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Depends on ones interpretation i guess seer. Like the examples you gave are more for war inmy opinion and neither fighting or arguing because i likened it to a family and structured it that way...so idk the answer you are looking for with your interpretation
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

pre cognition
events awaiting to happen is reality
moment by moment of random consequence finally died officially with higgs field confirmation
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I am beginning to believe the point behind precognition is, the ability to not only discern WHAT will occur, but be able to do so which such accuracy and KNOWING that one can then alter that which would be considered undesirable for forward progress for the whole or individual, before the 'cause' occurs...or IOW, damage control before the 'damage'.

We choose our tomorrow, today...
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 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: Seer777


I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

...


I am beginning to believe the point behind precognition is, the ability to not only discern WHAT will occur, but be able to do so which such accuracy and KNOWING that one can then alter that which would be considered undesirable for forward progress for the whole or individual, before the 'cause' occurs...or IOW, damage control before the 'damage'.

We choose our tomorrow, today...
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: Seer777


I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf
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Are you saying as you look around at the world that members of families do not experience jealousy among each other?



Take for example a moment in time, you are at a bbq, mutual friends are there are everyone is mingling and having a good time. Ones wife or husband may being to flirt with one of your friends to which you witness.

In a moment you are greeted by two choices.

To either feel jealousy toward that which is viewed, or to let it go.

One is distrust. The other is Trust.

It is choice. In the moment. Every time.

As I said, jealousy is but one example.

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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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i did not notice you grumpy
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I don't talk as much when I am. I had caffeine today ^_^
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So I missed it... but what is the relation with orange today?
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i did not notice you grumpy
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I don't talk as much when I am. I had caffeine today ^_^
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oh
now i notice tounge
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i think this is going to be indra realated

Left-handed spiral galaxies dominate northern skies

And right-handed ones are more common in the south, according to a new survey. What’s going on?
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.technologyreview.com]

Apparently the asymmetry imposed by the obvious chirality bias that we are extends from the sub atomic , living organisms, and through the large scale macro level of galaxies and possibly beyond.Even the magnetic field generated by an electric current has a definite chirality bias as when using the left hand rule.
 Quoting: observation


motive = visible bias
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Also...jealousy is only a single example in the myriad of reasons that fighting occurs.

I was just trying to show how Anger is a product of Fear.

Fear of loss...of something.


The point is to understand where it is coming from so one has a better understanding of how to deal with their own emotions.

A bit like 'seeing the ripple' before it comes, and being able to adjust accordingly for a more favorable result. Not allowing oneself to fall into anger or paranoia due to perceived triggers.


A bit like this...

I hope this makes sense.

...

 Quoting: aether



I see this as when we don't know each other, not a family, type of fighting because there is no trust built so fear or jealousy is in place until one chooses to trust, fear, or walk away.
I get what your saying and I agree when it pertains to an unknown person.hf


Are you saying as you look around at the world that members of families do not experience jealousy among each other?



Take for example a moment in time, you are at a bbq,
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riends are there are everyone is mingling and having a good time. Ones wife or husband may being to flirt with one of your friends to which you witness.

In a moment you are greeted by two choices.

To either feel jealousy toward that which is viewed, or to let it go.

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istrust. The other is Trust.

It is choice. In the moment. Every time.

As I said, jealousy is but one example.

hf


Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf
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Now the one attacking or provoking is out of fear or jealousy.
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i think this is going to be indra realated

Left-handed spiral galaxies dominate northern skies

And right-handed ones are more common in the south, according to a new survey. What’s going on?
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.technologyreview.com]

Apparently the asymmetry imposed by the obvious chirality bias that we are extends from the sub atomic , living organisms, and through the large scale macro level of galaxies and possibly beyond.Even the magnetic field generated by an electric current has a definite chirality bias as when using the left hand rule.
 Quoting: observation


motive = visible bias
 Quoting: aether


that made me think of this nebula Aether

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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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It has. You kinda changed it up a bit from its origin
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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.

Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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I think so, lol Its hard sometimes to have discussions online and not in person, at least for me it is. afro
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You chose to take the lovely dance of a family and make it a battle of who was right. Again thats just my opinion of it...if it dont suit you lets twist it until it does
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It has. You kinda changed it up a bit from its origin
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Yeah, I do that.

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Of course not, everyone has experienced jealousy. My point of view is this as example:

Say someone is attacking you or another, do you walk away or let them attack? Not me, I'd fight. That as the fighter is not about jealousy or fear but as being wronged because their free will and space was invaded or an innocents was. hf

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.
Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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Seen it happen many times growing up...and once to myself. They just stood and watched me get my ass kicked. No help from the guys or my girlfriends...but oh well when it's 9 against one in the projects what are ya gonna do? :P

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You chose to take the lovely dance of a family and make it a battle of who was right. Again thats just my opinion of it...if it dont suit you lets twist it until it does
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No, I was attempting to show you the connection between anger and fear.

Simple as that.


It crosses all aspects of humanity in day to day interaction.

What is a 'family'?
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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.
Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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Seen it happen many times growing up...and once to myself. They just stood and watched me get my ass kicked. No help from the guys or my girlfriends...but oh well when it's 9 against one in the projects what are ya gonna do? :P

hf
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Yes. I remember them well in high school. One time I watched a good friend of mine bite part of the ear off another.

...

It was later re-attached.


I have only struck someone out of anger once, and it was my younger brother when I young.

I felt badly about it, and have apologized to him several times over the years, as I carry guilt over it. Although, I was quite young, I realized the wrong I had done and have never physically struck another since.

Plus...I am small, and would probably lose.

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That's horrible spirit:(
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Are you speaking of physical violence?

As I was speaking of why couples have emotional arguments, which we also call 'fighting'.

Physical violence occurs when one loses control of themselves. I would hope very few would stand around to watch another be brutalized physically.
Perhaps this entire conversation has been lost in translation somewhere.

scratching
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Seen it happen many times growing up...and once to myself. They just stood and watched me get my ass kicked. No help from the guys or my girlfriends...but oh well when it's 9 against one in the projects what are ya gonna do? :P

hf
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Yes. I remember them well in high school. One time I watched a good friend of mine bite part of the ear off another.

...

It was later re-attached.


I have only struck someone out of anger once, and it was my younger brother when I young.

I felt badly about it, and have apologized to him several times over the years, as I carry guilt over it. Although, I was quite young, I realized the wrong I had done and have never physically struck another since.

Plus...I am small, and would probably lose.

tounge
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Being the only natives girls in my high school...I had to learn early on to stick up for myself. I never started the fights but I did end them. After freshman year I had no problems whatsoever...I hung with the puerto ricans, blacks, spanish girls...so it was not bad at all after that. I remember one time this cheerleader small girl had some problem with a friend of mine. This cheerleader was so stuck up and mean to my friend but we always got along. One day my she came up to me with almost a black eye swollen lip crying cause they got into it in the bathroom...saying can you please help me? If you can kick her ass for me I will pay you whatever you want. I laughed in her face and said no. Fight your own battles...you are a bitch to her constantly. Anyway my friend heard about that and well she got a worse beating. I didn't see it...heard about it over the phone that night...fact is this is a tough world...everyone's on their own when it comes to that type of stuff...
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I would have to think on emotional fighting. Oh, like the yin yang dance-one fear, one react and its like that with all degrees of fighting. I think you, seer, was picking up the fear part/person and I was picking up the react/defensive part/person. There is always two.scratching
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oops double post :)

That was weird I only changed one post but it changed both of them...oh well lol

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hey,, songs,,

the color of the store reflected in the rain on the sidewalk is awesome,,

no jay walking though,,

and be safe,,

grab some candy,, and and enjoy the great british experience indeed,,

(jk),,

much love,,
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I weakened with Monster munch pickled onion flavour, it made me laugh to read a monster on the packet saying...

Pickled Onion. Where have you been? "Living the dream! I've experienced many things, but nothing compares to those early days together as a group of young monsters.

Which made me laugh as I often enjoyed them as a child.


Young at heart the message :)
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I would have to think on emotional fighting. Oh, like the yin yang dance-one fear, one react and its like that with all degrees of fighting. I think you, seer, was picking up the fear part/person and I was picking up the react/defensive part/person. There is always two.scratching
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and the defensive person has the two choices, either action/hope or inaction/fear
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I would have to think on emotional fighting. Oh, like the yin yang dance-one fear, one react and its like that with all degrees of fighting. I think you, seer, was picking up the fear part/person and I was picking up the react/defensive part/person. There is always two.scratching
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Yes...the 'cause'.

cause----effect

action---reaction


How does one stop a thought?

The space between. Where one is offered a choice.

It is the same thing. Choosing where to point ones focus in a moment of emotional intensity.

To not be a 'slave' to ones emotions...IOW. To become less reactive as far as acting on negative emotion. To realize where it is coming from and take a moment to reflect the best course of action.


Sometimes it is little more than the fear of 'losing face' which will cause anger and violence.

Does this make sense?

balance3

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love that picture see7,,

where is it from?

much love,,
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I love it too.

:)



I don't remember where I found it. But when I saw it, I was instantly attracted to it.

To me it speaks of great patience in the act of creating something beautiful.

It is also an act of devotion and love, of stillness and attention to detail and colour...

:PisforPatience:
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They make quite a few of these so am likely mistaken, but a group of buddists created a very similar mandala at the Royal Academy, London in the 80/90's?, after it was finished they poured it into the Thames. I think my father has the exhibition book so I will ask him next time I visit.

I saw it in mid-creation and it was stunning!

At one time I was interested to study Tibetan art and mandalas, but it was a 7 year apprenticeship before I got to pick up a paintbrush! I thought it would probably take longer than 7 years to still my mind lol

hf
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love that picture see7,,

where is it from?

much love,,
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I love it too.

:)



I don't remember where I found it. But when I saw it, I was instantly attracted to it.

To me it speaks of great patience in the act of creating something beautiful.

It is also an act of devotion and love, of stillness and attention to detail and colour...

PisforPatience
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They make quite a few of these so am likely mistaken, but a group of buddists created a very similar mandala at the Royal Academy, London in the 80/90's?, after it was finished they poured it into the Thames. I think my father has the exhibition book so I will ask him next time I visit.

I saw it in mid-creation and it was stunning!

At one time I was interested to study Tibetan art and mandalas, but it was a 7 year apprenticeship before I got to pick up a paintbrush! I thought it would probably take longer than 7 years to still my mind lol

hf
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7 years before you could pick up a paint brush?

Why?


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I would have to think on emotional fighting. Oh, like the yin yang dance-one fear, one react and its like that with all degrees of fighting. I think you, seer, was picking up the fear part/person and I was picking up the react/defensive part/person. There is always two.scratching
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Yes...the 'cause'.

cause----effect

action---reaction


How does one stop a thought?

The space between. Where one is offered a choice.

It is the same thing. Choosing where to point ones focus in a moment of emotional intensity.

To not be a 'slave' to ones emotions...IOW. To become less reactive as far as acting on negative emotion. To realize where it is coming from and take a moment to reflect the best course of action.


Sometimes it is little more than the fear of 'losing face' which will cause anger and violence.

Does this make sense?

:balance3:
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Yes. My question now would be about the 'cause'. Is the cause only two as well? Fear or love=motive

bold(choice)being the fulcrum point
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Sand mandalas are really pretty.
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I would have to think on emotional fighting. Oh, like the yin yang dance-one fear, one react and its like that with all degrees of fighting. I think you, seer, was picking up the fear part/person and I was picking up the react/defensive part/person. There is always two.scratching
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


Yes...the 'cause'.

cause----effect

action---reaction


How does one stop a thought?

The space between. Where one is offered a choice.

It is the same thing. Choosing where to point ones focus in a moment of emotional intensity.

To not be a 'slave' to ones emotions...IOW. To become less reactive as far as acting on negative emotion. To realize where it is coming from and take a moment to reflect the best course of action.


Sometimes it is little more than the fear of 'losing face' which will cause anger and violence.

Does this make sense?

balance3
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Yes. My question now would be about the 'cause'. Is the cause only two as well? Fear or love=motive

bold(choice)being the fulcrum point
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Yes.

The space between...

Where one chooses how to react to a certain stimuli.


For example I just posted this elsewhere.


Your contract is almost up demon.


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Wow...that was really harsh.


Do you feel you have judged this person properly Kathryn?

After having reflected on it for awhile, do you feel you acted judiciously? Or was it reflecting emotion and fear in your judgement.

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