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ZERO-HOUR DAMASCUS: Mujahideen Ordered to Damascus to Kill Assad. Possible Coup Underway.

 
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I still think russia or china will veto
 Quoting: godzilla85

veto is insignificant now

syria is fried if they don't call for foreign aid against terrorists

this is russian zero hour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466619


^This. Veto what? It does not matter anymore. Face the facts, Assad is all but gone at this point. There is no turning back.

The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


I'm more worried about a nuclear response to a chemical attack
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Nuclear response? Oh sorry Godzilla, I was referring to limited chemical attacks within Damascus by Assad against the FSA build-ups.

I would agree that if chemical attacks involved another country, that could lead to the situation quickly spiraling out of control, however as in Egypt and Libya, I doubt this will take place.
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BREAKING: Around 60 soldiers have defected with full equipment in Deir Balba neighbourhood of Homs.

[link to twitter.com]
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veto is insignificant now

syria is fried if they don't call for foreign aid against terrorists

this is russian zero hour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466619


^This. Veto what? It does not matter anymore. Face the facts, Assad is all but gone at this point. There is no turning back.

The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


I'm more worried about a nuclear response to a chemical attack
 Quoting: godzilla85


Nuclear response? Oh sorry Godzilla, I was referring to limited chemical attacks within Damascus by Assad against the FSA build-ups.

I would agree that if chemical attacks involved another country, that could lead to the situation quickly spiraling out of control, however as in Egypt and Libya, I doubt this will take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


sorry I misunderstood you, yeah I have no doubt that if he attacked Tel Aviv with chem warheads, that would be followed by Damascus suffering from a permanent case of glowing in the dark. That would really get all the bible nuts going.
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BREAKING: Around 60 soldiers have defected with full equipment in Deir Balba neighbourhood of Homs.

[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


It's all but over for Assad.
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07/18/2012 10:13 AM

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BREAKING: Reports claim that the Jordanian army is in full alert. Helicopters flying near Syrian border more than before

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Would Jordan go in to help Assad?
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BREAKING: Reports claim that the Jordanian army is in full alert. Helicopters flying near Syrian border more than before

[link to twitter.com]
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Would Jordan go in to help Assad?
 Quoting: Duckduckgoosechamp


Quite the opposite. They are hosting Saudi and American Troops for invasion.
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sorry I misunderstood you, yeah I have no doubt that if he attacked Tel Aviv with chem warheads, that would be followed by Damascus suffering from a permanent case of glowing in the dark. That would really get all the bible nuts going.
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No Israeli military head would ever give an order like that. They will answer drastically, yes, but conventionally.

An attack on the Syrian people with a WMD would not be in Israel's interest. It would make things worse.
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^This. Veto what? It does not matter anymore. Face the facts, Assad is all but gone at this point. There is no turning back.

The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


I'm more worried about a nuclear response to a chemical attack
 Quoting: godzilla85


Nuclear response? Oh sorry Godzilla, I was referring to limited chemical attacks within Damascus by Assad against the FSA build-ups.

I would agree that if chemical attacks involved another country, that could lead to the situation quickly spiraling out of control, however as in Egypt and Libya, I doubt this will take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


sorry I misunderstood you, yeah I have no doubt that if he attacked Tel Aviv with chem warheads, that would be followed by Damascus suffering from a permanent case of glowing in the dark. That would really get all the bible nuts going.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Lol.. no doubt for sure. I suppose at this point, best case scenario, Assad is gone and Syria transitions towards some type of democratic replacement, and Russia steps back. Worst case, Russian boots on the ground to protect Assad's regime.
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BREAKING: Reports claim that the Jordanian army is in full alert. Helicopters flying near Syrian border more than before

[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Would Jordan go in to help Assad?
 Quoting: Duckduckgoosechamp


Why would a US Ally who stages huge war games to scare Assad come to the rescue of Assad?
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On the Putin note, apparently he is having a presser right now.. I'll try to find out more.
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The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128

chemical weapons against who?

no, wildcard is syrian call for russian ground troops to enter syria

if fsa starts targeting russian troops, russia can respond with _disproportionate force_

syrian military would hold cities, russian troops would control countryside and cut off all supplies from bordering countries, eg. turkey

it is perfectly in accordance with international law for a country to call upon another country for military assistance, including ground troops

may be too late though
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It does look like the status quo is over... Either Assad falls in days, or ww3 starts. I'm hoping for the latter...

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Explosions heard near HQ of division responsible for guarding presidential palace [link to bbc.in]

500 assad troops just defected near to Assads palace All Assad Forces urged to abandon this Dying Regime Save your selfs RT
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It does look like the status quo is over... Either Assad falls in days, or ww3 starts. I'm hoping for the latter...

5a
 Quoting: Doom Lover


best case scenario, Assad falls much like Gaddafi or Saddam, stability is brough to the strategic situation Worse case, he manages to fire off a volley at Israel and starts a regional conflict that may end with some serious numbers of dead on both sides.
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good analysis.

in fact this is a perfect opportunity for Russia to ratify its presence not only in the port of Tartus, but gain full control over the Syrian territories.


The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128

chemical weapons against who?

no, wildcard is syrian call for russian ground troops to enter syria

if fsa starts targeting russian troops, russia can respond with _disproportionate force_

syrian military would hold cities, russian troops would control countryside and cut off all supplies from bordering countries, eg. turkey

it is perfectly in accordance with international law for a country to call upon another country for military assistance, including ground troops

may be too late though
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The wildcard is chemical weapons, which if used, will instantly involve NATO intervention, and Russia will not intervene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128

chemical weapons against who?

no, wildcard is syrian call for russian ground troops to enter syria

if fsa starts targeting russian troops, russia can respond with _disproportionate force_

syrian military would hold cities, russian troops would control countryside and cut off all supplies from bordering countries, eg. turkey

it is perfectly in accordance with international law for a country to call upon another country for military assistance, including ground troops

may be too late though
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466619


Assad using chemical weapons against pockets of FSA resistance (read my follow-up). Russian troops on the ground, has about a 1% chance of actually happening. Remember how Russia had it's ass kicked in Afghanistan? Do they really want to play that game again in Syria? I doubt it. Proxy wars are long and difficult, and one in which Russia will lose.
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Assistant Vice President General Hasan Turkmani has died.
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Now wait. I'm reading this thread thoroughly and am only on page 3.

If the vice-president fled to Jordan and the Prime Minister and this Assistant Vice president are dead.....

Who else is there but Assad?

I'm asking because I didn't know they had an assistant vice prez. Do they also have an asst PM?
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500 Assad troops just defected near to Assad's Palace.

All Assad Forces urged to abandon this Dying Regime.


[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert

disinfo
doesn't work on people in the know
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07/18/2012 10:23 AM
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FOREIGN MINISTER OF RUSSIA CONFIRMS THAT ASMA EL-ASSAD, WIFE OF SYRIAN PRESIDENT, LEAVED SYRIA FOR MOSCOW.
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Units of the Special forces Command in Qaboun has defected

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FOREIGN MINISTER OF RUSSIA CONFIRMS THAT ASMA EL-ASSAD, WIFE OF SYRIAN PRESIDENT, LEAVED SYRIA FOR MOSCOW.
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link
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2012-? - Boku82
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Top Syrian intel official was killed in Damascus blast

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20007725


Looks like an open revolt now. Remniscient of the final days in Libya...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20011907


This is terrible... the karma is going to come and bite the ass of America big time.

Hillary is probably sitting in front of that tv screen ready and waiting.

God help us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19078950


Why is this terrible? You feel terrible that a repressive regime is being overthrown? Freedom comes with a price, and this is just the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


The freedom and democracy excuse is BS.

Syria was peaceful, as was Libya. In both countries the people were fairly well off and living in safety. They may be Muslims for the most part, but they weren't bothering anyone.
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wow this situation is really moving right now, can't even blink for fear might miss something shitstir2
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Massive FSA convoy moving to Damascus

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Israeli military chief General Benny Gantz attended a meeting with top military commanders on Syria.
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three meetings on Syria
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Assistant Vice President General Hasan Turkmani has died.
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... what's assad gonna do?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


who knows, if he's gonna do his scorched earth he's gonna have to do it fast cuz he's probably just outta time.
 Quoting: godzilla85



I don't think he has to worry about that. The sun has taken care of that for him.
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[link to www.aljazeera.com]

Live broadcast, Putin and Erdogan
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SFA fears that the regime may resort to chemical warfare to fight off opposition and civilians

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FOREIGN MINISTER OF RUSSIA CONFIRMS THAT ASMA EL-ASSAD, WIFE OF SYRIAN PRESIDENT, LEAVED SYRIA FOR MOSCOW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550128


link
 Quoting: boku82


Would Putin try to get Assad out? With all the defections do you think Assad has the capability to launch a last ditch attack on Israel?

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