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The age of consent in many states of the USA was just TEN by the year 1885.

 
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Interesting. So I went and took a look at Brazil TODAY. Here is a bit of what I found:



Recent reliable estimates on the total number of prostitutes are not available. In the late 1990s, the International Encyclopedia of Sexuality quoted police estimates putting the total number of prostitutes in Brazil at about 1,000,000.[3]

The Federal Police estimates that upward of 250,000 children are involved in prostitution.[4] According to the recently released Protection Project report, various official sources agree that from 250,000 to 500,000 children live as child prostitutes. Other sources in Brazil put the number at up to 2,000,000 children.[5]




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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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So then just for the heck of it I went to look at S. America age of consent today lol. Looks like Colonial America.

Here is the bit about Brazil, TONS more at the link:


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In Brazil, the age of consent is 14, regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation, with a judicial precedent showing that a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 12 and 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are 5 years older or less is legal, although not legally formalized




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OP, it is usually best to remove yourself from glass houses BEFORE you start to throw stones.
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07/15/2012 09:39 PM
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OP I understand and agree but realize the average life exptancy was 40 in the 1880’s.

This means If you had a child at the age of 22 you would not see you childs 18th birthday on average.
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"Average life expectancy" includes infant/childhood mortality, which was/is extremely high in societies without modern medicine, such as the 1880s.

Average age of death *for people who reached adulthood* was not 40. The lifespan of a human who reached adulthood in the 1880s was about the same as it is today.
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OP I understand and agree but realize the average life exptancy was 40 in the 1880’s.

This means If you had a child at the age of 22 you would not see you childs 18th birthday on average.
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"Average life expectancy" includes infant/childhood mortality, and women who died in childbirth, which was/is extremely high in societies without modern medicine, such as the 1880s.

Average age of death *for people who reached adulthood* was not 40. Assuming you could reach adulthood (and not die in childbirth) you could expect to live about as long as people live now without medical intervention (into your 80s or so).
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OP I understand and agree but realize the average life exptancy was 40 in the 1880’s.

This means If you had a child at the age of 22 you would not see you childs 18th birthday on average.
 Quoting: Chrit


"Average life expectancy" includes infant/childhood mortality, and women who died in childbirth, which was/is extremely high in societies without modern medicine, such as the 1880s.

Average age of death *for people who reached adulthood* was not 40. Assuming you could reach adulthood (and not die in childbirth) you could expect to live about as long as people live now without medical intervention (into your 80s or so).
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In a way your are correct, my grandmother was one of 18 if I rememebr right. Only 6 made it past the age of 18. Those 6 all made it in to their 80's but you still married out at a very young age.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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Oh and my grandmother was with her husband from the age of 13 through 96.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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Its a feminist law. The problem should be covered already under child protection laws.
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07/15/2012 10:31 PM
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Re: The age of consent in many states of the USA was just TEN by the year 1885.
So then just for the heck of it I went to look at S. America age of consent today lol. Looks like Colonial America.

Here is the bit about Brazil, TONS more at the link:


Brazil

In Brazil, the age of consent is 14, regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation, with a judicial precedent showing that a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 12 and 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are 5 years older or less is legal, although not legally formalized




[link to en.wikipedia.org]




OP, it is usually best to remove yourself from glass houses BEFORE you start to throw stones.
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Do you really want to compare 10 YEAR OLD GIRLS to 14 YEAR OLD GIRLS?

And you can still be arrested in Brazil for having sex with a 14 to 17 year old girl, if you pay for it or offer any kind of material compensation (prostitution). Prostitution of minors is a crime.
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Re: The age of consent in many states of the USA was just TEN by the year 1885.
Interesting. So I went and took a look at Brazil TODAY. Here is a bit of what I found:



Recent reliable estimates on the total number of prostitutes are not available. In the late 1990s, the International Encyclopedia of Sexuality quoted police estimates putting the total number of prostitutes in Brazil at about 1,000,000.[3]

The Federal Police estimates that upward of 250,000 children are involved in prostitution.[4] According to the recently released Protection Project report, various official sources agree that from 250,000 to 500,000 children live as child prostitutes. Other sources in Brazil put the number at up to 2,000,000 children.[5]




There is much more here:


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19774784


So then just for the heck of it I went to look at S. America age of consent today lol. Looks like Colonial America.

Here is the bit about Brazil, TONS more at the link:


Brazil

In Brazil, the age of consent is 14, regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation, with a judicial precedent showing that a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 12 and 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are 5 years older or less is legal, although not legally formalized




[link to en.wikipedia.org]




OP, it is usually best to remove yourself from glass houses BEFORE you start to throw stones.
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10/06/2012 07:56 PM
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Yup. Around 10 (or more usually, 12) is when puberty starts -- NATURE'S age of consent. The idea of the age of consent being 18 is a purely modern creation, based on the fiction that people between the age of puberty and 18 are not sexual.
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You hear Americans speak in disgust of Prophet Muhommed, yet praise the founding fathers who themselves were child molesters, not to mention owned slaves. HYPOCRITES to the core.
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Couldn't have said it any better. Not to mention, they STOLE this land from the Native American tribes, gave them diseases, created a holiday for MURDERING these people: thanksgiving.

Sick, psychopaths.

Hab 2:12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!
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10/06/2012 08:16 PM
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What happens if the Earth orbits the Sun faster? You still gonna say 18 is a good age for consent, when in reality they are closer to 10?

Don't get me wrong, a girl needs to stay untouched for as long as possible so she can grow into a clean, beautiful woman.

But to assign a hardline number across everyone is stupid. Some are ready at 16, some are ready at 24, some are ready at 7 (if you go to Penn State)...lol
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What I know for sure is that a girl at the age of 13 is SURELY not "ready" to be sexually abused by adult men...
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sat on a grand jury recently, several girls around 13 testified to underage sex with some perverts at the local gym.

all of them said it was what they wanted. and that the only reason they were testifying is the DA's office had basically forced them to.

You think you know what is best for everyone. What are you a politician?
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Marriage is the way of the Lord. Anyone who strays from it is unforgiven. The only legal sex is married sex.Sex is an unforgivable sin.It is blasphemy against the Law of God , Thus its blasphemy against God.

The only one that can grant a marriage is the Lamb of God , aka Lord.No Church minister or other wisemen can do so.

Dont you people understand the word of God?
God said the Taking of a virgin by a man makes the cause of natural marriage. Thus a man must take a virgin forcefully.
This saves the woman's soul by natural marriage.

A woman can not give up her virginity willingly or she is doomed to hell.A man is doomed to hell anyway. for laying with his own mother at birth.

For God is a jealous God.

And you suckers believe a church ,or synagogues of the devil.

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Some girls reach puberty by 11 or 12 these days.

How can you ARGUE WITH NATURE?

Sorry. Sucks for you. But it's reality. Age of consent throughout history has always been lower than it's set in the U.S. We're awfully puritan about it here.

I'm not saying a girl that young should get pregnant -- I don't think any woman should have children and if she does, she should have ONE child after being married for at least two or three years. Stability -- something most of these unwed mothers never considered.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Totally agree - these days kids start much earlier with this type of stuff, because it's also being pushed on them by their "idols".

Back then, when life expectancy wasn't nearly what we have now, people died in their 30's or 40's, it was important and normal for them to marry and have children at 13-15, a girl menstruating the first time meant she was ready to have a child (marriage happened even before then, much earlier)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19693861


Touchy subject.

This is probably the most pertinent post. Things were very different at that time. Families and communities were much more close knit units than they are today and life expectancy was a major issue.

OP, have you ever been to a cemetery from that time? It is eye opening, from a historical standpoint.

The industrial age that followed changed that. You can see the same dynamic in today's world with the technological age.

Attempting to apply today's social values to people at various times and cultures in history is a losing proposition. They were working within their limitations, to put it simply.

Does that make okay in today's society? No, life expectancy is no longer the dominant issue.
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Marriage is the way of the Lord. Anyone who strays from it is unforgiven. The only legal sex is married sex.Sex is an unforgivable sin.It is blasphemy against the Law of God , Thus its blasphemy against God.

The only one that can grant a marriage is the Lamb of God , aka Lord.No Church minister or other wisemen can do so.

Dont you people understand the word of God?
God said the Taking of a virgin by a man makes the cause of natural marriage. Thus a man must take a virgin forcefully.
This saves the woman's soul by natural marriage.

A woman can not give up her virginity willingly or she is doomed to hell.A man is doomed to hell anyway. for laying with his own mother at birth.

For God is a jealous God.

And you suckers believe a church ,or synagogues of the devil.
 Quoting: TSWB21


Jesus has the power to forgive every sin .In God's eye sin is sin no sin is more horrible than the other in God's eyes
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Re: The age of consent in many states of the USA was just TEN by the year 1885.
Marriage is the way of the Lord. Anyone who strays from it is unforgiven. The only legal sex is married sex.Sex is an unforgivable sin.It is blasphemy against the Law of God , Thus its blasphemy against God.

The only one that can grant a marriage is the Lamb of God , aka Lord.No Church minister or other wisemen can do so.

Dont you people understand the word of God?
God said the Taking of a virgin by a man makes the cause of natural marriage. Thus a man must take a virgin forcefully.
This saves the woman's soul by natural marriage.

A woman can not give up her virginity willingly or she is doomed to hell.A man is doomed to hell anyway. for laying with his own mother at birth.

For God is a jealous God.

And you suckers believe a church ,or synagogues of the devil.
 Quoting: TSWB21


Jesus has the power to forgive every sin .In God's eye sin is sin no sin is more horrible than the other in God's eyes
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Yes i know what the Beast, and false prophet Tells you...

I knew the point would be lost before i posted it.
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10/06/2012 10:27 PM
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By 1885, 10 year old girls were raped in many American states, and forced to get married by adult men.

Disgusting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19813237


That's because America was run by Muslims back then.

it's true. Really.
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No. It was run by Southern Baptists.
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Please tell me you really aren't that stupid?

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