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If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???

 
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
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You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


I have it as back up for sure! Instant espresso, it's not too bad. Tea too. There's something comforting about a hot cup of coffee or tea.

I remember the big quake back in '94 and my neighbor was making coffee by putting the whole beans into cheese cloth and smashing the beans with a meat mallet- necessity is the mother of invention!
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
I have it as back up for sure! Instant espresso, it's not too bad. Tea too. There's something comforting about a hot cup of coffee or tea.

I remember the big quake back in '94 and my neighbor was making coffee by putting the whole beans into cheese cloth and smashing the beans with a meat mallet- necessity is the mother of invention!
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The big advantages of tea and coffee are that you use hot water or boiling water to make it, which kills germs. Also if the water isn't very high quality, it will taste better in the form of tea or coffee. And of course the caffeine and sugar might make you feel a bit better too.

Make sure that if you buy instant coffee, that it comes in a METAL tin. Lots of cheap stuff comes in a cardboard "tin", like a big toilet roll with coffee in it. You can squeeze it, and if it very easily squashes in, it's probably cardboard.
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
I ask this because a little while back i had the worst experience ever, I was in a blackout, I had no electricity, Which meaned i had no tv to stay up to date with the world, the news, politics and weather also no internet which was the worst, the internet was my aka "wife" and she was gone
it was no more twitter or facebook or youtube or even GLP. I use to be a video game addict and since there was no power i couldn't play video games on my ps3, I had no cellphone to text my friends because it died,and the food was spoling to the point maggots started to grow and there was no 911, I could of got robbed, I could of got killed :( I mean being honest the first day, I survived, but when the second day came, thats when it hit me, I started to go insane, I was getting angry at everything for no reason and by the third day i didn't even feel human anymore. "I think it is better to test ourselves breaking away from all of these electronics we use in our day to day lives and see how long we can last without them finding other alternatives, Because i don't think i could of took another week of that, When the big solar flare goes off and put us back into the stone age, Humanity is going to become insanity, Just look at the world now how it depends so much on technology
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No offense, OP, but it's people like you who will go into a crybaby panic at the loss of all their toys, and descend into civil unrest out of sheer boredom.

Do yourself a favor: Buy a 12v car battery, an inverter, and a solar charger. Then, you can x-box to your heart's content or watch dvd's or whatever.

BTW, for everyone else: GET A GRIP. WE'VE ONLY HAD ELECTRICITY FOR ONE CENTURY.

We're only talking about going back to how things were in our grandmother's time.

We've GOT this.

Jesus, people.
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
The tin IS a very good idea- currently we have instant coffee in glass jars. I have some extra tea tins and could easily transfer over.

Funny when you think of all the things "to do." The list seems endless!
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07/19/2012 03:01 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


Not fair. A lot of us stupid, fat-arsed Americans do take an interest in survival skills.

We aren't ALL watching American Idol.

But I'm glad to hear that every single alligator-wrestling Australian is of the highest intellectual caliber, maintains the physique of an Olympic athlete, and is fully capable of sustaining their families indefinitely on skinned rabbits.

Congratulations to your entire population. Not one idiot among you, and no fatties, either. Wow! That's GREAT!
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07/19/2012 03:04 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
fuck no
just a dumb broke boy
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07/19/2012 03:07 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


Not fair. A lot of us stupid, fat-arsed Americans do take an interest in survival skills.

We aren't ALL watching American Idol.

But I'm glad to hear that every single alligator-wrestling Australian is of the highest intellectual caliber, maintains the physique of an Olympic athlete, and is fully capable of sustaining their families indefinitely on skinned rabbits.

Congratulations to your entire population. Not one idiot among you, and no fatties, either. Wow! That's GREAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835047


The only fatties we have here are the damn IMMIGRANTS.

You should see the fucking SIZE of the blubber gutted Kiwis that come over here to bludge and get fatter.

Then ya got the chinks and arabs..NOT fat generally but NONE of them would have a fucking CLUE how to live off the grid.
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07/19/2012 03:13 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Here's an idea... obviously you are on here soooo.. you know how to read. Soooooo go to yard sales, thrift stores and such and buy cheap books on things that interest you and stories you may like to read.. and there you go.. entertainment for when shtf.

Geez people... learn to entertain yourself without electric! No one wants to read a book now days. That is the sad thing. So, you can get them pretty cheap.
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Here's an idea... obviously you are on here soooo.. you know how to read. Soooooo go to yard sales, thrift stores and such and buy cheap books on things that interest you and stories you may like to read.. and there you go.. entertainment for when shtf.

Geez people... learn to entertain yourself without electric! No one wants to read a book now days. That is the sad thing. So, you can get them pretty cheap.
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And a book of crossword puzzles, a deck of cards and a scrabble game.

Old school ;)
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Here's an idea... obviously you are on here soooo.. you know how to read. Soooooo go to yard sales, thrift stores and such and buy cheap books on things that interest you and stories you may like to read.. and there you go.. entertainment for when shtf.

Geez people... learn to entertain yourself without electric! No one wants to read a book now days. That is the sad thing. So, you can get them pretty cheap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20030387


And get the books NOW before these damn ebooks put the publishers out of business.

Also, at the yard sales, I always try and pick up non-electric gadgets to help with daily chores. So far, got a great deal on laundry wash-tubs with a wringer, an old singer hand-crank sewing machine, hand-crank coffee grinder, non-electric floor sweeper (hate vacuums anyway, stupid cords), etc etc.

Everything from back then is super easy to repair and maintain, since it was before all this planned obsolescence crap and NO computers to complicate everything.

I actually think a more primitive lifestyle would be okay after the initial shock and adjustment.

It's the law enforcement issue that worries me.
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07/19/2012 03:31 AM
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You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


Not fair. A lot of us stupid, fat-arsed Americans do take an interest in survival skills.

We aren't ALL watching American Idol.

But I'm glad to hear that every single alligator-wrestling Australian is of the highest intellectual caliber, maintains the physique of an Olympic athlete, and is fully capable of sustaining their families indefinitely on skinned rabbits.

Congratulations to your entire population. Not one idiot among you, and no fatties, either. Wow! That's GREAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835047


The only fatties we have here are the damn IMMIGRANTS.

You should see the fucking SIZE of the blubber gutted Kiwis that come over here to bludge and get fatter.

Then ya got the chinks and arabs..NOT fat generally but NONE of them would have a fucking CLUE how to live off the grid.
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Assuming you don't work in the diplomatic corps, then?
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These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


Not fair. A lot of us stupid, fat-arsed Americans do take an interest in survival skills.

We aren't ALL watching American Idol.

But I'm glad to hear that every single alligator-wrestling Australian is of the highest intellectual caliber, maintains the physique of an Olympic athlete, and is fully capable of sustaining their families indefinitely on skinned rabbits.

Congratulations to your entire population. Not one idiot among you, and no fatties, either. Wow! That's GREAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835047


The only fatties we have here are the damn IMMIGRANTS.

You should see the fucking SIZE of the blubber gutted Kiwis that come over here to bludge and get fatter.

Then ya got the chinks and arabs..NOT fat generally but NONE of them would have a fucking CLUE how to live off the grid.
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Assuming you don't work in the diplomatic corps, then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835047


If I DID Australia would be Kiwi and arab and chink FREE.

Well..only the FAT BLUDGING Kiwis..the rest are cool.
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07/19/2012 04:16 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


LMAOOO!!cruise
It is better to let the world go out of control so they can see their own fate just as I did 20 years ago
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07/19/2012 11:22 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
With my camping experience, I could do ok.
My only worry is an alternate mode of transportation in case of bug out.
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07/19/2012 11:37 AM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112

And what are the Aussies going to do when the beer runs out?

Same thing. Same outcome.

lol

Are you prepared to live in the Outback?

Got water?
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07/19/2012 12:03 PM
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Fuku has demonstrated rather well that nuclear power plants, even if scrammed, must be constantly cooled or the shit hits the fan.
That's a given.

Losing the grid raises more problems than simply having backup generators to keep the reactors and SFPs cooled.

The fuel supply must be constantly replenished by fuel trucks.. trucks that won't run because the electronics are fried.
And even if they do still run.. the roads may be blocked by the frenzied evacuation of millions of city-dwellers all trying to get away at the same time.

And if the veneer of society collapses.. who is going to leave their families behind to drive those trucks..?
The banks are offline, no cash but what you had in your pocket at the time. No paychecks.
Hospitals will run out of diesel for emergency generators for the same reason.. then they will be done.

I'm pretty sure if we lose the grid we will find out first-hand what it was like in the wild, wild west.
With meltdowns as a kicker..


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07/19/2012 12:14 PM
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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.

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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

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yep. Think about apartment complexes. Imagine just one week after toilets don't work.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Our family of 5 was without power for 9 days after a big storm. We camp quite a bit so we had everything we needed. It was the middle of winter and we were fortunate enough to have two propane fireplaces, we stayed warm. We took our turkey fryer and boiled water to bath in, but our stove was electric so as soon as I had the money I bought a gas stove and converted it to propane. We had a huge tank outside our house that is not dependent at all on city services. We wanted to see how long we could make it and finally on the 9th day we went to a hotel and after checking in and taking a shower, the power came back on at our house. The kids were bummed and really enjoyed it, so every time the power would go out they would beg dad not to turn on the generator, which we bought day 7 of our extended outage.
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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

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For the record......saving all of your newspapers, paper grocery bags and phone books could help with the TP problem.....;)

Myself....the only thing that worries me is the loss of the a/c....I have asthma and the summer air is like breathing poison to me.....Any suggestions?
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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

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yep. Think about apartment complexes. Imagine just one week after toilets don't work.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


.. cause.. people will still have to crap..

I'm out in the county, so.. I'll dig a hole in the backyard and make myself a 'country' toilet.. a little brown building.. newspaper included.. hehe

In the city.. I dunno.. it's much harder to dig a hole in concrete and asphalt.. always someone knocking on the door saying, hurry up..

Good to see ya, SoS.. hi

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I was born at home in a place without electricity... still here... intend to stay until the jig is up.
Hang out... EZ Links - HOT daily news portal.
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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


For the record......saving all of your newspapers, paper grocery bags and phone books could help with the TP problem.....;)

Myself....the only thing that worries me is the loss of the a/c....I have asthma and the summer air is like breathing poison to me.....Any suggestions?
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Going nocturnal might be the way.. shade and inactivity during the hottest times. The basement of your house will stay the coolest. No easy solutions.
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I was born at home in a place without electricity... still here... intend to stay until the jig is up.
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I grew up that way.. propane lights and appliances.. wood stove heat.. batteries.. diesel generator.
I read a lot of books..

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Just think of all the people who will not have any medications anymore.

And, all the people on dialysis. Heart medications, etc.

All the people in cities without the ability to flush toilets.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Sewer doom... ahhhh....

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


For the record......saving all of your newspapers, paper grocery bags and phone books could help with the TP problem.....;)

Myself....the only thing that worries me is the loss of the a/c....I have asthma and the summer air is like breathing poison to me.....Any suggestions?
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Going nocturnal might be the way.. shade and inactivity during the hottest times. The basement of your house will stay the coolest. No easy solutions.
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You make a very good point....Thanks!
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Last year's five F4-F5 tornadoes had us without power for a full week, starting with the nuclear plant. And growing up we were always the last ones to get power back after major storms. That meant one to two weeks with the blizzard of 93 and big ice storm in 98.

The winter outages were the easiest because of the low temperatures. We were able to keep our refrigerated items perfectly well just bagged and in Dad's truck. We cooked over the kerosene stove we used for heat, and took the grill off the top to heat water to wash. We didn't take full baths, but we could warm enough to clean up and wash our hair over the sink. One big pot of hot water was plenty to wash the day's dishes too.

The worst of it was at night. When your vision isn't the best to begin, trying to read, write, or sew by candlelight doesn't work so well.

The thing that has me worried is my husband's need for seizure meds following massive head trauma as a child. And, I get migraines with the CMEs that can follow a large flare starting with mid M class flares. I don't even want to contemplate what one that large would do to my nervous system.
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Hopefully not.
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Re: If a solar flare destroys the whole electrical grid, would you survive???
Yes- funny you should say camping. That's exactly what I likened my coffee grinding experience to and what it would be like- going camping.

Happy campers? not so much.
 Quoting: 1221 8055979

You should probably get a tin of instant coffee, and maybe some tea bags or tea leaves. It won't taste exactly the same, but hey it's coffee and it's easy to make. Even while camping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602447


These stupid fat arsed merkans dont have a fuckin clue do they?

Fuck..I bet less than one in 1000 of them have ever slept in a TENT let alone under the stars.

And fewer than one in 100,000 of them have ever killed and eaten something THEY caught.

Bet less than 1 in 1,000,000 even know how to skin a fukin rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18119112


Not fair. A lot of us stupid, fat-arsed Americans do take an interest in survival skills.

We aren't ALL watching American Idol.

But I'm glad to hear that every single alligator-wrestling Australian is of the highest intellectual caliber, maintains the physique of an Olympic athlete, and is fully capable of sustaining their families indefinitely on skinned rabbits.

Congratulations to your entire population. Not one idiot among you, and no fatties, either. Wow! That's GREAT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835047


Dont listen to that daft aussie they are just trying to pick a fight. I think that americans have the best survival skills and tips and we have learned most of our skills and knowledge in that department from american blogs and sites and you tube videos from americans.
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