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i think what nassim is getting his head around is our non material dimensions and the invisible architecture that is within them
he has discovered their is more quantity in our non material dimensions than there is within our material dimension
i don`t know if he has explored the various non material dimensions, the reason for the larger quantity of measurably "weight", as compared to the total weight of our material dimension, or, he stops at the "door" into "god" , as often is the case by tradition

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reminds me of this
to a degree
sequences of words that seem to desire expression of the same reality we experience in language we appear to possess to make sense of practical use and form into transmutable shape that prompts satisfying feedback

9 is the "prime" element of god with 6 & 3

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


god physically comprises of 3 non material forces that function in a manner that manifests thus:

universe structure forces eternal to function eternally

9 = charge
6 = field
3 = motion (vortice)

the 3 have personality both singularly and collectively

the 3 are what comprise our own and all things personality (self)

in practice god motions as thus

either action (motive) moves towards god from 3 motion (vortice) through 6 field (emotion/mood) to 9 charge (creator)

or the other direction 9, 6, 3 towards all things (effected)

this eternal feedback (direction of spin clock/counter) is within all things always and varies pro rata to scale of final created form within each layers of it`s created form
remembering that all things are formed and sustained from within, being always existing within the non material domain of 3,6,9

the current human awareness of it`s velocity of action (spin/counter/clock) is:

An attosecond is an SI unit of time equal to 1018 of a second. (one quintillionth of a second). For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe
 Quoting: velocity

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

spin below at light velocity and below is our material universe and there is no lower limit to spins velocity other than it never stops.

always motion = always life
 Quoting: aether


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Full circle with mass vs. light, particle vs. wave, a singularity when refering to mass, a vacuum when refering to light.

The following article is a postulate about a gravitons (mass-less gravity) essentially black holes consisting of photonic light, condensed into massively compacted black hole. By that definition the black hole could be described in quantum physics as both a singularity and essentially a highly condense black hole vacuum.

The reason it can be described as a vaccuum is because the gravitron in themselves have no structure that glues them to each other. They essentially carrying no charge as a photon or electron would. Hence a vacuum that maintains a singular structure held together by the gravitational force of the black hole. Ask canuck about buckaroo banzai

[link to www.newscientist.com]
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Full circle with mass vs. light, particle vs. wave, a singularity when refering to mass, a vacuum when refering to light.

The following article is a postulate about a gravitons (mass-less gravity)

essentially black holes consisting of photonic light, condensed into massively compacted black hole. By that definition the black hole could be described in quantum physics as both a singularity and essentially a highly condense black hole vacuum.

The reason it can be described as a vaccuum is because the gravitron in themselves have no structure that glues them to each other. They essentially carrying no charge as a photon or electron would. Hence a vacuum that maintains a singular structure held together by the gravitational force of the black hole. Ask canuck about buckaroo banzai

[link to www.newscientist.com]
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Yes!


This!


banana



PHI


singularity


vortex


Pull and Push

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how does a singularity exist

not a singular effect but a singularity, something that is everything devoid of anything but it`self
when
we exist
because
if the singularity exists devoid of all things but it`self
, we know it must be a singular effect of 2 or more causes because by default we are part of it
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SS's do you still have that image of the atom?

The one with the hole and the waves?





Aether this is the way it was explained to me today...

With an image of the torus I posted...


The purple image is correct

For all except at the very center of the funnel section it twists.

At the center of the twist it creates such a large amount of friction that it acts as not only a heat source but also like an implosion. A gravitational pull.

It includes chaos theory because the twist takes into itself and rips apart making the energy go through an entire metamorphosis

That twist is growing because it is picking up momentum.

As it pulls more matter into itself its mass grows in size which increases its force of acceleration.



This is how I saw it as well.

The 'Intersection'.




:infinity: <--- cross section.

See it?

balance4

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it's the IXI video... LOL
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Q: How do you know Adam was a Canadian?
A: Who else could stand beside a naked woman and be tempted by a fruit?

rofl
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i think what nassim is getting his head around is our non material dimensions and the invisible architecture that is within them
he has discovered their is more quantity in our non material dimensions than there is within our material dimension
i don`t know if he has explored the various non material dimensions, the reason for the larger quantity of measurably "weight", as compared to the total weight of our material dimension, or, he stops at the "door" into "god" , as often is the case by tradition
 Quoting: aether


I would imagine that is the place to stop. I think, unless one has very conscious experiences in the non-material, it would be difficult going there in discussion. It is too 'mysterious'. There would be no way to discern what is capable in the non-material, as to what is capable.

Wait, that is stated incorrectly. Let's try this...

There is no 'reality' there to the conscious mind, unless it is experienced in a conscious manner. So, that is a good stopping point in discussion, as I see it.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Q: How do you know Adam was a Canadian?
A: Who else could stand beside a naked woman and be tempted by a fruit?

rofl
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


tounge



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what is that which you are describing seer

a subatomic vortice in our material dimension matching it`s other self vortice in our non material dimension

the crossover occurring in all places (everywhere) within our subatomic baseline that is the boundary of our material dimension and our non material dimensions
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i think what nassim is getting his head around is our non material dimensions and the invisible architecture that is within them
he has discovered their is more quantity in our non material dimensions than there is within our material dimension
i don`t know if he has explored the various non material dimensions, the reason for the larger quantity of measurably "weight", as compared to the total weight of our material dimension, or, he stops at the "door" into "god" , as often is the case by tradition
 Quoting: aether


I would imagine that is the place to stop. I think, unless one has very conscious experiences in the non-material, it would be difficult going there in discussion. It is too 'mysterious'. There would be no way to discern what is capable in the non-material, as to what is capable.

Wait, that is stated incorrectly. Let's try this...

There is no 'reality' there to the conscious mind, unless it is experienced in a conscious manner. So, that is a good stopping point in discussion, as I see it.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


but the good news is our universe is coherent
so
although it is not our own consciousness we have to match, it is "gods"
we know from experience and observation it`s coherence is perfectly understandable and easy to fall into line with
where it not so
all would be chaos
which never has existed other that within the imagination of some people
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what is that which you are describing seer

a subatomic vortice in our material dimension matching it`s other self vortice in our non material dimension

the crossover occurring in all places (everywhere) within our subatomic baseline that is the boundary of our material dimension and our non material dimensions
 Quoting: aether



I think I am trying to describe 'Zero Point'. But I am not versed enough in this field to know if I am using the correct terminology.

That is why I have attempted to use simple shapes, images, and numbers 0,1,2,and 3.


As I have mentioned, I never studied this, I didn't read your, or SS, or the others musing on it in months past.


It just came to me one day and I was compelled to seek you, SS, and the others out a week or so later on Luna's Vortex thread.


Does this resonate with you at all?


hf
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Full circle with mass vs. light, particle vs. wave, a singularity when refering to mass, a vacuum when refering to light.

The following article is a postulate about a gravitons (mass-less gravity) essentially black holes consisting of photonic light, condensed into massively compacted black hole. By that definition the black hole could be described in quantum physics as both a singularity and essentially a highly condense black hole vacuum.

The reason it can be described as a vaccuum is because the gravitron in themselves have no structure that glues them to each other. They essentially carrying no charge as a photon or electron would. Hence a vacuum that maintains a singular structure held together by the gravitational force of the black hole. Ask canuck about buckaroo banzai

[link to www.newscientist.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Yep. Dion brought Buckaroo Bonzai up. He wanted me to watch it for something we discussed being in the movie.

Question:

If the black hole is made up entirely of the gravitron, then that is the inverted area. No, that is incorrect as well.

Let me think.

The inside of the event horizon would be the inverted area. Outside the inverted area is...

ah, got it. The magnetic fields just outside the event horizon can still exist and control flow even if it is a gravitron. Though the gravitron is carrying no charge, it still rides the streams of magnetism. As energy pours towards the black hole, entanglement within the massive magnetic fields begins. Ends up turning into a massive churning ocean of plasma pulling in on itself. Charge is released...how?

Then, upon ejection from the inverted zone through north/south poles, the material is reverted as a neutral energy, but shot up and out through spinning magnetic columns, they again begin to accumulate polarity/charge.

hmm...I am putting a couple different theories into this. IMO, there should be a 'gravitron' zone that exists prior to the inversion zone (event horizon). At what point does plasma's charge become neutralized? Reminds me of superconductivity and the 'impossibility' that elements show within that state of temperature and compression.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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SS's do you still have that image of the atom?

The one with the hole and the waves?





Aether this is the way it was explained to me today...

With an image of the torus I posted...


The purple image is correct

For all except at the very center of the funnel section it twists.

At the center of the twist it creates such a large amount of friction that it acts as not only a heat source but also like an implosion. A gravitational pull.

It includes chaos theory because the twist takes into itself and rips apart making the energy go through an entire metamorphosis

That twist is growing because it is picking up momentum.

As it pulls more matter into itself its mass grows in size which increases its force of acceleration.



This is how I saw it as well.

The 'Intersection'.




:infinity: <--- cross section.

See it?

balance4
 Quoting: Seer777


firstatom
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Yeah I get lost in the science technicals part...I'm better with feel and visuals too...I figure someday it'll all just click...
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how does a singularity exist

not a singular effect but a singularity, something that is everything devoid of anything but it`self
when
we exist
because
if the singularity exists devoid of all things but it`self
, we know it must be a singular effect of 2 or more causes because by default we are part of it
 Quoting: aether


aether is not quantum entanglement a singular effect on separated particles? So what explains it other than a singularity on a microcosm level? Two once connected particular sharing the same resonance. On a universal level would this not explain the ambient temperature of the Universe? Why must a singularity nor be observable? On a human level ...... soulmate, but who really knows how women think?
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Seer, it is important to remember, I think, that the 'hole' you are seeing is not a hole. It is merely the downward thrust of the oscillations that the 'light' leaves a shadow of.

asymmetric

But, you are on point, but this gets to be a slippery area.

The 'hole' you are seeing doesn't exist. Just like your infinity symbol.

It is similar to this. It is a convergent point of movement.

q1/2spin
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Seer, it is important to remember, I think, that the 'hole' you are seeing is not a hole. It is merely the downward thrust of the oscillations that the 'light' leaves a shadow of.

asymmetric

But, you are on point, but this gets to be a slippery area.

The 'hole' you are seeing doesn't exist. Just like your infinity symbol.

It is similar to this. It is a convergent point of movement.

q1/2spin
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The hole you are thinking of is the bridge of material to non-material, but exists as 'god'. It is not 'viewable', but is knowable. It is what I referred to the singularity.

I need a particular Walter Russell quote...but, I'm getting ready to leave work.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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it`s a good description for zero point seer
zero point is everywhere (distributed) and what looks like chaos is never chaos
chaos is shapes in motion of motive as yet unrecognizable because there is insufficient information available to the observer to make sense what the shapes are doing
that passes
always
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it`s a good description for zero point seer
zero point is everywhere (distributed) and what looks like chaos is never chaos
chaos is shapes in motion of motive as yet unrecognizable because there is insufficient information available to the observer to make sense what the shapes are doing
that passes
always
 Quoting: aether


awesome!
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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how does a singularity exist

not a singular effect but a singularity, something that is everything devoid of anything but it`self
when
we exist
because
if the singularity exists devoid of all things but it`self
, we know it must be a singular effect of 2 or more causes because by default we are part of it
 Quoting: aether


aether is not quantum entanglement a singular effect on separated particles? So what explains it other than a singularity on a microcosm level? Two once connected particular sharing the same resonance. On a universal level would this not explain the ambient temperature of the Universe? Why must a singularity nor be observable? On a human level ...... soulmate, but who really knows how women think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


it seems to work like this

if we use gravity field as an analogy

if two anything anywhere (connect) in a manner that is meaningful enough to each of them (synergy)

forever after that both somethings desire the continence of the synergy experience and there exists a medium (field of gravity analogy) that enables both somethings to continue the experience instant/distance whatever the distance may be

remembering our non material (invisible) dimensions are devoid of matter thus information (emotion) travels instantly and does what emotion does, cause material effect within the emotionally effected
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Seer, it is important to remember, I think, that the 'hole' you are seeing is not a hole.


It is merely the downward thrust of the oscillations that the 'light' leaves a shadow of.

asymmetric

But, you are on point, but this gets to be a slippery area.

The 'hole' you are seeing doesn't exist. Just like your infinity symbol.

It is similar to this. It is a convergent point of movement.

q1/2spin
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



I see it as the vortex appears as a hole due to shadow.


I see the oscillations moving out the North pole and back down and around into the South Pole.


In and through...up and out.

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i have never thought about heat transfer

Heat cannot pass from a cold to a hot body. The opposite condition where heat always flows from a hot to a cold body is valid for the whole universe.
 Quoting: observation


i suppose what causes heat is the vital question to hot and cold areas
if it is the motion of electricity, which i am sure it is, the temperature differentials may simple be the different mediums the electricity is flowing through therefore whether it is hotter or colder will be as a result of the motive of the flow and not really very much to do with heat

i imagine
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Q: How do you know Adam was a Canadian?
A: Who else could stand beside a naked woman and be tempted by a fruit?

rofl
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


The woman inflicts another scar. Must be in her DNA.
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yes your visuals feel good seer

like our hearts the "mechanical" motion sequences we see are living action (life in motion) of that which we live within
our self universe
the crossover between non material and material is a snap shot of the motion of our living environment
and
to it
the crossover is like from your blood to your skin
i imagine

two very different textures functioning within their larger complexity which to our universe is it`self as only it knows it`self
i doubt it consciously thinks about the crossover very often
no reason for it to do so
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Q: How do you know Adam was a Canadian?
A: Who else could stand beside a naked woman and be tempted by a fruit?

rofl
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


The woman inflicts another scar. Must be in her DNA.
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lol
i just noticed that joke
in the uk we will say
he must be irish
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Yeah I get lost in the science technicals part...I'm better with feel and visuals too...I figure someday it'll all just click...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna

Me to....Pictures help. lol
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Seer, it is important to remember, I think, that the 'hole' you are seeing is not a hole. It is merely the downward thrust of the oscillations that the 'light' leaves a shadow of.

asymmetric

But, you are on point, but this gets to be a slippery area.

The 'hole' you are seeing doesn't exist. Just like your infinity symbol.

It is similar to this. It is a convergent point of movement.

q1/2spin
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals

You mean like a reflection. When looking into a lake.

Seer as the tree pic I like.

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Yeah I get lost in the science technicals part...I'm better with feel and visuals too...I figure someday it'll all just click...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna

Me to....Pictures help. lol
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Here ya go BS. LMAO! Glad I could help.

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