Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,548 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 366,401
Pageviews Today: 528,823Threads Today: 159Posts Today: 3,492
04:33 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

why do Americans hate Universal health care?

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17152779
United States
07/17/2012 02:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I think that only tax payers, People who actually lose money to the government on the regular should be able to vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19632764


The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Besides, paying taxes is a choice, but living in society isn't so much.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3798339
United States
07/17/2012 02:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Why are there so many commies in the US.. Health care is not a right.. Its a choice.. You can have it you can get it or dont get it.. Its not the place of the goverment to force health care on people.. I should not be forced to pay for something I will never use.. It should be MY COICE weather or not I want health care.. If I dont want it cool.. I dont need to get it.. If the poor guy down the street wants it COOL for him.. But a Person that does NOT WANT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO GET IT
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17152779
United States
07/17/2012 02:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Why are there so many commies in the US.. Health care is not a right.. Its a choice.. You can have it you can get it or dont get it.. Its not the place of the goverment to force health care on people.. I should not be forced to pay for something I will never use.. It should be MY COICE weather or not I want health care.. If I dont want it cool.. I dont need to get it.. If the poor guy down the street wants it COOL for him.. But a Person that does NOT WANT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO GET IT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


You don't know you will never use it. Accidents happen even to the healthiest people. Health care should be all of society's responsibility.
Evil_Twin
Hellbilly

User ID: 14319721
United States
07/17/2012 02:04 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I've been watching bureaucrats fuck up this nation for over 40 years.

Now, I should be happy to let them control my medical care too?

Fuck

They can't even deliver the mail on time and under budget!
.

Anyone that doesn't love Moms, bacon, and dogs is clearly not human.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19746413
United States
07/17/2012 02:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I think that only tax payers, People who actually lose money to the government on the regular should be able to vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19632764


This is a good beginning. Maybe owning land too. I'd also require that the candidates appear without party labels, so that only informed voters could vote a party line. The "row" on a voting machine should be randomly assigned to various party candidates so that they don't have any positional advantage.
Phoenix 2012

User ID: 14066541
United States
07/17/2012 02:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I've been watching bureaucrats fuck up this nation for over 40 years.

Now, I should be happy to let them control my medical care too?

Fuck

They can't even deliver the mail on time and under budget!
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Truth!..lol
“Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.”
- Bruce Lee
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17152779
United States
07/17/2012 02:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I think that only tax payers, People who actually lose money to the government on the regular should be able to vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19632764


This is a good beginning. Maybe owning land too. I'd also require that the candidates appear without party labels, so that only informed voters could vote a party line. The "row" on a voting machine should be randomly assigned to various party candidates so that they don't have any positional advantage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19746413


Private ownership of land and capital is theft of the commons.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19746413
United States
07/17/2012 02:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Why are there so many commies in the US.. Health care is not a right.. Its a choice.. You can have it you can get it or dont get it.. Its not the place of the goverment to force health care on people.. I should not be forced to pay for something I will never use.. It should be MY COICE weather or not I want health care.. If I dont want it cool.. I dont need to get it.. If the poor guy down the street wants it COOL for him.. But a Person that does NOT WANT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO GET IT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


You don't know you will never use it. Accidents happen even to the healthiest people. Health care should be all of society's responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


What a load of crap. There are no "accidents". There are only screwups, and the individual can take responsibility for that.

I'll never use it because I'll refuse treatment. It's my religion, but not one that obamascare acknowledges.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3798339
United States
07/17/2012 02:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Why are there so many commies in the US.. Health care is not a right.. Its a choice.. You can have it you can get it or dont get it.. Its not the place of the goverment to force health care on people.. I should not be forced to pay for something I will never use.. It should be MY COICE weather or not I want health care.. If I dont want it cool.. I dont need to get it.. If the poor guy down the street wants it COOL for him.. But a Person that does NOT WANT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO GET IT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


You don't know you will never use it. Accidents happen even to the healthiest people. Health care should be all of society's responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Thats funny.. I didnt think we lived in Russia or china.. I didnt think we needed to force things on people.. I thought as an adult I could think for myself.. I guess im just not as retarded as the sheep that want the goverment in their day to day lives.. And if I go to the doc I pay cash.. 3 times all my life i had to go to the doc.. wrote a check.. I dont need it dont want it.. I guess you sheeple will be happy now that you are on the welfare
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17152779
United States
07/17/2012 02:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Why are there so many commies in the US.. Health care is not a right.. Its a choice.. You can have it you can get it or dont get it.. Its not the place of the goverment to force health care on people.. I should not be forced to pay for something I will never use.. It should be MY COICE weather or not I want health care.. If I dont want it cool.. I dont need to get it.. If the poor guy down the street wants it COOL for him.. But a Person that does NOT WANT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO GET IT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


You don't know you will never use it. Accidents happen even to the healthiest people. Health care should be all of society's responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


What a load of crap. There are no "accidents". There are only screwups, and the individual can take responsibility for that.

I'll never use it because I'll refuse treatment. It's my religion, but not one that obamascare acknowledges.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19746413


Well, I guess there's no use arguing with brainwashed cultists. Carry on then.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1238594
United States
07/17/2012 02:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I would favor universal health care. However, Obamacare is universal health insurance. If you can afford the copays, then you can get care. Oh, and you have to buy the insurance as well unless you're very poor.
Piscesian Misesian

User ID: 19031228
United States
07/17/2012 02:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Thread: I'm going to tell you why you should despise the notion of 'universal' healthcare: A response to a terrible post

Thread: I'm going to tell you why you should despise the notion of 'universal' healthcare: A response to a terrible post

Thread: I'm going to tell you why you should despise the notion of 'universal' healthcare: A response to a terrible post

Thread: I'm going to tell you why you should despise the notion of 'universal' healthcare: A response to a terrible post

Thread: I'm going to tell you why you should despise the notion of 'universal' healthcare: A response to a terrible post
Pursue Truth.

This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else.

We do not live in a "big bang" universe.
We do not live in a "created" reality.
Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware.
Space is aware.
I AM aware.
"God", some call it.
Dease

User ID: 1505901
United States
07/17/2012 02:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
...


You don't udnerstand. I WANT to work hard to pay for my helathcare. I WANT control over who my doctors are , and what kind of coverage I have. I don't want Obama telling me what I can and can't have. I will gladly pay for my own plan to make my own decisions.
 Quoting: Dease


You will be able to stay with the same plan if you wish. The new law doesn't force everyone into the same plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Yes, but you will have to pay a penalty fee. This will be put in place to "encourage" people to switch over. As you know, the Obamacare law incldues the implementation of Verichip. I believe it is the mark of the beast, and will soon be required by law.
 Quoting: Dease


I've been trying to get a clear handle on the "implantable medical device" crap aka verichip. There's no way in hell I'll allow that in my body if I can prevent it, and I'll hack it out if it's forced on me. This is grevious bodily harm, like genital mutilation, and it allows us to be tracked, a violation of the 4th amendment. Does anyone know what the true story is regarding this aspect of obamascare? The bastards keep writing nonsense such as "the secretary shall promulgate such regulations as.....", and that kind of BS is impossible to interpret.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19746413


Thread: Verichip : The Mark of the Beast - Here's my thread that I wrote on this. Watch the video. It will send chills down your spine.

I totally agree. They would have to kill me first. Not only is it unconstitutional and gives them total control over you, but it is the most blasphemous thing you can do. By taking the mark, you are denying Jesus Christ. This is so because it will cause you to be brainwashed to worship the antichrist. As far as the wording, you're right. They try to hide it with fancy mumbo jumbo. But when you research it, the truth is so obvious.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9540311
United States
07/17/2012 02:34 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I don't, I think it has opportunity to weed out the ones that go to medical school because they think they will be millionares.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19534585
United States
07/17/2012 02:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I can't wait for my free insurance.. I'm gonna gets mine. I will take the $300 a month my company takes out of my check for my insurance and use it to buys me a Chrysler 300 with 22"s.. I loves the Obama.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1290769
United States
07/17/2012 07:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I like the idea of universal healthcare but unfortunately its not that simple, its more taxes and someone has to pay for it.
 Quoting: Machine42


Um, so, someone goes to the hospital and has no insurance and doesn't pay that bill. Eventually, that person ends up bankrupt.

No, when they don't pay, who pays for them in the end?

Hmm, if more people can afford a government issued insurance, as opposed to a blue cross etc which charges bloated costs, in the end costs reduce people. Man, the war machine to strike the fear of hell in you that this universal plan is the end of times have to breathe and understand what’s possible.

And yes, I expect bumps, but stop being the new "on-demand" generation and understand this is a 10/20 yr investment project.

It can work, if everyone just tried to make it understood.

Again, either way you view it, we ALL pay for it from bankruptcies or a new universal health care plan.

Or am I so dead wrong here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290769


There is no universal healthcare plan in existence right now. Obamacare only forces us to purchase insurance coverage. It does not build one hospital nor hire one doctor but just forces everybody to buy healtcare insurance coverage.
 Quoting: Bluebird


But, people with health care coverage then visit hospitals, they get paid. Increase staff to aid those, and build more hospitals. So not seeing the lose portion yet.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20738764
Germany
07/28/2012 10:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Not reading the other posts I just want to add that solidarity does not necessarily lead to a better society, you need the suiting persons to lead such a system to success.

In continental Europe the solidarity in health care for everybody forced by a must have insurance paid by everybody did not improve health in anyway. People are reckless to their bodies because everything is assured and now they want to force laws that help getting access to organs for the recklessest (transplant liver for the alcoholics, lungs for the smokers, hearts for the fat diabetics, aso).

The same with the social benefits: why work if somebody fixes my outcome, may it be food or shelter.

Great new world, fixed by the healthy living and hard working minority in the so called democratic countries, but the system is overturning itself and you will have civil wars in Europe if the productive countries would stop feeding the lazy ones.

Use your brain or take a look at nature: serve the food and the animal forgets to hunt and even to move (there are self-explanatory animal test with Caenorhabditis elegans)

Democratic socialism encourages stupidity, laziness & boldness.

So with Obamacare let´s say: welcome to the club! Additionally change your food stamps into cash and become a second Europe...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7654230
United States
07/28/2012 10:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Go read some of the horror stories about Britans National Health Care system. People dying from dehyradation because the govt. paid nurses won't give them water because they have to change the bed sheets more often if they do.

People drinking water out of flower vases to stay alive.

Why would you want to turn your life over to some affirmative action government nurse? Who might decide to just not give you water and kill you because you're white?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2324286
United States
07/28/2012 10:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
These trolls again.

Jeez...

"Obama Depopulation Policy Exposed! Red Alert!!!!!!"



DIE OBAMA TROLL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1510025
Australia
07/28/2012 10:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Fuck the peasants.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17478519
United States
07/28/2012 10:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
I hate it because I look at our government and I don't see one damn thing that they've ever done efficiently or effectively with regard to social issues. It will become a bloated, ineffective, hideously expensive yet strangely inaccessible bureaucratic clusterfuck soon enough.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20689407
United States
07/28/2012 10:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
if you do read this article. It might change your mind. [link to www.rhrealitycheck.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375479


Because America was built on rugged individualism and free markets.

I'd say the majority of Americans that actually want to work don't subscribe to the hive mentality.

I'd rather do for myself and take my chances then allow some government agency make decisions for me.

Bottom line for me anyway is that I really don't give a crap about people I don't know personally. I don't care if someone a thousand miles away doesn't have health care, a roof over their head or food to eat. It's really none of my business. I also don't want, or would accept a hand out from a stranger were I to find myself in that situation.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20617652
United States
07/28/2012 10:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
fuck you canada
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19679999
United States
07/28/2012 10:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
If I could trust our government to run it correctly and actually help people then great.
HOWEVER I see the way our government runs the VA and that scares the shit out of me.
And to think vets make up only 1% of the US population.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20605657
United States
07/28/2012 10:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
if your country had 77 million baby boomers who would suck up every last dime in the country to extend their miserable shitty lives , you would hate UH too. In short there is nothing in it for the majority of non boomers. wait till they shit off and then we can talk .
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20539899
United States
07/28/2012 10:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
if you do read this article. It might change your mind. [link to www.rhrealitycheck.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375479


oh shutup.
MultiStrada

User ID: 20428398
United States
07/28/2012 10:39 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Because it's a bill for Health Insurance and big Pharma.

I'm struggling to find how this bill will help the patient.

Also, decades of bills being written that have done harm to the citizens wallet to justify this bill is obvious. Take a good hard look at how we got here. Illegals going to the ER for a cold, like it or not progtards that had an impact on what we all paid.

Do your hospitals and health centers need marble floors??
Next medical bill you get take a look and the administrative costs then start looking around when your in these facilities.

This bill will only make that fact worse and anyone who is intellectually honest gets that.

My main reason for opposing the bill is the simple fact of not trusting the robber barons with 1/6th of the economy.

yoda
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1937265
United States
07/28/2012 10:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
just becaue you dont mind things forced on you.. Do you like it when someone rapes you and sticks their dick up your ass and do not even ask you???

We dont like it becasue we are FORCED to have it.. and if we do not want it we get FINED.. maybe thats a good start
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


That's a very disturbing, detailed account of your first date.

Really though, how come so-called "conservative" anti-gay types like you have the most vivid descriptions of homosexual acts?

serious question....thanks for answering, and maybe you should write a homosexual sex book...you sure have the imagination for such a work.
Saddletramp
We Don't Rent Pigs...

User ID: 812002
United States
07/28/2012 10:43 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Because everything run by the government is so efficient and cost effective...

whatever
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1937265
United States
07/28/2012 10:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: why do Americans hate Universal health care?
Go read some of the horror stories about Britans National Health Care system. People dying from dehyradation because the govt. paid nurses won't give them water because they have to change the bed sheets more often if they do.

People drinking water out of flower vases to stay alive.

Why would you want to turn your life over to some affirmative action government nurse? Who might decide to just not give you water and kill you because you're white?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7654230


You're saying there are not horror stories from the U.S. about our Health Care system? Really?

Are you really saying that?

Or are you just being a partisan dumbass?

News