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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8164313 United States 07/16/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Of more than 38,000 children tested from the Fukushima Prefecture in Japan, 36 percent have abnormal growths – cysts or nodules – on their thyroids only a year after the Fukushima nuclear disaster, as reported by ENENews. The shocking numbers come from the thyroid examination section of the "Sixth Report of Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey," published by Fukushima Radioactive Contamination Symptoms Research (FRCSR) and translated by the blog Fukushima Voice." [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11748204 United States 07/16/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually it says 36% of the children...not births... "Of more than 38,000 children tested from the Fukushima Prefecture in Japan, 36 percent have abnormal growths – cysts or nodules – on their thyroids only a year after the Fukushima nuclear disaster, as reported by ENENews. The shocking numbers come from the thyroid examination section of the "Sixth Report of Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey," published by Fukushima Radioactive Contamination Symptoms Research (FRCSR) and translated by the blog Fukushima Voice." [link to www.businessinsider.com] [/quot Thanks for the correction. That is even worse! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19542924 United Kingdom 07/16/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Related: Evacuee: Fukushima hospital worker says 5 out of 7 babies were born with birth defect, Down’s syndrome, or lost by miscarriage — After this, husband agreed to evacuate [link to enenews.com] |
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FreedomFox User ID: 1293049 United Kingdom 07/16/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how credible is the news source - anyone know? Quoting: FreedomFox This is truly terrible news and should be all over the media channels. What have things come to when this goes unreported to the wider masses. Shameful. Business Insider is VERY credible. CEO is on CNBC often. It is disgusting that the media are keeping it from getting wider coverage. Everyone who cares should be spreading it to all they know though social media channels. People need to wake up to the sorry state of how things are in the world. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11748204 United States 07/16/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how credible is the news source - anyone know? Quoting: FreedomFox This is truly terrible news and should be all over the media channels. What have things come to when this goes unreported to the wider masses. Shameful. Business Insider is VERY credible. CEO is on CNBC often. It is disgusting that the media are keeping it from getting wider coverage. Everyone who cares should be spreading it to all they know though social media channels. People need to wake up to the sorry state of how things are in the world. There's has been a near total news blackout on the topic since they realized what a catastrophe this really is! |
Project_Deimos User ID: 999284 United States 07/16/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Horrible. Japan sustained the equivalent of a limited nuclear war on their soil. It should be treated as such. "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
Robot Emotions User ID: 19407247 United States 07/16/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 2001 study only accounts for nodules 5mm or greater. You can see this if you click thru to the research abstract at [link to docs.google.com (secure)] that is referenced by ENEnews, the source that Business Insider uses. The 2012 study accounts for all nodule sizes, both over and under 5mm. Also, in the intervening decade, ultrasound detection has become more accurate as equipment resolution increased. So the 2001 study cannot be compared on the same playing field as the 2012 study since many nodules may have been missed in 2001. While I'm not saying that there hasn't been an increase in thyroid cysts in Japanese children, just a cursory glance at the cited sources shows that comparing 0.8% to 36% in the case of these two studies is like comparing apples and oranges. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11748204 United States 07/16/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study comparison is flawed. Quoting: Robot Emotions The 2001 study only accounts for nodules 5mm or greater. You can see this if you click thru to the research abstract at [link to docs.google.com (secure)] that is referenced by ENEnews, the source that Business Insider uses. The 2012 study accounts for all nodule sizes, both over and under 5mm. Also, in the intervening decade, ultrasound detection has become more accurate as equipment resolution increased. So the 2001 study cannot be compared on the same playing field as the 2012 study since many nodules may have been missed in 2001. While I'm not saying that there hasn't been an increase in thyroid cysts in Japanese children, just a cursory glance at the cited sources shows that comparing 0.8% to 36% in the case of these two studies is like comparing apples and oranges. Shill Alert! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19542924 United Kingdom 07/16/2012 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study comparison is flawed. Quoting: Robot Emotions The 2001 study only accounts for nodules 5mm or greater. You can see this if you click thru to the research abstract at [link to docs.google.com (secure)] that is referenced by ENEnews, the source that Business Insider uses. The 2012 study accounts for all nodule sizes, both over and under 5mm. Also, in the intervening decade, ultrasound detection has become more accurate as equipment resolution increased. So the 2001 study cannot be compared on the same playing field as the 2012 study since many nodules may have been missed in 2001. While I'm not saying that there hasn't been an increase in thyroid cysts in Japanese children, just a cursory glance at the cited sources shows that comparing 0.8% to 36% in the case of these two studies is like comparing apples and oranges. Shill Alert! Mm, I would be more concerned about the fact that over 1/3 of living breathing children in the area have nodules, not whether a 0.5 here or a 1.5 there might be off a little bit. |
the mighty Atom User ID: 19556852 Japan 07/16/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [...] Fiscal Year 2011 Thyroid Examination Summary (as of the end of March, 2012) [...] breakdown by size of nodules [...] Of 38,114 examined, 37,729 (19,036 boys and 18,693 girls) had no nodules. 201 had nodules graded A2, smaller than 5.0 mm. 184 had nodules graded B, larger than 5.0 mm. [...] Source is the same Blog, looks like a Decimal Error. We need to ask what Size is "normal" and we need more Data to compare the Results! I go with the Doc who done this Research, 'No Problem' but i think also that we need to keep an Eye on it! We should not make the Mistake to cut this Children for a further Research! (that would be the next Step, a Tissue Specimen) G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9117667 United States 07/16/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And that is why they have developed high tech scanners to tell you when something is wrong with a fetus so you don't end up with a "fallujah baby", remember this isn't just the usual radioactive iodine/ceasium nuclear disaster, this is plutonium and teh govt of Japan knew these refugees were being sent directly into the path of the fallout plume. It IS genocide but the whole world is focused on three yahoos in a speedboat in the Syraits of Hormuz. A Chernobyl doctor was amazed that signs of thyroid damage had appeared in as little as six months in Japanese children that took three years to manifest in Chernobyl children. It doesn't look good for the Pacific Northwest if anyone is actually investigating. But now with Obamacare, increased abortion and govt control of data, you will have nothing to worry about, because they won't tell you. |
the mighty Atom User ID: 19556852 Japan 07/16/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study comparison is flawed. Quoting: Robot Emotions The 2001 study only accounts for nodules 5mm or greater. You can see this if you click thru to the research abstract at [link to docs.google.com (secure)] that is referenced by ENEnews, the source that Business Insider uses. The 2012 study accounts for all nodule sizes, both over and under 5mm. Also, in the intervening decade, ultrasound detection has become more accurate as equipment resolution increased. So the 2001 study cannot be compared on the same playing field as the 2012 study since many nodules may have been missed in 2001. While I'm not saying that there hasn't been an increase in thyroid cysts in Japanese children, just a cursory glance at the cited sources shows that comparing 0.8% to 36% in the case of these two studies is like comparing apples and oranges. Shill Alert! Op. is Silly and should not call every Critique "Shillism", we need the Truth but People like the Op. just want Headlines, Yellow Journalism! G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 07/16/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As a U.S. citizen, he served from 1968 to 1970 as a Senior Surgeon of the United States Public Health Service. He was recruited in 1974 by the University of South Alabama to establish one of the first free-standing Departments of Medical Genetics in the nation, at the emerging USA College of Medicine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673 Geneticist charts effects of nuclear disasters [link to blog.al.com] [snip] "It is not the scale of a nuclear accident itself that makes a human disaster it is the response by officials afterward and the public panic produced. The public should not be treated as idiots and told only the 'good half' of the story, as is often done by official agencies. People have the right to know, the need to believe those who are in charge." Wertelecki believes that the often-made comparisons of Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daiichi outcomes with those that followed the atomic bomb explosions at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are wrong. The impact of the bombs was external radiation, which was intense but short-lived, said the physician. The impact of Chernobyl and Fukushima-Daiichi is ongoing and radiation still in the environment is inhaled or swallowed, leading to accumulation in the body. One mushroom eaten in affected areas may deliver as much radiation as hundreds of chest x-rays, he concluded. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11748204 United States 07/16/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As a U.S. citizen, he served from 1968 to 1970 as a Senior Surgeon of the United States Public Health Service. He was recruited in 1974 by the University of South Alabama to establish one of the first free-standing Departments of Medical Genetics in the nation, at the emerging USA College of Medicine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673 Geneticist charts effects of nuclear disasters [link to blog.al.com] [snip] "It is not the scale of a nuclear accident itself that makes a human disaster it is the response by officials afterward and the public panic produced. The public should not be treated as idiots and told only the 'good half' of the story, as is often done by official agencies. People have the right to know, the need to believe those who are in charge." Wertelecki believes that the often-made comparisons of Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daiichi outcomes with those that followed the atomic bomb explosions at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are wrong. The impact of the bombs was external radiation, which was intense but short-lived, said the physician. The impact of Chernobyl and Fukushima-Daiichi is ongoing and radiation still in the environment is inhaled or swallowed, leading to accumulation in the body. One mushroom eaten in affected areas may deliver as much radiation as hundreds of chest x-rays, he concluded. Scary stuff! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 07/16/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [...] Quoting: the mighty Atom Fiscal Year 2011 Thyroid Examination Summary (as of the end of March, 2012) [...] breakdown by size of nodules [...] Of 38,114 examined, 37,729 (19,036 boys and 18,693 girls) had no nodules. 201 had nodules graded A2, smaller than 5.0 mm. 184 had nodules graded B, larger than 5.0 mm. [...] Source is the same Blog, looks like a Decimal Error. We need to ask what Size is "normal" and we need more Data to compare the Results! I go with the Doc who done this Research, 'No Problem' but i think also that we need to keep an Eye on it! We should not make the Mistake to cut this Children for a further Research! (that would be the next Step, a Tissue Specimen) :iraqi: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 07/16/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As a U.S. citizen, he served from 1968 to 1970 as a Senior Surgeon of the United States Public Health Service. He was recruited in 1974 by the University of South Alabama to establish one of the first free-standing Departments of Medical Genetics in the nation, at the emerging USA College of Medicine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673 Geneticist charts effects of nuclear disasters [link to blog.al.com] [snip] "It is not the scale of a nuclear accident itself that makes a human disaster it is the response by officials afterward and the public panic produced. The public should not be treated as idiots and told only the 'good half' of the story, as is often done by official agencies. People have the right to know, the need to believe those who are in charge." Wertelecki believes that the often-made comparisons of Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daiichi outcomes with those that followed the atomic bomb explosions at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are wrong. The impact of the bombs was external radiation, which was intense but short-lived, said the physician. The impact of Chernobyl and Fukushima-Daiichi is ongoing and radiation still in the environment is inhaled or swallowed, leading to accumulation in the body. One mushroom eaten in affected areas may deliver as much radiation as hundreds of chest x-rays, he concluded. Scary stuff! Bio-accumulation.. up the food chain... We are at the top.. for now. ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12860094 United States 07/16/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study comparison is flawed. Quoting: Robot Emotions The 2001 study only accounts for nodules 5mm or greater. You can see this if you click thru to the research abstract at [link to docs.google.com (secure)] that is referenced by ENEnews, the source that Business Insider uses. The 2012 study accounts for all nodule sizes, both over and under 5mm. Also, in the intervening decade, ultrasound detection has become more accurate as equipment resolution increased. So the 2001 study cannot be compared on the same playing field as the 2012 study since many nodules may have been missed in 2001. While I'm not saying that there hasn't been an increase in thyroid cysts in Japanese children, just a cursory glance at the cited sources shows that comparing 0.8% to 36% in the case of these two studies is like comparing apples and oranges. Nodule size is irrelevent. There shouldn't be any nodules. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19859342 United States 07/16/2012 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | er so what ? they shit in their nest , they can live it. we can't afford decent dental coverage for a lot of american children , why should we take in a bunch of expensive to help children from japan ? fuck em , try retroactive abortion you ignorant slant eyed pricks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9403112 Netherlands 07/16/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | er so what ? they shit in their nest , they can live it. we can't afford decent dental coverage for a lot of american children , why should we take in a bunch of expensive to help children from japan ? fuck em , try retroactive abortion you ignorant slant eyed pricks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19859342 Your spirit is part of one of the lowest forms of human consciousness. It is so low you don't even care. |
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stillhere User ID: 16315970 United States 07/16/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The introduction of the letter notes that Australian pediatrician Helen Caldicott said that it's not normal for children to have any thyroid nodules or cysts and that the results mean that the Fukushima children received a very high dose of radiation." Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Suddenly humans are immune to radiation? We are all (and the children) sitting ducks for this kind of problem as our lives are bombarded by ever increasing amounts of radiation. (and risks of worse) (Possibly this is the greatest conspiracy ever)---population reduction leaving only those to breed that are immune to radiation, or eliminate our species all together. I imagine beings from other planets are shaking their heads saying why are they not evacuating the planet??? Seriously---where were the residents of Fukushima or their children going to go? Japan is not known for vast amounts of space and desperate need for children. I love the story of WWII where they shipped their children to the country to keep them safe--can't imagine that happening anywhere today..... Remember New Orleans---different kind of disaster, but one just the same and they weren't allowed to evacuate. It seems to be more the exception than the rule to help (really help) those in need. I don't agree with this, it is sad, sad, sad. I think we need to believe if it happened to us we would be kept safe----but, by whom??? "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
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