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Vaccination=666 just like bio-implant and mark of the beast. Watch the entire video

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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
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"The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger."--Dr Buchwald, M.D.

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.
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there was a continuing decline in the annual death rate from smallpox, with a reduction in mortality of roughly 300 per million to virtually 0, taking place in the 60 year period following the middle of the last century. This table further illustrates that the progressive rate of decline was severely disrupted--with a roughly 275 percent increase in mortality from the disease--occurring immediately after smallpox vaccination laws were enforced.58
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vaccination act
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Sacred Cow or Golden Calf?

Many concerned parents today refuse to vaccinate their children; they fear the vaccinations more than the diseases and a growing number of professionals are feeling the same way.

As pediatrician Robert Mendelsohn, MD wrote: "Much of what you have been led to believe about immunizations simply isn't true. I not only have grave misgivings about them, if I were to follow my deep convictions…I would urge you to reject all inoculations for your child."(1)

Jane Orient, MD, representing the Association of Physicians and Surgeons in an address at the US House of Representatives (June 14, 1999) said this: For most children, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of hepatitis B…. Asthma and insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus…have nearly doubled in incidence since the introduction of many new, mandatory vaccines…[as have the] huge increase in reports of autism and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder….(2)

Have Vaccinations Eradicated Disease?

Infectious diseases began to decline long before the advent of vaccinations: "Actual statistics and records from around the world show that…smallpox, diphtheria, whooping cough, scarlet fever, etc., began to disappear long before immunizations ever came on the scene."(3)

The combined death rate from scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough and measles among children up to fifteen shows that nearly 90% of the total decline in mortality between 1860 and 1965 occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization.(4)

[link to www.vaccination.co.uk]
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
[link to www.whale.to]
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From the charts, a lot of the vaccines seemed to help a little in declining death rates though.
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From the charts, a lot of the vaccines seemed to help a little in declining death rates though.
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the drop off could also simply be a continuation of the trend and not due to the vaccines
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
[link to www.whale.to]
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From the charts, a lot of the vaccines seemed to help a little in declining death rates though.
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the drop off could also simply be a continuation of the trend and not due to the vaccines
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there was a continuing decline in the annual death rate from smallpox, with a reduction in mortality of roughly 300 per million to virtually 0, taking place in the 60 year period following the middle of the last century. This table further illustrates that the progressive rate of decline was severely disrupted--with a roughly 275 percent increase in mortality from the disease--occurring immediately after smallpox vaccination laws were enforced.58
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
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"The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger."--Dr Buchwald, M.D.

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.
 Quoting: freedomain


there was a continuing decline in the annual death rate from smallpox, with a reduction in mortality of roughly 300 per million to virtually 0, taking place in the 60 year period following the middle of the last century. This table further illustrates that the progressive rate of decline was severely disrupted--with a roughly 275 percent increase in mortality from the disease--occurring immediately after smallpox vaccination laws were enforced.58
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vaccination act
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: freedomain


Sacred Cow or Golden Calf?

Many concerned parents today refuse to vaccinate their children; they fear the vaccinations more than the diseases and a growing number of professionals are feeling the same way.

As pediatrician Robert Mendelsohn, MD wrote: "Much of what you have been led to believe about immunizations simply isn't true. I not only have grave misgivings about them, if I were to follow my deep convictions…I would urge you to reject all inoculations for your child."(1)

Jane Orient, MD, representing the Association of Physicians and Surgeons in an address at the US House of Representatives (June 14, 1999) said this: For most children, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of hepatitis B…. Asthma and insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus…have nearly doubled in incidence since the introduction of many new, mandatory vaccines…[as have the] huge increase in reports of autism and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder….(2)

Have Vaccinations Eradicated Disease?

Infectious diseases began to decline long before the advent of vaccinations: "Actual statistics and records from around the world show that…smallpox, diphtheria, whooping cough, scarlet fever, etc., began to disappear long before immunizations ever came on the scene."(3)

The combined death rate from scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough and measles among children up to fifteen shows that nearly 90% of the total decline in mortality between 1860 and 1965 occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization.(4)

[link to www.vaccination.co.uk]
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
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The fact of the matter is that there is as much proof that Rock and Roll ended childhood diseases, as there is for vaccinations. Both occurred in the 50's, after diseases had already experienced a 90-95% decrease over the prior century.

So there you have it, Rock and Roll cured disease.
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The fact of the matter is that there is as much proof that Rock and Roll ended childhood diseases, as there is for vaccinations. Both occurred in the 50's, after diseases had already experienced a 90-95% decrease over the prior century.

So there you have it, Rock and Roll cured disease.
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yay good old rock n roll

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The fact of the matter is that there is as much proof that Rock and Roll ended childhood diseases, as there is for vaccinations. Both occurred in the 50's, after diseases had already experienced a 90-95% decrease over the prior century.

So there you have it, Rock and Roll cured disease.
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yay good old rock n roll

5a
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[link to www.doesntevenmakesense.com] great article for showing vaxnoobs.
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The fact of the matter is that there is as much proof that Rock and Roll ended childhood diseases, as there is for vaccinations. Both occurred in the 50's, after diseases had already experienced a 90-95% decrease over the prior century.

So there you have it, Rock and Roll cured disease.
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yay good old rock n roll

5a
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[link to www.doesntevenmakesense.com] great article for showing vaxnoobs.
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thanks interesting link
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Kspbump
vaccinefreehealth blogspot com

The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child.

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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
[link to www.whale.to]
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bs
as the whordes and whores of ILLEGALS bring in their unvaccinated arses and diseases
and all the ooooooooooooooooh so smart and smarmys' KIDS
get measles,mumps,whooping cough etc.
and these illegals IMPORT DISEASES COMMON IN THEIR NATIONS, diseases we DON'T VACCINATE AGAINST such as tb,leprosy etc
which WERE BASICALLY WIPED OUT in the USA via STRICT ENFORCEMEMNT OF ALL IMMIGRATION and PUBLIC HEALTH LAWS=-

so your hypothesis that better standards of living and health
WIPED OUT THESE DISEASES remains bs.

the VACCINATED POPULATION along with the good standards eradicated these ONCE NORMAL diseases
which ARE making a come back.
DRUG RESISTANT TB was unknown HERE,now is flourishing in our turd world nabes and of course treated on our dime,
again the whooping cough and measles etc.
formerly WIPED OUT and unseen since the 50s in the USA--why ? vaccinations.

listen,YOU refuse to vaccinate ? FINE.
your kid gets ill and suffers sequela/after effects as in deaf,seizure disorders etc associated with HIGH FEVERS--fine.
but stop the bs.

MILLIONS UPON MILLION WERE VACCINATED with the OLD vaccines and there was no upshot of autism etc.


as for ME and MINE we are protected against the BASIC SHITE as in MMR,polio ,diphteria,whooping cough and tetanus.
those of us that were LEGAL entrants have small pox,typhoid etc --WHY ? because these diseases WERE STILL AROUND and we are not from a turd world nation either and WOULD NOT be importing THEM TO the USA.

ask anyone STILL LIVING what those epidemics of diptheria etc were like and how those inhome wakes were for infants and children. THESE DISEASES CAUSED DEATH. and still DO.


NOW FREAK OUT AND FLAME.
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WE agree that these things are BAD by your definition. WE all want the same thing. These diseases have not been eradicated or cured. It would be well worth everyone's time to find out how to permanently get rid of these things or how to cure them if the occur.
OP the Bubonic Plague is a great example of living standards and the spread of diseases contagions.Thank you for the articles many are well written and professional.
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Yep, The Bubonic Plague is in Colorado right now.

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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The fact of the matter is that there is as much proof that Rock and Roll ended childhood diseases, as there is for vaccinations. Both occurred in the 50's, after diseases had already experienced a 90-95% decrease over the prior century.

So there you have it, Rock and Roll cured disease.
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credit to Joe the Plumber, the best vaccinator on planet Earth.

We adopted more hygenic life that wiped out many diseases and most of the graphs showing decline in disease is because of plumbings and the advancing of.... but don't tell this to sheople, they are heavy programmed and holding onto the belief that vaccinations caused these declines in diseases.
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
[link to www.whale.to]
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Now here's something scarey. They are developing genes so vaccines can be put in food! This is supposed to be for third world countries, but how will we know if the tomato we buy has a vaccine in it??

Is this one more reason Monsanto, et al, are pushing so hard to vote no on Proposition 37, which calls for labeling of GMO foods?

[link to www.abc.net.au]

"Charles Arntzen: For example, it's possible to take a single gene from a virus and as a result, the plants end up synthesising a virus-like particle, our immune system recognises it and mounts an immune response against it.

Maryke Steffens: Researchers have been tweaking the genes of everyday foods such as tomatoes, potatoes and corn so that they produce vaccines to stimulate your immune system. John Howard (no relation) from Prodigene, a plant technology company, is working with corn.

John Howard: What we've looked at to date was processing corn into little corn puffs, if you like, or corn germ, which is like about a tablespoon; the last test we gave them roughly a spoonful of this corn germ material, but we could put it into a wafer like a cookie, it could be put into a pill form, like a capsule, a number of ways they can do it.

Maryke Steffens: But it's not only needle phobia that's encouraging scientists to explore the possibility of plants as vaccine warehouses. Most vaccines are made in animal cell processors. One of the advantages of growing these products in plants is that it reduces the risk of infection from unwanted animal pathogens, such as Mad Cow Disease. Plus, according to John Howard, it seems that many plant-based vaccines could be more cost effective.

John Howard: We're talking about orders and orders of magnitude more cost efficient. The raw material cost being around a penny, and it of course makes a big difference when you go into developing countries where cost is a much bigger issue than it is in the Western developed countries."
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Now here's something scarey. They are developing genes so vaccines can be put in food! This is supposed to be for third world countries, but how will we know if the tomato we buy has a vaccine in it??

Is this one more reason Monsanto, et al, are pushing so hard to vote no on Proposition 37, which calls for labeling of GMO foods?

[link to www.abc.net.au]

"Charles Arntzen: For example, it's possible to take a single gene from a virus and as a result, the plants end up synthesising a virus-like particle, our immune system recognises it and mounts an immune response against it.

Maryke Steffens: Researchers have been tweaking the genes of everyday foods such as tomatoes, potatoes and corn so that they produce vaccines to stimulate your immune system. John Howard (no relation) from Prodigene, a plant technology company, is working with corn.

John Howard: What we've looked at to date was processing corn into little corn puffs, if you like, or corn germ, which is like about a tablespoon; the last test we gave them roughly a spoonful of this corn germ material, but we could put it into a wafer like a cookie, it could be put into a pill form, like a capsule, a number of ways they can do it.

Maryke Steffens: But it's not only needle phobia that's encouraging scientists to explore the possibility of plants as vaccine warehouses. Most vaccines are made in animal cell processors. One of the advantages of growing these products in plants is that it reduces the risk of infection from unwanted animal pathogens, such as Mad Cow Disease. Plus, according to John Howard, it seems that many plant-based vaccines could be more cost effective.

John Howard: We're talking about orders and orders of magnitude more cost efficient. The raw material cost being around a penny, and it of course makes a big difference when you go into developing countries where cost is a much bigger issue than it is in the Western developed countries."
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very interesting thanks
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"The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger."--Dr Buchwald, M.D.

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.
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And dry air inhome at school and at work with gasses and complete oxygen gaps with no oxygen just dirty garden grass.
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if you think vaccinations wiped out diseases look at this -
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