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Evidence of Jesus, Heaven, and Hell, as described in the Bible.

 
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Interesting stuff. Almost believable even. I'm no expert but I have read the bible from genesis to revelations and studied it off and on for many years. My biggest problem with these near death experience stories is that no where in the bible does it say that Satan rules over hell, in fact it says that its a place of torment for him.

(Revelations ch. 20 verse 10-And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)

The bible also states that Satan was hurled to earth, it states that he's the ruler of this world-John 16:11 and the god of this world-2 Corinthians 4:4 nothing stating he rules hell. Since there are several texts claiming Satan will be tormented in hell and none stating he rules it I have to conclude that any NDE stating the person was tortured in any way or witnessed others being tortured to be FALSE. No one knows what tricks the mind plays on us when the brain is deprived of oxygen, most likely whatever beliefs we held in life will manifest. Even atheists know of hell and hope it doesn't really exist. Anyway, just my 2 cents
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"(Revelations ch. 20 verse 10-And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)"

The occurs after Judgement day, when he'll be thrown in the lake of fire. So it does make sense.
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This is an excellent testimony, especially considering he was an atheist prior to the near death experience. So the experience, wasn't based on former beliefs. In addition, for many accounts, you have people who can provide verifiable information. For example, one lady has an near death experience. She floated up, and above the roof of a hospital. She then see's a single shoe (she also later saw hell). After the near death experience. She was able later to confirm that the single shoe, that she saw in the NDE, was indeed actually there at the top of the hospital roof (there are many more examples like this).
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That's called DMT. Your body releases a lot of it while you are sleeping, and before you die.
You can also manufacture DMT pretty easily, from certain kinds of tree bark and grass, and recreate these "near death experiences"
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So DMT, allows you to see verifiable information?
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There is no verifiable information in these altered states.
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With pure DMT experiences where people get high maybe, but I read enough accounts of NDE, to know these people are indeed coming across verifiable information: very detailed and specific information that wasn't known to them, at the time of the NDE, but which was later discovered to be true after the experience.
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an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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^ exactly.
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an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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^ exactly.
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I keep getting this deep fear, and deep sense of disbelief, that God, would allow an eternal place of excruciating torment for an eternity. But when I weigh in all evidence, that both support and deny the existence of hell, there's much stronger weight and support to suggest that hell is indeed very real.

If any point you feel this is real. Please don't wait, repent, get saved, and live a life that's pleasing to one true God Almighty.
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Testimony of hell. Please continue to research, and never stop learning. If at any point you feel this is real. Please repent, and get saved. We all have a limited time, to do this.
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A beautiful testimony of heaven.

If you're reading this, rejoice, it's not too late! You still have time, to repent, and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and only Savior.
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That's called DMT. Your body releases a lot of it while you are sleeping, and before you die.
You can also manufacture DMT pretty easily, from certain kinds of tree bark and grass, and recreate these "near death experiences"
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So DMT, allows you to see verifiable information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20035522


There is no verifiable information in these altered states.
 Quoting: jadksn 18789637


With pure DMT experiences where people get high maybe, but I read enough accounts of NDE, to know these people are indeed coming across verifiable information: very detailed and specific information that wasn't known to them, at the time of the NDE, but which was later discovered to be true after the experience.
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I've never heard of NDE. I just find it very interesting that DMT is found in every living organism on the planet, and some suggest that the chemical makes it's home in the pineal gland. It's not some man-made chemical like LSD, and the experience is very real and life changing.
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an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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^ exactly.
 Quoting: Haelo


God tells us in the Bible when and what hell is.. it is not for all eternity. Hell fire is at the end of the world as earth is burned up as God creates a new earth where his people will live forever as all sin burned up gone forever.


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Near-death experiences are tricks of the mind triggered by an overload of carbon dioxide in the bloodstream, a new study suggests.

Many people who have recovered from life-threatening injuries have said they experienced their lives flashing before their eyes, saw bright lights, left their bodies, or encountered angels or dead loved ones.

In the new study, researchers investigated whether different levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide—the main blood gases—play a role in the mysterious phenomenon.

Read on:

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Oh dear, it's science, so it must be fake ... rather believe a vid someone posted on YouTube!
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"You're the gutsy one who talks about negative near-death experiences. Keep doing it. Don't stop." I was so startled by her comment, I momentarily slowed my pace and yelled back, "Who are you? What do you mean by that?" Her answer surprised me. "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean people who wind up in hell!"

- P.M.H.Atwater, L.H.D., Ph.D - (92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3)
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Re: Evidence of Jesus, Heaven, and Hell, as described in the Bible.
an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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Not so. Our loving Father gave man many choices, he destroyed the world more then once..hoping that humanity be true to His commands. Because of His love he sent Jesus to suffer death, so that His children could be redeemed. God will NEVER chance the infiltration of evil within His paradise. He is omniscient and well aware of that effect per Lucifer and those that followed and follow him. His eternal judgement is just and righteous...He is God, His patience has worn thin and rightly so. He's been generous and humble enough, this time there will be no chance to redeem oneself post mortal death. How many other false deities would attempt salvation for their flock? Answer: none.
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so what happens to people born before jesus? they go to hell automatically? or babies/kids who dies at a young age?

if god is all knowing than he knew before letting a certain soul live on earth that he will be doomed to hell.. maybe he was born in another culture .. that didn't know who jesus was etc so you say god let him be born with the foreknoweledge that he will end up in hell? what an asshole.. wouldn't it be better that he did not let him be born at all? becuz he didn't choose to be born.. he didn't have freewill. life just happened to him..

its really sick and twisted that god gives everyone 1 chance to figure it out and if don't u will burn forever..

infact god created satan, he created hell. and it also says in the bible that he creates evil. So tell me how exactly does he love us cuz i don't get it..
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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exactly and how can a soul feel pain?.. ur body feels pain cuz of the electrical signals that gets interpreted by ur brain..
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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exactly and how can a soul feel pain?.. ur body feels pain cuz of the electrical signals that gets interpreted by ur brain..
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What if somebody was born totally paralyzed.. can they still feel pain in hell?
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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Not sure how either. But a former atheist and college professor, who had an NDE, is also stating the beings are ripping into his spirit / soul body:

A mistake we're making, since we don't have a point of reference, is assuming the soul / spirit body will be etheral, and similar to how we operate in a dream.
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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Not sure how either. But a former atheist and college professor, who had an NDE, is also stating the beings are ripping into his spirit / soul body:

A mistake we're making, since we don't have a point of reference, is assuming the soul / spirit body will be etheral, and similar to how we operate in a dream.
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and its funny how most of them claim to be atheist before the exp.. hmm
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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Not sure how either. But a former atheist and college professor, who had an NDE, is also stating the beings are ripping into his spirit / soul body:

A mistake we're making, since we don't have a point of reference, is assuming the soul / spirit body will be etheral, and similar to how we operate in a dream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20380052


and its funny how most of them claim to be atheist before the exp.. hmm
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That's not the case. I like the atheist's testomonies, since many will argue the NDE is based on former beliefs, or preconceived notions of an afterlife. This argument fails, with atheists, since they of course don't believe in hell, heaven, Jesus, etc. Here's a non-atheist, and a Christian pastor's NDE testimony, of hell:


There's actually one a buddhist as well. After his near death experience, and after witnessing hell, and seeing other buddhist monks in hellfire, he became a christian.
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Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning.

Didn't know your soul had flesh when you're dead....

cool2
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Not sure how either. But a former atheist and college professor, who had an NDE, is also stating the beings are ripping into his spirit / soul body:

A mistake we're making, since we don't have a point of reference, is assuming the soul / spirit body will be etheral, and similar to how we operate in a dream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20380052


and its funny how most of them claim to be atheist before the exp.. hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16504800


That's not the case. I like the atheist's testomonies, since many will argue the NDE is based on former beliefs, or preconceived notions of an afterlife. This argument fails, with atheists, since they of course don't believe in hell, heaven, Jesus, etc. Here's a non-atheist, and a Christian pastor's NDE testimony, of hell:


There's actually one a buddhist as well. After his near death experience, and after witnessing hell, and seeing other buddhist monks in hellfire, he became a christian.
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He said that his eyes were burning and describing physical bodies????
Typical Christian programming.

For the record, many whom have truly been out of body understand this is not true.
There is NOTHING physical upon death, our physically appearance changes through life and IS NOT OUR IDENTITY.

Our identity is our essence, not this physical body.
Our soul is us, not these bodies.. not these physical forms.
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"Each time he regained heartbeat and respiration, the patient screamed, "I am in hell!" He was terrified and pleaded with me to help him. I was scared to death...Then I noticed a genuinely alarmed look on his face. He had a terrified look worse than the expression seen in death! This patient had a grotesque grimace expressing sheer horror! His pupils were dilated, and he was perspiring and trembling - he looked as if his hair was "on end."

- Dr. Maurice Rawlings Specialist on Internal Medicine
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an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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Your time in the hellfire is determined by the amount of evil/impurities you've accumulated. It's a purification process on a divine scale. Evil cannot be allowed to transmigrate to paradise, therefore all souls must go through this purification process.
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there is no heaven and hell. when you die your thoughts create your after life. if you were good you will see good thoughts if u were bad u will see bad thoughts. there is no God. No Devil.
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Are you willing to bet your soul on that idea?

May God guide you to the truth.
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Near-death experiences are tricks of the mind triggered by an overload of carbon dioxide in the bloodstream, a new study suggests.

Many people who have recovered from life-threatening injuries have said they experienced their lives flashing before their eyes, saw bright lights, left their bodies, or encountered angels or dead loved ones.

In the new study, researchers investigated whether different levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide—the main blood gases—play a role in the mysterious phenomenon.

Read on:

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Oh dear, it's science, so it must be fake ... rather believe a vid someone posted on YouTube!
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Wrong. How does this scientific explanation account for people who were born blind, who had NDEs, and were able to describe in vivid detail what they have SEEN during their experience?

I suggest reading the book "Evidence of the Afterlife" for more compelling evidence that supports NDEs.
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an all knowing and all loving god wouldn't have created the world if he knew beforehand that billions of people would be left to suffer in hell for all eternity.
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you're limited human understanding is why so many like you hate God.
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Man attempts suicide. Has a near death experience. Goes to hell. Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning. After the NDE, returns to church regularly.

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NDErs receive feedback of their own beliefs.
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Yes, there are indeed past life stories. I'm still looking into this. Here's the trap, that most people will now fall into, that I will elaborate upon, in a future post. Let me first ask, what do you know about angels?
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A few months ago, before waking up, I got stuck into Hypnopompic state (a trance-like state between sleep and awake).
Gregorian Chant sounded in the backround, and (I don't know who "it" was) a male echoy voice told me that "angels" and "demons" were "support REPS". I took that as a pun for REPTILIANS.
Then "I" (my voice sounded different) replied: "hey can you turn on the MUTE? If I keep hearing voices like that when I wake up I'm going to go insane".
I heard "OK". Voices were off, and I woke up.

Extremely weird experience!...
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(BTW I felt sorta uneasy)
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Well all i can say is if i had a near death experience and had all that happen to me i would remember it, something that dramatic you would never forget. This guy is reading this from notes probably written by someone else, this may be a plan of the church to get more ppl in for more money!!
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Jesus do allot to wake the people up to see what He planned for His people, please take the time to look at all this testimonies of Heaven and Hell. Everybody came back with the same message. If they all come back with the same message then we know that this is the real word of Jesus. There will be a Rapture and Jesus said that He go to prepare a mansion for you.
But He also showed many people, that some of these Houses will be empty because they did not believe Jesus. People of God if you look at this testimonies that will really open Heaven Hell and the Bible to you. To do this, can save your life.
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The Rapture thing looks like mass Alien Abduction propaganda to me.
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My father died on the operating table, and then was brought back to life at the last minute. Guess what: he's still an atheist!
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Mine too...didn't last too long after but he didn't change his mind and he dies as I will. Atheist!
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Man attempts suicide. Has a near death experience. Goes to hell. Felt creatures ripping into him, and his flesh burning. After the NDE, returns to church regularly.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19823904


Just another stupid moron..there are so many braindead religitards walking the earth that it's like the zombie apocalypse has always been here.

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