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i missed church a few times and this is what happens when i go back

 
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Which god, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Thor, Loki, Zeus? Be specific man!
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everyone has a choice. the people doing the screaming i imagine to be full of hate. being in a state of love and gratitude is paramount to a christian, i am not going to start to imagine what God has in mind because im not God. but i have a choice to believe in the bible and claim that Jesus died for my sins that is what i am going to do. there is yet anyone that i know of to take responsibility for non believers.
 Quoting: Doomcookie


THINK about what you are beleiving..which is THIS...

God is omnipotent..all knowing and all seeing. He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..NO rehab..and NO WAY OUT..a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born itno a world where life generally sux..followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever. He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..to save us from HIMSELF really..after all..HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..PLUS..he created every torture device there..HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..and all those there DESERVE it..for being born HUMAN..in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..sorry..but you have to BURN.

Also..if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..YOU WILL BURN as well..for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..wrong parents..and wrong religion..even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..cause if he did NOT choose..and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.
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Sigh - get your facts straight. Look in the Bible and find out just how many times Jesus ever speaks about Hell. Hell is not there. It is a pit of fire in revelations reserved for the devil and his like, and the few people that are so evil that even when in the face of God refuse to accept Him as being real.
I do so get tired of the athiests clinging to the fact that religion is a crock because of hell. Hell is not what you think it is. Pop culture has ruined your views.
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true. people want to believe that hell is filled with innocent but its not like that.
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It is not filled with anyone..cause its NOT real and CATHOLIC MYTH..who stole it from the GREEKS myths..who in turn stole it from the EGYPTIANS.
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THINK about what you are beleiving..which is THIS...

God is omnipotent..all knowing and all seeing. He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..NO rehab..and NO WAY OUT..a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born itno a world where life generally sux..followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever. He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..to save us from HIMSELF really..after all..HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..PLUS..he created every torture device there..HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..and all those there DESERVE it..for being born HUMAN..in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..sorry..but you have to BURN.

Also..if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..YOU WILL BURN as well..for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..wrong parents..and wrong religion..even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..cause if he did NOT choose..and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16547947


Sigh - get your facts straight. Look in the Bible and find out just how many times Jesus ever speaks about Hell. Hell is not there. It is a pit of fire in revelations reserved for the devil and his like, and the few people that are so evil that even when in the face of God refuse to accept Him as being real.
I do so get tired of the athiests clinging to the fact that religion is a crock because of hell. Hell is not what you think it is. Pop culture has ruined your views.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050


true. people want to believe that hell is filled with innocent but its not like that.
 Quoting: Doomcookie


It is not filled with anyone..cause its NOT real and CATHOLIC MYTH..who stole it from the GREEKS myths..who in turn stole it from the EGYPTIANS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19326992


your gonna believe something from what? zeitgest? over the Bible? hell is real people have seen it..
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Sigh - get your facts straight. Look in the Bible and find out just how many times Jesus ever speaks about Hell. Hell is not there. It is a pit of fire in revelations reserved for the devil and his like, and the few people that are so evil that even when in the face of God refuse to accept Him as being real.
I do so get tired of the athiests clinging to the fact that religion is a crock because of hell. Hell is not what you think it is. Pop culture has ruined your views.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050


true. people want to believe that hell is filled with innocent but its not like that.
 Quoting: Doomcookie


It is not filled with anyone..cause its NOT real and CATHOLIC MYTH..who stole it from the GREEKS myths..who in turn stole it from the EGYPTIANS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19326992


your gonna believe something from what? zeitgest? over the Bible? hell is real people have seen it..
 Quoting: Doomcookie


How do you know those people were NOT decieved into beleiving a LIE?

For a start all those NDE's described a TOTALLY different version of hell OR heaven..NO TWO agreed on exactly what it was they saw.

Secondly you WILLINGLY IGNORE all the POSITIVE Ndes where they didnt see hell at all..convenient to IGNORE all those one eh?

Thirdly I have never even seen that zeitgeist movie and have no intention of doing so..I reach my conclusions through my OWN research of the original languages of the bible.

I was rasied a chriatian and used to beleieve in hell too for the same reason YOU do..until I READ the bible and studied it DEEPLY..and there..I found the TRUTH..not in some youtubes..or in any movie..or in any pastor or church..but in the book itself.

Most christians done even KNOW whats in their bible..they would rather beleive OTHERS MENS books..and youtube vids.
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Sigh - get your facts straight. Look in the Bible and find out just how many times Jesus ever speaks about Hell. Hell is not there. It is a pit of fire in revelations reserved for the devil and his like, and the few people that are so evil that even when in the face of God refuse to accept Him as being real.
I do so get tired of the athiests clinging to the fact that religion is a crock because of hell. Hell is not what you think it is. Pop culture has ruined your views.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050


true. people want to believe that hell is filled with innocent but its not like that.
 Quoting: Doomcookie


It is not filled with anyone..cause its NOT real and CATHOLIC MYTH..who stole it from the GREEKS myths..who in turn stole it from the EGYPTIANS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19326992


your gonna believe something from what? zeitgest? over the Bible? hell is real people have seen it..
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I died and went to Heaven. I was given the option to come back or stay there. There was no hell, except getting lost in ego and commiting acts like revenge, lashing out in hate, being selfish and greedy.

Beleive me or not, doesn't matter.

Hell is experiencing the guilt from our wrongful actions. We are our only judge.
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Re: i missed church a few times and this is what happens when i go back
Which god, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Thor, Loki, Zeus? Be specific man!
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LOL Those are all man made names given to him by men.

You left out Universe, The Field, The Source, The Force, God, Big Guy in the Sky, Lord.

All the same and people want to fight about it. More Human Folly as Carlos Castenada would call it.
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Re: i missed church a few times and this is what happens when i go back
When you didn't go to church, did you forget about God? or have you become more spiritually enlightened?

I personally rarely go to church but am a firm and strong believer in God.

Most religions these days are run by crooks and thieves, you do not need to go to a church to have be loved by God.


What you do is between you and God - he knows your heart. No man, just God. Your relationship is with God, not man.




Having said all of that, church is not a 'bad' thing but I firmly believe it is not something we explicitly need in our walk through this world - sometimes it is nice to have the comfort of like minded people when sorrows come.

May the creator guide you to your answer.
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I think the point OP is trying to make is that when they stopped going to church for a bit others were trying to make them feel guilty and fearful..that's how they roll.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Re: i missed church a few times and this is what happens when i go back
What about the early church fathers they claimed salvation was NOT found outside of the "church"
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true. people want to believe that hell is filled with innocent but its not like that.
 Quoting: Doomcookie


It is not filled with anyone..cause its NOT real and CATHOLIC MYTH..who stole it from the GREEKS myths..who in turn stole it from the EGYPTIANS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19326992


your gonna believe something from what? zeitgest? over the Bible? hell is real people have seen it..
 Quoting: Doomcookie


How do you know those people were NOT decieved into beleiving a LIE?

For a start all those NDE's described a TOTALLY different version of hell OR heaven..NO TWO agreed on exactly what it was they saw.

Secondly you WILLINGLY IGNORE all the POSITIVE Ndes where they didnt see hell at all..convenient to IGNORE all those one eh?

Thirdly I have never even seen that zeitgeist movie and have no intention of doing so..I reach my conclusions through my OWN research of the original languages of the bible.

I was rasied a chriatian and used to beleieve in hell too for the same reason YOU do..until I READ the bible and studied it DEEPLY..and there..I found the TRUTH..not in some youtubes..or in any movie..or in any pastor or church..but in the book itself.

Most christians done even KNOW whats in their bible..they would rather beleive OTHERS MENS books..and youtube vids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17651486


i think hell is personal and i dont believe that every single person is going. i am currently reading the Bible and cant
imagine what TRUTH you read IN THE BIBLE that convinced you that hell is a myth.

Matthew 25:41 (ESV)
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.




Revelation 1:18 and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

Mark 9:43 (ESV)
43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.


Luke 10:15 (ESV)
15 And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down to Hades. peace
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your church is the people, not the building.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Church is FULL of people who will try to CONTROL YOU. They are much more focused on EXAMINING YOU TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK YOU ARE DOING WRONG and then trying to tell you all about how bad you are, rather than trying to examine themselves. It's like they didn't listen to Jesus at all.


1 Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, 2 for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. 3 Why, then, do you look at the speck in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? 4 How dare you say to your brother,
Please, let me take that speck out of your eye, when you have a log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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Tell them to pack sand. They are probably just running low on funds and need more "donations"
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Not everybody's going to be like that, you can make other friends at church

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