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Freedom = Censorship?

 
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Freedom = Censorship?
Think you have the right to speak freely via cellphones, websites and social media? Well, the companies that provide you with access to the Internet don’t.

The framers drafted the First Amendment as a check on government authority — not corporate power. But whether we’re texting friends, sharing photos on Facebook, or posting updates on Twitter, we’re connecting with each other and the Internet via privately controlled networks.

And the owners of these networks are now twisting the intent of the First Amendment to claim the right to control everyone's online information.

Right before the Fourth of July, Verizon filed a brief [link to gigaom2.files.wordpress.com] with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit that expressed this intent in no uncertain terms. The brief was part of the telecom company’s bid to overturn the Federal Communications Commission’s Net Neutrality rules, which prohibit carriers from blocking or discriminating against Internet users’ content.

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07/15/2012 12:56 PM

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Well, Phen, we all knew it was too good to last.
100,000 sperm and you were the fastest? LMAO!
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07/15/2012 12:57 PM
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I'm getting sick of these controlling bastards !!! redface
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07/15/2012 12:57 PM
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good catch phenn 5stars , I think we lost most our freedom along time ago spock
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07/15/2012 12:57 PM

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Sad and scarey.

When all this smoke clears from this joke of an election... we wake up to find the corporations have bribed congress into removing all of our rights for their profit potential.

We will then know who actually runs this piece of shit...erm...country. here is a clue....It's not us!
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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07/15/2012 01:13 PM

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I'm not exactly sure what to call what we are becoming...a corporatocracy?...a Plutocracy? A Oligarchy?

Regardless what you call it, it is the new "Golden Rule"..."He that has the Gold makes the rules."

I can completely understand the "doom watchers" on this and other sites...they may be wiser than a lot of people give them credit for...not that it's going to happen, but it can appear to be the only "real" solution.

The "goldsters" have all the power, all the technology and all the means...us "peasants" have no way to put up much of a fight for long...so revolution/rebellion is pointless.

No...the only hope is cataclysm. Cataclysm is unprejudiced...it kills everything equally...it doesn't care how much or how little money you have.

Only when we have been slapped back to the stone age will we have the chance to fix what we allowed to break. Maybe...just maybe, we can start things off right next time.

I enjoy the "doom" threads on here. For the most part, they make me laugh...but at the heart, I can kinda understand why people so hope for it. It sometimes looks like that is the only way to strip away the corruption and start clean and fresh.
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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07/15/2012 01:14 PM
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I'm getting sick of these controlling bastards !!! redface
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It's like they're drilling for the nerve...
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07/15/2012 01:16 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what to call what we are becoming...a corporatocracy?...a Plutocracy? A Oligarchy?

Regardless what you call it, it is the new "Golden Rule"..."He that has the Gold makes the rules."

I can completely understand the "doom watchers" on this and other sites...they may be wiser than a lot of people give them credit for...not that it's going to happen, but it can appear to be the only "real" solution.

The "goldsters" have all the power, all the technology and all the means...us "peasants" have no way to put up much of a fight for long...so revolution/rebellion is pointless.

No...the only hope is cataclysm. Cataclysm is unprejudiced...it kills everything equally...it doesn't care how much or how little money you have.

Only when we have been slapped back to the stone age will we have the chance to fix what we allowed to break. Maybe...just maybe, we can start things off right next time.

I enjoy the "doom" threads on here. For the most part, they make me laugh...but at the heart, I can kinda understand why people so hope for it. It sometimes looks like that is the only way to strip away the corruption and start clean and fresh.
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The only hope is peaceful non compliance, simple as that, those guys can't do a thing if we as a whole don't comply... I mean you can't stop them, but it also works the other way.
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07/15/2012 01:17 PM
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Well, Phen, we all knew it was too good to last.
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I agree with this and we will loose everything every other country has lost soon enough.......unfeathered freedom
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07/15/2012 01:17 PM
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I'm getting sick of these controlling bastards !!! redface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19804382


It's like they're drilling for the nerve...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12574507


Yeah , they make my blood boil . Do they want revolution ?
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07/15/2012 01:18 PM

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Well, Phen, we all knew it was too good to last.
 Quoting: hawk8414


I agree with this and we will loose everything every other country has lost soon enough.......unfeathered freedom
 Quoting: CtYankee


for yrs we have watched this country go down the crapper.

the will of the people ignored.

1984 folks went from fiction to non fiction
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07/15/2012 01:20 PM
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"WAR IS PEACE"

"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY"

"IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"


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Says the Minitrue.
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07/15/2012 01:24 PM
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I worked in government and was told half jokingly 15 years ago that toasters and TVs would watch and record everything you do in 10 years. So that would have made it around 2005. I assume I have zero privacy 24/7 in the current age worldwide. All I can say is , I'm a grown man sitting at the computer wearing Batman underwear and drinking Busch beer. Hope they like the show.
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07/15/2012 01:30 PM
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It's high time the American people take back what is rightfully theirs. The internet is an extension of our natural ability to communicate. Our communications are not "property" that can be bought, sold and traded as a commodity (unless we allow).
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07/15/2012 01:31 PM
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I'm tired of the incremental tyranny. Bring on the full scale tyranny. This way, maybe people will finally see the government and business elites for what they really are...authoritarian assholes. Either people will finally wake up and take action or we'll become true slaves.
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07/15/2012 01:43 PM
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there is no right to free speech on private property
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I'm tired of the incremental tyranny. Bring on the full scale tyranny. This way, maybe people will finally see the government and business elites for what they really are...authoritarian assholes. Either people will finally wake up and take action or we'll become true slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


the boiling frogs theory seems to be working well, though.
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07/15/2012 01:48 PM
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I would like to take this time to remind the citizens of the USA that WE THE PEOPLE are the GOVERNMENT. Please try to refrain from speaking about the GOVERNMENT as if it is something outside of ourselves because this only reinforces the schizophrenic condition of our society.

It is the MEGA CORPORATIONS and SPONSORED INTERESTS who have SEIZED control of our government away from the PEOPLE who are the rightful seat of authority. All we have to do is simply start taking back what belongs to us and quit playing the POLITICAL GAMES that only serve to undermine our TRUE POWER.
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07/15/2012 01:49 PM
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I don't have anything to hide. If they wanna listen in to how I took a dump on some chicks chest last night, so be it.
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there is no right to free speech on private property
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Well said...that is why...in my humble opinion...the clever guys out there will create a "free" internet. They can sell advertising and such to cover costs but they should make it 100% free speech and free content. I remember when the "internet" first came into it's own...back in the middle 90's. It was awesome back then. You could find just about anything for "free"...now...some fuck is always looking to make a dollar...this needs to be side-stepped by a clever individual...they WILL make money, but not this way.
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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just wait for net neutrality to kick in where the nets gonna be tiered into pricing controls - sorta like cabletv packages


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Stand together...



That's when we all win
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just wait for net neutrality to kick in where the nets gonna be tiered into pricing controls - sorta like cabletv packages


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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


if you are that worried about it. then maybe its time to give up technology, internet, stupid phones(lets face it they're not that smart), keeping up with movies and TV shows.

this way you do not feed them.
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just wait for net neutrality to kick in where the nets gonna be tiered into pricing controls - sorta like cabletv packages


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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


if you are that worried about it. then maybe its time to give up technology, internet, stupid phones(lets face it they're not that smart), keeping up with movies and TV shows.

this way you do not feed them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


i dont do tv....so i could give a fuck.

internets a diff story - but i can afford it.
its a matter of - do i want to? we shall see.
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07/15/2012 02:18 PM
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I'm getting sick of these controlling bastards !!! redface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19804382


Let them do their job, it's what they do and always have been doing. The communism was their plan, but they lost it to some leaders that had bigger balls than those jewish Elite who came up with the idea.
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07/15/2012 02:19 PM
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I'm only free to be a queer or hate America.


Everything else seems pretty illegal without a permit from the regime.

Last Edited by LunaticFringe on 07/15/2012 02:21 PM
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just wait for net neutrality to kick in where the nets gonna be tiered into pricing controls - sorta like cabletv packages


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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


if you are that worried about it. then maybe its time to give up technology, internet, stupid phones(lets face it they're not that smart), keeping up with movies and TV shows.

this way you do not feed them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14332235


i dont do tv....so i could give a fuck.

internets a diff story - but i can afford it.
its a matter of - do i want to? we shall see.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


a crack addict finds a way to get crack too.
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I'm not exactly sure what to call what we are becoming...a corporatocracy?...a Plutocracy? A Oligarchy?
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Neo-feudalism - feudalism with a techno bent.
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and we all just sit back and take it in the ass

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