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"why do the sky gods continually fight with the earth gods?"
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Why does any of us fight? Why does a husband fight qith his wife. Why does a child fight with his/her parents?
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fighting always starts because one was wronged, not because of fear or jealousy imo
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"why do the sky gods continually fight with the earth gods?"
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Why does any of us fight? Why does a husband fight qith his wife. Why does a child fight with his/her parents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33679896


fighting always starts because one was wronged, not because of fear or jealousy imo
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meant--felt wronged
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"why do the sky gods continually fight with the earth gods?"
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Twas me, that was on my mind when awaking this morning, which was weird loltounge
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Was thinking, what might look like fighting is really dancing?

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Lovely thought
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Agreed.

I just wrote a long post but I think I will forgo posting it, as I like this feeling much better.

:)


Reminds me of this...

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"why do the sky gods continually fight with the earth gods?"
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Why does any of us fight? Why does a husband fight qith his wife. Why does a child fight with his/her parents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33679896


fighting always starts because one was wronged, not because of fear or jealousy imo
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Okay, now I will...

Spoke too soon.

tounge


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Fear.

Which anger is a product of...

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


You fight with your spouse and children because of fear and anger and not live? Ok I am very confused by your words
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I am not sure of your words there.


For example...jealousy.

What is jealousy?

What causes that feeling to rise?

Is it fear of loss?

How do people act when they are jealous?

They become angry and irrational. Paranoid.


Hope this helps.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


i was going to suggest that
jealously and envy are prompts for fighting frequently

i believe
 Quoting: aether


Jealousy is distrust.

To not feel trustful of ones partner calls the connection into question.

What feeling is distrust occupied by?

Fear.

Fear of what?

Fear of being hurt.

Fear of being abandoned.

Fear of being made to 'look a fool'.


Also...

Fearing loss of said partner, which is often turned around to blame that person,for the trigger which caused the jealous feeling, even if said partner is completely innocent.

When it is allowed to run without restraint, people will turn to rage on only a mere suspicion, which often is false.


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"why do the sky gods continually fight with the earth gods?"
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Why does any of us fight? Why does a husband fight qith his wife. Why does a child fight with his/her parents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33679896


fighting always starts because one was wronged, not because of fear or jealousy imo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Okay, now I will...

Spoke too soon.

tounge


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You fight with your spouse and children because of fear and anger and not live? Ok I am very confused by your words
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33679896


I am not sure of your words there.


For example...jealousy.

What is jealousy?

What causes that feeling to rise?

Is it fear of loss?

How do people act when they are jealous?

They become angry and irrational. Paranoid.


Hope this helps.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


i was going to suggest that
jealously and envy are prompts for fighting frequently

i believe
 Quoting: aether


Jealousy is distrust.

To not feel trustful of ones partner calls the connection into question.

What feeling is distrust occupied by?

Fear.

Fear of what?

Fear of being hurt.

Fear of being abandoned.

Fear of being made to 'look a fool'.


Also...

Fearing loss of said partner, which is often turned around to blame that person,for the trigger which caused the jealous feeling, even if said partner is completely innocent.

When it is allowed to run without restraint, people will turn to rage on only a mere suspicion, which often is false.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


I was talking of 'just fights'. To me, that is acting out or provoking not fighting-the precursor to a fight yes.
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Well, i used the spouses and children for a reason."family"

Everybody always keep saying we are all part of the same family. And families fight. So what , its how we learn to become lovely functioning families
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Infact, i would hate to think a father was jealous of his son or a mother of her daughter. Spouses, they are different, what does a woman have to be jealous of over a man, or even envy a man and also the other way around? Nothing in my opinion. Different but equal
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Orange...

Thread: online medical journals about Emerging Infectious Diseases called things like "the orange sweater"
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Infact, i would hate to think a father was jealous of his son or a mother of her daughter. Spouses, they are different, what does a woman have to be jealous of over a man, or even envy a man and also the other way around? Nothing in my opinion. Different but equal
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I agree with that. That is why I didn't think of it as jealousy or fear. A family member usually feels wronged and that is what ensues a fight between them, imo
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

pre cognition
events awaiting to happen is reality
moment by moment of random consequence finally died officially with higgs field confirmation
 Quoting: aether


I am beginning to believe the point behind precognition is, the ability to not only discern WHAT will occur, but be able to do so which such accuracy and KNOWING that one can then alter that which would be considered undesirable for forward progress for the whole or individual, before the 'cause' occurs...or IOW, damage control before the 'damage'.

We choose our tomorrow, today...
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 Quoting: aether

Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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hence the dance
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Anger is also a product of love, I think, but a way different type of anger than of fear.
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Again lovely dance
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If there were no fighting then there would be no making up and to me is the best part of a fight. An elderly married couple once told me their secret to a happy long marriage. It was never go to bed upset
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If there were no fighting then there would be no making up and to me is the best part of a fight. An elderly married couple once told me their secret to a happy long marriage. It was never go to bed upset
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What is the difference between fighting and arguing?

hmm
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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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i did not notice you grumpy
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Depends on ones interpretation i guess seer. Like the examples you gave are more for war inmy opinion and neither fighting or arguing because i likened it to a family and structured it that way...so idk the answer you are looking for with your interpretation
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

pre cognition
events awaiting to happen is reality
moment by moment of random consequence finally died officially with higgs field confirmation
 Quoting: aether


I am beginning to believe the point behind precognition is, the ability to not only discern WHAT will occur, but be able to do so which such accuracy and KNOWING that one can then alter that which would be considered undesirable for forward progress for the whole or individual, before the 'cause' occurs...or IOW, damage control before the 'damage'.

We choose our tomorrow, today...
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: Seer777


I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

...


I am beginning to believe the point behind precognition is, the ability to not only discern WHAT will occur, but be able to do so which such accuracy and KNOWING that one can then alter that which would be considered undesirable for forward progress for the whole or individual, before the 'cause' occurs...or IOW, damage control before the 'damage'.

We choose our tomorrow, today...
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: Seer777


I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf
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Are you saying as you look around at the world that members of families do not experience jealousy among each other?



Take for example a moment in time, you are at a bbq, mutual friends are there are everyone is mingling and having a good time. Ones wife or husband may being to flirt with one of your friends to which you witness.

In a moment you are greeted by two choices.

To either feel jealousy toward that which is viewed, or to let it go.

One is distrust. The other is Trust.

It is choice. In the moment. Every time.

As I said, jealousy is but one example.

hf
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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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i did not notice you grumpy
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I don't talk as much when I am. I had caffeine today ^_^
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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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i did not notice you grumpy
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I don't talk as much when I am. I had caffeine today ^_^
 Quoting: TRIXER


oh
now i notice tounge
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i think this is going to be indra realated

Left-handed spiral galaxies dominate northern skies

And right-handed ones are more common in the south, according to a new survey. What’s going on?
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.technologyreview.com]

Apparently the asymmetry imposed by the obvious chirality bias that we are extends from the sub atomic , living organisms, and through the large scale macro level of galaxies and possibly beyond.Even the magnetic field generated by an electric current has a definite chirality bias as when using the left hand rule.
 Quoting: observation


motive = visible bias
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

...

 Quoting: aether



I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf


Are you saying as you look around at the world that members of families do not experience jealousy among each other?



Take for example a moment in time, you are at a bbq,
 Quoting: Seer777
riends are there are everyone is mingling and having a good time. Ones wife or husband may being to flirt with one of your friends to which you witness.

In a moment you are greeted by two choices.

To either feel jealousy toward that which is viewed, or to let it go.

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istrust. The other is Trust.

It is choice. In the moment. Every time.

As I said, jealousy is but one example.

hf


Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf
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Now the one attacking or provoking is out of fear or jealousy.
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i think this is going to be indra realated

Left-handed spiral galaxies dominate northern skies

And right-handed ones are more common in the south, according to a new survey. What’s going on?
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.technologyreview.com]

Apparently the asymmetry imposed by the obvious chirality bias that we are extends from the sub atomic , living organisms, and through the large scale macro level of galaxies and possibly beyond.Even the magnetic field generated by an electric current has a definite chirality bias as when using the left hand rule.
 Quoting: observation


motive = visible bias
 Quoting: aether


that made me think of this nebula Aether

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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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It has. You kinda changed it up a bit from its origin
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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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I think so, lol Its hard sometimes to have discussions online and not in person, at least for me it is. afro


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