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The Netherlands next superpower

 
Anonymous Coward
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07/17/2012 07:15 PM
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Pff youre blind!!!! We have no army no tanks.
A lot of immigrants who invaded the greatest cities more then 50% are immigrants in Amsterdam and rotterdam Utrecht etc. Unemployed every three months more then 100.000.
Population 16 milion. 8 milion need welfare or sort of them. We need to work till 67. Pensioens were given away.
We dot not have after we have the age of 67. The busines is going zo bad!! A week ago the wurst rating of bussines ever closed their doors. We had a good system everything is changed not help anyone anymore only cuts cuts.
No never wil be a superpower.
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07/17/2012 09:32 PM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
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Nopes. The Dutch already proved to be the world's first "group rapist" with their Dutch East India Company and their other european rivals like the French, Spanish, English etc. decided to get their grubby hands on all the loot and displaced them.ed
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07/18/2012 08:18 AM
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Hope more Americans come here :-) :5a:
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Really? Wow, that's great! I thought most other countries hated us. hf
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Americans are great, i guess it's some American Politics they don't like ;-)
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I'm glad people can separate the two because I don't think the gov't. of any country really represents the people.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


True.. :-)
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07/18/2012 08:34 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810

There is a small problem.
If climate warming continues, within the next 50 year most of the next superpower's territory will be flooded by the sea.
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07/18/2012 08:38 AM
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Nederland is een speler in het Grote Spel van macht en controle. Dat het een belangrijkere speler is dan menigeen denkt moge blijken uit het feit dat een aantal vooraanstaande medelanders belangrijke posities innemen. Deze posities hebben op één of andere wijze veelal te maken met de Bilderbergconferentie, die immers door Prins Bernhard in samenwerking met de CIA in 1954 is begonnen. Zo bezocht Jaap de Hoop Scheffer in 2003 die conferentie, die van 15 tot 18 mei in Versailles werd gehouden. Hij was toen nog minister van Buitenlandse Zaken in het kabinet Balkenende II. In september van dat jaar werd bekend gemaakt dat hij benoemd was tot secretaris-generaal van de NAVO. Een functie die hij op 1 januari 2004 op zich nam. Is dit toevallig of was zijn bezoek een soort van ballotage vooraf?

Over de rol van onze koningin bij die conferenties, die zij jaarlijks bezoekt, is veel onduidelijkheid. Naar aanleiding van schriftelijke kamervragen over de laatste Bilderbergbijeenkomst, die de SP’er Harry van Bommel aan Balkenende stelde ( zie daarvoor: [link to harryvanbommel.sp.nl] verschafte NOVA daar enige duidelijkheid over. De presentator Twan Huys geeft overigens daarbij in zijn aankondiging van het item aan dat het met de geheimzinnigheid van die club wel meevalt. Verderop in de uitzending blijken zijn woorden echter voer voor de slapenden onder ons te zijn. De reporter die aan het eind van het programma een interview met een SP’er mocht doen, liet zich in zijn inleiding ontvallen dat ‘onze’ koningin die conferentie van ‘wijze’ mannen en vrouwen leidde. De uitzending is hier na te bekijken.

Verder valt aan de gastenlijsten van de Bilderbergbijeenkomsten op dat Victor Halberstadt, een economieprofessor aan de Leidse Universiteit, een vaste gast is. Hij is secretaris van de club geweest. Ook Jeroen van der Veer, de Nederlandse topman van de Koninklijke Shell, is regelmatig aanwezig. Niet zo verwonderlijk natuurlijk, want Hare Majesteit’s positie van grootaandeelhouder bij Shell is een publiek geheim.

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Netherlands is a player in the Great Game of power and control. That it is a more important player than many think as evidenced by the fact that some prominent Dutch have other important positions. These positions have in some way mostly to do with the Bilderberg Conference, which was founded by Prince Bernhard in cooperation with the CIA in 1954. Thus Jaap de Hoop Scheffer visited in 2003 that conference, that of May 15 to 18 was held in Versailles. He was still foreign minister in the Balkenende II. In September of that year it was announced that he was appointed Secretary General of NATO. A function that he took on January 1, 2004. Is this coincidence or was visiting some kind of advance balloting? On the role of our queen at these conferences, which they visit annually, is much uncertainty. In response to written parliamentary question regarding the last Bilderberg meeting, the SP Euro-MP Harry van Bommel to Balkenende stated (please refer to: [link to harryvanbommel.sp.nl] / # comments), provided there any clarity on NOVA. The presenter will also Twan Huys beyond its announcement of the item that the mystery of that club that bad. Later in the broadcast, however, his words prove fodder for the sleepers among us. The reporter at the end of the program an interview with an SP Euro-MP could do, let himself slip in his introduction that 'our' queen conference of 'wise' men and women led. The show is here to look after. Further falls on the guest lists of the Bilderberg meetings that Victor Halberstadt, a professor of economics at Leiden University, a regular guest. He is secretary of the club. Also Jeroen van der Veer, the chief executive of Royal Dutch Shell, is frequently present. Not surprising of course, because Her Majesty's principal shareholder position at Shell is an open secret.

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07/18/2012 08:41 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810

There is a small problem.
If climate warming continues, within the next 50 year most of the next superpower's territory will be flooded by the sea.
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The earth is cooling down, not warming. Don't believe everything they tell you...
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07/18/2012 08:51 AM
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Really? Wow, that's great! I thought most other countries hated us. hf
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


Americans are great, i guess it's some American Politics they don't like ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379




I'm glad people can separate the two because I don't think the gov't. of any country really represents the people.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


True.. :-)
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Last weekend i did a BattleTour with my 2 sons, visited all the strategic towns which played a role during the Battle of the Bulge. We also visited the monumental "graveyards" of the American soldiers (graveyards sounds so unrespectful but i dont know another word for it), my sons were very impressed. I also showed them the Band of Brothers part of that battle. We even met some Americans who were also doing a tour. They also were very nice people...
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07/18/2012 08:55 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810


Nopes. The Dutch already proved to be the world's first "group rapist" with their Dutch East India Company and their other european rivals like the French, Spanish, English etc. decided to get their grubby hands on all the loot and displaced them.ed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14206864


Displaced them? They got what the former Dutch rulers wanted them to get ;-)

Did you all know that the Sumerian (a civilization from long long ago) language used the same sounds as our language? Did you know king Tut An Chamon had "Dutch" DNA?
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07/18/2012 08:56 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810

There is a small problem.
If climate warming continues, within the next 50 year most of the next superpower's territory will be flooded by the sea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16655102


ps: Limburg is +200 meters above mean sea level ;-)
aNONaMITTy

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07/18/2012 09:35 AM
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Americans are great, i guess it's some American Politics they don't like ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379




I'm glad people can separate the two because I don't think the gov't. of any country really represents the people.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


True.. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Last weekend i did a BattleTour with my 2 sons, visited all the strategic towns which played a role during the Battle of the Bulge. We also visited the monumental "graveyards" of the American soldiers (graveyards sounds so unrespectful but i dont know another word for it), my sons were very impressed. I also showed them the Band of Brothers part of that battle. We even met some Americans who were also doing a tour. They also were very nice people...
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I'm glad to hear this. TY.

I think when it gets right down to it, most people generally want to get along and treat each other with respect.
Daikirai

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07/18/2012 09:37 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810

There is a small problem.
If climate warming continues, within the next 50 year most of the next superpower's territory will be flooded by the sea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16655102


ps: Limburg is +200 meters above mean sea level ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


And as far as I'm concerned -that's all we need.

tomato
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07/18/2012 09:43 AM
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You have to be kidding me. The Netherlands is nothing special, just a bunch of conformist sheeple with crazy nationalistic ideas and a delusion of grandeur.
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07/18/2012 09:59 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810


Thei were spanish first
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07/18/2012 10:01 AM
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... maybe notm, seeing as it will be underwater soon
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07/18/2012 10:20 AM
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I'm glad people can separate the two because I don't think the gov't. of any country really represents the people.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


True.. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Last weekend i did a BattleTour with my 2 sons, visited all the strategic towns which played a role during the Battle of the Bulge. We also visited the monumental "graveyards" of the American soldiers (graveyards sounds so unrespectful but i dont know another word for it), my sons were very impressed. I also showed them the Band of Brothers part of that battle. We even met some Americans who were also doing a tour. They also were very nice people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379





I'm glad to hear this. TY.

I think when it gets right down to it, most people generally want to get along and treat each other with respect.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


I think they do, at least i want to :-)
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07/18/2012 10:22 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810


Thei were spanish first
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The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
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07/18/2012 10:22 AM
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Re: The Netherlands next superpower
So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810

There is a small problem.
If climate warming continues, within the next 50 year most of the next superpower's territory will be flooded by the sea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16655102


ps: Limburg is +200 meters above mean sea level ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


And as far as I'm concerned -that's all we need.

tomato
 Quoting: Daikirai


:-)
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07/18/2012 10:24 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
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Thei were spanish first
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The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
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Holanda was spanish for hundreds of years. And spain owned you in south africa

rockon
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07/18/2012 10:26 AM
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You have to be kidding me. The Netherlands is nothing special, just a bunch of conformist sheeple with crazy nationalistic ideas and a delusion of grandeur.
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We are not talking about most of the people, but the fact that some keyplayers in world economy/financial system are Dutch (working mostly behind the scenes).
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07/18/2012 10:30 AM
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810


Thei were spanish first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Holanda was spanish for hundreds of years. And spain owned you in south africa

rockon
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Read your history again mate, it took the Dutch quite a while to kick some Spanisch butt, but eventually this worked out well. The spanish conquerors of those days got kicked out. You should thank God for that. You would not survive here now. The weather is too cold, the Spanish "loverboy" tricks won't work with Dutch women plus we have no siestas, that means long working hours... asta lavista
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laugh
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07/18/2012 10:31 AM
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Clog gods.
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You have to be kidding me. The Netherlands is nothing special, just a bunch of conformist sheeple with crazy nationalistic ideas and a delusion of grandeur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119121


We are not talking about most of the people, but the fact that some keyplayers in world economy/financial system are Dutch (working mostly behind the scenes).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379



Yes, that might be true. But it is not something to be proud of, to be the leader of the evil cabal behind the scenes!
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So there are alot of rumors going around that The Netherlands will be the next big superpower. China and the US are going to be alot less important soon.
 Quoting: Triple-A_Facefister 11951810


Thei were spanish first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Holanda was spanish for hundreds of years. And spain owned you in south africa

rockon
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Oh, and about the south Africa part....: Congrats with your victory

ps: we are working our butts of here so we can save your Spanish banks (not your fault i know) so a little gratitude should be in place :P
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07/18/2012 10:37 AM
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You have to be kidding me. The Netherlands is nothing special, just a bunch of conformist sheeple with crazy nationalistic ideas and a delusion of grandeur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119121


We are not talking about most of the people, but the fact that some keyplayers in world economy/financial system are Dutch (working mostly behind the scenes).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379



Yes, that might be true. But it is not something to be proud of, to be the leader of the evil cabal behind the scenes!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119121


I am not proud of it either, i am also an ordinary "slave" mate...
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07/18/2012 10:48 AM
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Thei were spanish first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Holanda was spanish for hundreds of years. And spain owned you in south africa

rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


Oh, and about the south Africa part....: Congrats with your victory

ps: we are working our butts of here so we can save your Spanish banks (not your fault i know) so a little gratitude should be in place :P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


We are working like mad to save our banks too.. You need to do that anyway since lots of your money is in them.. That is not mercy to us, that is saving your own ass.. So no gratitude here, amigo
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07/18/2012 11:00 AM
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The only Spanish thing you find here is a Paella menu in the supermarket mate...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


Holanda was spanish for hundreds of years. And spain owned you in south africa

rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


Oh, and about the south Africa part....: Congrats with your victory

ps: we are working our butts of here so we can save your Spanish banks (not your fault i know) so a little gratitude should be in place :P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4090379


We are working like mad to save our banks too.. You need to do that anyway since lots of your money is in them.. That is not mercy to us, that is saving your own ass.. So no gratitude here, amigo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19778188


Saving our own ass? Nobody asked me what to do with "my money". I guess you don't know our system very well.

Every Dutch citizen is obliged to pay money in tax and for a "pension (retirement)" system. You don't have a choice.

Do you really think for one minute that if i had a choice i would put my money in Spanish banks or other Spanish stuff??? Sorry, i have to disappoint you in that. I would rather spent my money on something worthy...

You are seducing me to fall into a racist discussion here, i won't bite though.

I tell you what, maybe if you stop your "Spain is über" postings i will forgive you and i will even think about giving you 50 eurocents TIP money when you cleaned my room next week in some Spanish beach hotel...

hf
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07/18/2012 11:15 AM
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A small change at one place in a complex system, can have large effects elswhere..
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07/18/2012 11:37 AM
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Nice :-)
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12/03/2012 08:41 PM
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Can't wait till the day comes

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