WTC7 ... and it would have all went perfect.
Maybe someone came back and just altered one minor detail (shooting down the missile that was headed for wtc7) and that detail is now our smoking gun! Think about it... lots of "orbs" during 911.. and when wtc7 fell for no reason - Bam! We have future intervention!

Something to think about.
 Quoting: Sam Santino 16172614


A few people have mentioned 9/11 and asked why, if there are time travelers, they didn't stop it? Two points on this...

First, I believe that if what we are seeing are indeed time traveling craft from the future coming here, I would think (just my opinion) that they'd interfere as little as possible; only interjecting where it was absolutely necessary. Although I realize that there have been UFO sightings for millennia it seems, during and since WWII, sightings of UFOs have increased exponentially. Could this be because of the nuclear testing and use of nuclear weapons during and since WWII? As I mentioned earlier, nuclear weapons usher in the first time humankind is capable of literally destroying itself, for all intents and purposes. For the first time ever (that we know of), humankind has learned how to split the atom and harness that energy. In other words, for the first time ever, we're capable of threatening the existence of ourselves in the future. Maybe "we" are coming back from the future to make sure this doesn't happen. Self preservation.

As horrific as 9/11 was, it wasn't a cataclysm that threatened the existence of humankind. As Americans, it's natural to think that way, because what occurred within our own country was so horrendous. And I don't mean to be cold or unfeeling, but on a larger scale, I wouldn't think 9/11 would be reason for time travelers from the future to come back and interfere. 9/11 was more of an internecine squabble, whether it was allowed to have happened, or whether it was as we've been told. And again, I don't use the word "squabble" lightly. I'm merely trying to see how it would be interpreted by time travelers from the future, in this scenario.

To sum up, 9/11 didn't have the civilization destroying effect that would warrant time travelers to come back and interfere. It didn't threaten humanity or civilization. The AFTER effects of it, however, might. That's still to be determined. But the testing and using of nuclear bombs during the end and aftermath of WWII, I would think, certainly would.
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07/15/2012 12:11 AM
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The ideas, comments, theories, and links from you guys are fantastic! I need to really sit down and examine them. This is some good stuff!
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07/15/2012 12:15 AM
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Everything must be in balance. However any alien/demonic/future creature gets here, it's because in some way we've called them by acting or making things out of whack.

Greys for example, regardless of their origin, are a representation of our massive fear of the possibilities between black and white.
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07/15/2012 12:18 AM
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I agree with the poster above - nuclear weapons send a signal across everything, time, space, what have you.

If aliens indeed were interstellar beings, watching over the development of others (as life is precious in this universe, hanging in the deep blackness of space, and powerful enough to keep the universe turning) then a nuclear explosion would be like a lightning bolt coming out of a baby monitor.

Also think we'll see something major with this higgs field stuff soon - I get the feeling it won't allow us to travel faster than light, but may let us build something with which we can communicate anywhere instantaneously. Just a weird hunch.
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07/15/2012 12:24 AM
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Vacuum decay anyone, come on, I know some of you are smart enough to discuss this, where are you?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Quite a few smart enough to discuss it, helps if you give a link to help those that would get it but have not come across it in their experience yet.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Nucleation of bubbles at the quantum level to skip the whole universe down to a more stable configuration? Maybe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19737792


I was thinking more like we are in a bubble, the space between dimensions being none vacuous, what if somebody tried to cross that line and ruptured the "bubble" so to speak?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


The energy required to get out of the metastable point and into the more stable one is pretty high - if the bubble could be ruptured and was pointed into a perfect vacuum we'd all end up on the other side instantly, with no real change.
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Nice to see people on here getting along and talking about a subject instead of just insults being whipped around!
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The thought that UFO's could be us visiting ourselves from the future is somthing that i have considered for a long time.

Looking into this subject, i came across this. I'm sure you GLP readers will find this fasinating...
[link to www.garvandwane.com]
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Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.