Dear Christianity,

They will now tell you that you are CHOOSING to go to hell...

BUT....

NO ONE DOES..so how can GOD hold it against anyone if they NEVER HAD A CHOICE?

Its not like God has shown all mankind personally that there is a hell..OR a heaven..all we have is hearsay and the ravings of hypocrites to base any decisions on..

That would be like me trying to sell you a car without ever letting you SEE it.

Mankind NEVER GETS A CLEAR CUT CHOICE..only mad ravings from greedy book selling lying adulterating selfish hypocrites.

If God sends anyone to hell because his representatives are all stupid brainless idiots..then HE TOO is a stupid brainless idiot for letting the fate of mankind rest in the hands of inept self centered egotistical BASTARDS who spend MOST of their time disagreeing with eachother on HOW to threaten everyone with eternal torture.

Yeah dude, these people are literally brainwashed from birth by their parents and priests to believe that if they arent good little boys and girls they will be tortured for eternity by gods arch nemisis... oh wait god created satan... if hes all knowing and can see past, present and future than why would he have created satan in the first place unless he knew he was going to try to capture the evil sinners on earth...

This is the greatest fairytale of all time!

According to the bible its GOD that does ALL the punishing because satan gets burnt alive by him as well.

Most people dont beleive in either heaven or hell.

So are they choosing hell by default?

Is god going to torture needlessly and for the sake of being cruel...billions of people that didnt even MAKE a choice?

Isnt a "CHOICE" defined as having THE FACTS in front of you..and KNWOING fully well what EACH fact entails..then making a WELL informed CHOICE??

How can ANYONE do that when it comes to HELL?

Most people dont even beleive in such a place...and they are right.

It would be different if this happenned with each an every person though..

If God was to take you into a torture dungeon filled with racks and spikes and red hot pokers ect..and said to you "LOVE me..be my friend..have a personal relationship with me...cause if you DONT...this torture chamber will be put to full use on YOU for not accepting my offer. Its a reasonable offer too..all you have to do is beleive in me and love me..OR..you get horribly tortured over and over with NO way of stopping it...because once I get torturing I just CANT STOP...so please..its a gift..free will choice..love ME..or..TORTURE..take your pick....NO pressure..really.."

But God does not DO that.

So When they say "I didnt KNOW about your dungeon cause you never showed it to me..PLEASE have mercy"

God will tell them..

But you AUTOMATICALLY CHOSE to be tortured forever..its YOUR fault...free will an all"


And they will say..(the ones that DID know about the basement because God showed them ..

"THIS is WHY we didnt want to be your friend because you are a torturing EVIL SADIST"

Would God be fair and just and SANE in saying.... "Well..thats YOUR choice to believe that..this torture I do (As he slowly peels the skin of their faces) is all done in LOVE because I am SUCH a holy being...even TORTURE and AGONY are holy to me"?

Besides....

God NEVER mentioned eternal torture as part of the punishment when adam sinned..NOR did he mention it when cain killed his brother..NOR did he ever mention it in the laws..or the entire old testament....so if hell was SO BLOODY IMPORTANT and the DOOM of all that sin..then WHY oh WHY did God not point out such a VITAL FACT for thousands of years..UNTIL the catholics created the bible centuries AFTER Jesus.

They also fail to understand or address a couple of crucial points.

1) If God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then he created things the way they are, meaning he wants billions of people to suffer for eternity. He could have made things different, but he didn't, so he's a sadist.

2) The bible itself backs up his sadism, as does the behavior of many Christians, both today and throughout history. Their behavior alone is ample reason to shun their God. After all their own book says By their fruits shall you know them, and look at the fruits Christianity has given us: slavery, bloodshed, and oppression.

obviously your confusing the RCC bible, under athority of Constantine and the RCC circa 331ad, for the KJV bible, under athority of king James 1604, finished 1610, and published 1611, which also included some Apocrypha which the RCC hated and probably still does.

Wow man your awesome haha i dont even know what to say, you pretty much summed up how idiotic christianity is in that on post haha
much love to you brother!

Yeah and the bible also openly calls for bloodshed when members of your family commit sinful acts, why would a loving god call for murder of any of his children he supposedly loves...

There is no reasoning with the programming. It is a waste of time, effort, and energy. One must come into the knowledge of truth at the pace of his/her own soul evolution. It may take several lifetimes, but eventually everyone wakes up. Debating, judging, and such is of no positive consequence for anyone and it causes one who is awake to fall back into the same system of programming by their act of judging.

Ya know what??

Maybe God put the bible on earth to WEED OUT those not WORTHY of him.

All those who scream hell and doom at others are the very ones God does NOT WANT in his kingdom...because if he DID want them..then his Kindom would be jam packed with self righous evil hypocrites..and last I heard..God HATES hypocrisy.

God created Lucifer who chose to sin. We all have that choice. Who else is evil, the police, the judges? All law and order? Maybe instead it is You who want lawlessness - evil.

God is loving and justice.

Justice eh?

This worlds justice system..while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..you get a fine..you steal..you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..you kill..you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..same result..you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..MERCY..SYMPATHY..COMPASSION..REHABILITATION..OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..we honor him and build churches in his name...

Satan would be so proud of it.

Funny, then, that Christians are so rife with it.

Well said indeed.

Oh you can sin and steal and rape all you want so long as you say the right words to be forgiven. Whereas those who live a truly good life and yet doubt the bible, get to be punished forever. That's the opposite of justice.

Bingo.

The God of christianity as we have been taught is an incompetent impotent sadistic cruel bastard who..statistically speaking..is the greatest failure ever..only managing to save about 5% of the human race DESPITE his best efforts.

He is also the cruellest bastard who ever lived..and the sorest loser..in that the other 95% that he JUST COULD NOT SAVE..are thrown into a lake of fire he created to be tortured forever for a life they didnt ask for..in a system they had NO CHOICE but to live in..that was filled with millions of differing religions DESIGNED to confuse everyone who ever lived..which God was POWERLESS to stop..or he CHOSE NOT to stop the confusion.

Either way..the God we are taught about is a narcisstic cruel sore losing bastard and the ULTIMATE failure.

Must make christians feel real proud to worship and grovel to such loser.

In the end satan wins..GOD loses..and the end result is untold agony for the VAST MAJORITY of Gods creatures..who he SAYS he loves..but was UNABLE to save..and as a result..in a fit of endless rage and spite..has them tortured forever for a crime they did NOT COMMIT..as it was GOD who set the whole thing up in the first place.

Waana see TRUE evil at work?

Read this thread.. Thread: ITS ALL GOIN DOWN!!!!! and check out my reply to OP..its funny.

I loved the first reply he mdae..SUCH a total contradiction.

life is a test your flesh is but an illusion

No you dont. You lose eternity on the new earth choosing the fire and destroyed with the old earth.

the only thing i get from this thread is that the OP, and most of the posters have absolutly no fucken clue what their talking about, have little to no research whatsoever, yet feel compelled to talk shit and trash peoples faiths and beliefs.

btw, poster above, nowhere in the bible does it say not to cuss.
God bless you all, and hopefully one day you find the path to salvation.

HI Krime.

I was RAISED a christian remeber..I know EXACTLY what I am talking about and have done research out the yin yang.

Its WHY I know the TRUTH now.

The blackmail and lies dont work with me anymore.

GOD is NOT a cunt.

THATS the truth.

really?
hmmmmm.......
God bless you anyway.

Krime..I thought you would be able to SEE the point by now.

THAT rant was at the FAKE God..the one who IS a cunt.

The REAL God is NOT a cunt.

CAN you see my point in writing it now?

you aint gotta explain to me brother, im not God, He know what you mean.
say whatever you want bro.
i love ya, but that doesnt always mean imma agree with ya either lol.
and if youd quit changen your AC # every 2 seconds, i might know its you lol

I dont change IP on purpose.

Its a dynamic one..sometimes its the same all day..other times its differewnt every five minutes.

Whats weird is that it changes without me even disconnecting.

you could type your user name in.

Okay, let's say there's one of two Gods, according to your scenario. If you're right about your definition of God, you, also Christians will have a good afterlife. If Christians are correct with their definition, only they will experience a good afterlife. So either way, in your scenario, Christians will have a good afterlife. So on the safe side, may as well be a Christian.

Thats STILl fear based and GAMBLING..two things the REAL God would be AGAINST.

Most christians I have ever known ONLY bow to god because of the THREAT of eternal torture..NOT because they actually and truly LOVE him.

They are in TERROR of him..so they BOW>.grovelling..always in FEAR..but LOVE??..they DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS..because the God they GROVEL to DOES NOT KNOW WHAT it is EITHER.

Its all FEAR and THREATS.

FAKE love..FORCED love..IS NOT LOVE..its a LIE..and a COLLOSSAL ONE!..and GOD knows it too....

If there was no threat of hell or torture MOST christians would not BE christians..they would live their lives AS they please..they never really LOVE this God they worship..its just they are too AFRAID NOT to at least PRETEND to love him for fear of what he will DO to them if they DONT!

I dont have one.

You would have to be of fragile mind and dimmest wit to even entertain the idea that christianity is true. Not a crap of it makes sense or can be proven, but it's BIG business and so it thrives. Would be nice to see it in the shit bucket of religions though...

What Jesus said about loving and forgiving others is true.

What he said about doing to others what you want them to do to you is true.

The rest is BULLSHIT...cause the rest goes AGAINST those two statements.

And even if you think Jesus didnt exist you still cant fault that if the world lived by the above two statements there would be peace and love on earth.