You didn't build your buisness, someone else did it for you...

Does anyone know what it takes to get a business going before those customers pay for services and product?!

It takes some major determination and focus..

Plus--there is so much red tape and steps to become a business and paying taxes isn't something to brag about. lol

So what was his purpose for saying this? What is he saying? Business doesn't pay enough taxes? Just more leftist/marxist class warfare dribble?

Apples and oranges. They are called customers. They do not show up before you open your doors.

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Opening the doors is not the end of building a business. Building a business is taking the concept and improving upon it.

A steady rise in your P & L is the actual building of a business.

That has nothing to do with building the business. Maybe sustaining, but not building. Plus as a business owner, we supply the people with a good or service they want or need. So it's not like people are donating their money.

Okay, I'm gonna go back and read the thread but let me just chime in to say fuck you so much, Barry. So very much. You're an idiot with no clue about the real world. I'm a small business owner, and everyone I've talked to today who is ALSO a small business owner is royally, royally pissed over this one.

Exactly! Just because I have a paid account doesn't mean I helped Trin build his business

The push for big government...

Exactly. It's always a moving target. Ask the guys at Circuit City, the guy who repaired typewriters, etc.

I've noticed all of the business owners I know (including myself) are very pissed as well.

This is fucking rubbish!

I'm sorry you cannot comprehend what the basic concept of building a business is.

I'm normally neutral on Obama but even that stung.

(Yes, I am neutral on Obama most of the time. Also Mitt. Why? Because they seem to be the same president in two different colors. Mitt wants to disassemble obamacare (yay!) but he also wants to create jobs (slavery) by having us build a big ass oil pipeline to make his big oil donors richer. Meanwhile Obama hasn't done shit, Mitt won't do shit, the country is getting worse. Education is down the toilet so that even if there was some young buck out there who COULD make a difference, he wouldn't have the reading comprehension to fill out the fucking form to start running.)

This country sucks. I used to love it. I think most of us that remember pre-9/11 also didn't think it was so bad, saw the signs, but it wasn't bad yet.

I think we could be a great country again... but Jesus fucking Christ, man... we're in a heap of shit right now.

I'm pro-choice and still think Ron Paul would've been the best president this country has seen in half a century.

Why am I pro-choice? Because no 5 year old child should be forced to carry a baby to term. However, they should be aborted while they look like egg yolks and we should hold off on aborting until we have the technology to detect pregnancy and stop it in it's tracks before that egg yolk becomes a baby.

If no one paid an account would he have a business?

And the more accounts that are paid, does Trin consider himself more successful?

Would he like to build it to 1 trillion paid subscribers and would he then consider that building a sucessful business?

Yes. That's what commerce laws and courts are for.

Do you realize the shit a business owner has to go through before even getting customers?

Try it sometime. I have pride, but it can be a pain in the ass. Owning a business is a lot of work!

Taking offense is always a choice.

Who knows. Business owners can adapt. He could make money many other ways with a website. Advertising and such.

Like I said, just because I pay for his service that he provides, does not mean I helped him build the biz. That's absurd.

I know a few businessmen who would sorely object.I have rebuttal to your comment Obama.

You didn't win the Presidency it was handed to you by the bankers,the liberals out of pity for slavery and blacks because you promised free gas.

LOL, don't feel sorry for me, I'm doing just fine. :)

All those other people who are responsible for my business better get off their butts. There are weeds growing in my row crops, my hay needs baling, and my crops need picking.

I have done it and I could not have built a business without, customers, people who taught me trades, vendors who sold me great equipment, financers who believed in me, yada yada yada.

Yes I busted my ass but I can't build a freaking embroidery machine or a tractor. LOL

Good one!

I made the business plan. I found and paid for the lease. I did the remodeling of the storefront. I bought all the equipment. I worked 7 days a week for ten years (only taking a few days off once for my dad's funeral service). I paid for insurance. I dealt with banks. I paid the taxes. I paid the lease. Who the fuck is this "somebody else" who did more than me for my biz? And since I work with dogs, did they get as many stitches as me over the years? Were they working no matter how they felt physically?

Myself, a partner and THREE employees (NOT 49 employees!) are the only ones I saw in my place working. It wasn't that big, so they couldn't have been hiding.

And then because of a crooked attorney, who disappeared and and an incompetent accountant (who passed away) everything fell apart, for awhile. Where was this "somebody else"?

All I've ever felt was that I was doing was working against the banks and the government. I had two very successful friends advise me to treat the banks like my worst enemy and watch everything they do. That was the best advice I ever got. I (we) caught them in so much crap that would have gone by unnoticed if we didn't.

Brief is right. Small business IS backbone of America. So why has the government, banks and property investors make it so difficult for them to succeed? Hypocrisy in the name of profits for our representatives and those large businesses that support them maybe? Nahh, no way. There all sooo patriotic...

Trin has a service that he provides to us for a small payment. It is his business, not ours. We did not build it, he did. If Oblabla will let him, he will take home the fruits of his labor. Unfortunately, Barry will take a big piece of that pie and "redistribute" to people that do not work for a living.

LOL, I dunno. Ask him. Everyone judges success differently.

no one said it wasn't

That's all bull. I was in poverty as a child. I didn't have any rich family members. No Assets, no trust funds. Never got a business loan.


Please tell me what business you have that you dont have any financial at all. Or no assets.

Please dont says your self employed or a contactor because i will inform you on the tax code and how these the money flows through to the individual. Therefore, by tax laws you are not a "business" to be a business NON-individual tax return on the Form 2106, as well as small businesses with assets under $10 million; or the 1120 for corps.

By hey they big guys will keep telling you that this attack on them is an attack on you.

Again what non-sole proprietor got started without help and i wouldnt get start in how the TAX PAYERS pay for alot of your start-up cost and you amortized them over 180 months. But hey i must be someone with no insights on how the systems works.

OR i could ask how much does you employee make you on average. Because if its not what you pay him. Then you MADE your money FROM him.


ill be waiting

Exactly plus enforcing his communist stance for the benefit of his free-loading supporters.

Class warfare in the extreme. It's like who came first the chicken or the egg only there wouldn't be any taxes to spend to build the roads and so forth if the entrapraneurs hadn't done something to make money for the taxes in the first place. They are also the ones making 70% of the jobs for the people to buy their products.