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Belief is bias. I hold that statement as knowledge, not belief, lol. Belief depends on faith, not knowledge. Knowledge depends on information, both subjective and objective, that fits the parameters of truth, call it a root suspicion... and it can change as information changes. Belief often cannot, new information brings dissonance to those locked into the "believer" mindset. That being said, belief functions as an awesome temporary tool to focus an effect from a cause.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Oh, I agree. ‘Belief is bias’ is the mantra of sociological statistics. Enabling a literal independent variable for ‘ambivalence'. The Null hypothesis is viewed very differently in Sociological stats.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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I don't worry much about studies as they're biased, too, lol. You know that. I'm not a statistics chick... I kind of figure 87% of statistics are made up. There's a belief bias deep inside any aspect being studied, values are tweaked to get the desired result. It's Heisenberg at work, when you watch something, you skew it by the simple act of observation. In effect, researchers become a value inside their own experiment.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Some are geared toward simplicity, that's the approach that gets them where they need to be. But there are some who are geared toward complexity, which gets there where they need to be. We can talk all we like about how we get there, but it's our path, no one elses. That being said, there are many different levels of consciousness and understanding. For some meditation/chakras/etc are a step forward, for some they're a step back (just using that as an example, there's many different concepts that are like that). Since I get wordy, will try to wrap it up quickly, lol. We can't disparage the path of others without stepping off our own individual paths.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


I agree Bea...

But there is a bit more.


The greatest of our 'Teachers' can take that which is the most complex, and make it Simple.


In that...

It reaches or Touches...the Masses.

:kallisti:


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 Quoting: Seer777


I have no interest in educating the masses beyond the ripple effect. The only one who can educate you is you. I can make someone aware of what I know and then point the way, but teachers work best when they merely guide... else the weak elevate and worship the teacher and not the teaching. The apple I gave you? Primary point... Eris didn't "cause" the war by giving it, it was the actions after that brought things low, the reaction to being faced with the greed and desire to be the "prettiest one"... which we ALL are in our own mind's eye. Simple things are lost with me, I have no desire for them. I'm a complex creature that thrives on complexity and ambiguity. Hence it's difficult to teach me (neither a guru leader nor a guru follower, I)... I learn best when left alone to figure things out on my own. There are many like me. I just wanted to mention that lest you forget us unicorns, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


"An elephant never forgets" <---Miss you Shrike.

tounge


The ripples are the point.


One can not give another learning.

Learning is self-effacing.


It is a choice of the learner...they either choose to incorporate or ignore.

Touched timidly for proper perspective.




'The Apple'.

Stands for many things.


I only recently learned of it's symbolic nature with Eris and have never utilized it in that context.



For me the apple stands for

"Original Sin"...Choice.


Tree of Knowledge.


Forbidden Fruit.


Also, 'Teachers' were often rumored to be given 'apples'.



Also, 'Golden' apple.


Golden Age.

"Follow the Yellow brick road.

The next evolutionary step.


Hidden in plain sight...


See it?

I know you do.

wink


When does 'Faith' become KNOWING?


Adam and Eve Mic

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Lol, I always used it in the context of Eris, it's her apple, says so right on it, lmao! I don't think anyone could accuse me of being self effacing, it's just not in my nature. I'm healthily egotistical and self centered... as centered in self as my own senses and perceptions are the only ones I can express and anything I've taught myself will only come through my own internal bias and filters. I freely exchange my own perceptions and if it's a staging board for someone else, that's cool. If it's not, that's cool, too. I'm like a take a penny, leave a penny tray at the cosmic convenience store, lol.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I'm not a statistics chick...

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I failed Statistics 352 twice my senior year in college.


"Like being horse whipped" is what I would tell friends.


Unfortunately, it was necessary for my major.


Was the only class I ever failed.

I took it for the 3rd time my very last term...and scraped by with a C-.

Horrible stuff.



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And you'll have to answer your own question concerning when faith becomes knowing. At the end of the day, the only thing I can really muster faith in is my own ability to adapt and change with new information and express it as it feels at that moment in time. I'm a great photographer, those snap shots ripple and flow from me and back to me when we all go time traveling. I'm flexible like that. So I really have no dog in the faith becoming knowing fight.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I'm not a statistics chick...

 Quoting: Bea Nameless


I failed Statistics 352 twice my senior year in college.


"Like being horse whipped" is what I would tell friends.


Unfortunately, it was necessary for my major.


Was the only class I ever failed.

I took it for the 3rd time my very last term...and scraped by with a C-.

Horrible stuff.



tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


With me, it's this internal suspicion that the bureaucrats and bean counters will be the ones who tear down the sandbox. I can't be complicit in that, in labeling and categorizing things that shouldn't be mucked with. Those faceless bastards are just as responsible for the clusterfuck we're in now as the facemen and women. Probably more so. There's no compassion in statistics, just meaningless numbers that relegate some to more and some to less.

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"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I'm a great photographer, those snap shots ripple and flow from me and back to me when we all go time traveling.

 Quoting: Bea Nameless


happyheart


EARTH

earth


The Muses Rise.

wink



Yep...I went there...again.

lol.


To BE like water and wind.

And flow...

thewind
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I don't worry much about studies as they're biased, too, lol. You know that. I'm not a statistics chick... I kind of figure 87% of statistics are made up. There's a belief bias deep inside any aspect being studied, values are tweaked to get the desired result. It's Heisenberg at work, when you watch something, you skew it by the simple act of observation. In effect, researchers become a value inside their own experiment.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


That is my point. Sociological stats were set up knowing numbers could and would be manipulated. How do we even think we get to the concept of ‘indebtedness’ in both spirit and structural reality? The field itself was set up to measure philosophy. While knowing philosophy at core is belief. The Null hypothesis only appears to be Dull. lol Well, it is weighing ambivalence along the way. It only appears to slow down communications, i.e. Saturn.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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I'm actually more of a super-sized value meal of fire and air with medium sized side orders of water and earth. If you saw my chart... well, it explains all the cosmic contradictions and why I just roll with it instead of playing a part that doesn't suit my nature. It's my way of owning the series of oppositions and configurations of energy the universe spat at me when I popped out.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I don't worry much about studies as they're biased, too, lol. You know that. I'm not a statistics chick... I kind of figure 87% of statistics are made up. There's a belief bias deep inside any aspect being studied, values are tweaked to get the desired result. It's Heisenberg at work, when you watch something, you skew it by the simple act of observation. In effect, researchers become a value inside their own experiment.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


That is my point. Sociological stats were set up knowing numbers could and would be manipulated. How do we even think we get to the concept of ‘indebtedness’ in both spirit and structural reality? The field itself was set up to measure philosophy. While knowing philosophy at core is belief. The Null hypothesis only appears to be Dull. lol Well, it is weighing ambivalence along the way. It only appears to slow down communications, i.e. Saturn.
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


I would think that's the point, for some. They understand the damage weighing and measuring does... some don't and are just fascinated and can't leave it alone.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I'm actually more of a super-sized value meal of fire and air with medium sized side orders of water and earth. If you saw my chart... well, it explains all the cosmic contradictions and

why I just roll with it instead of playing a part that doesn't suit my nature.

It's my way of owning the series of oppositions and configurations of energy the universe spat at me when I popped out.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Excellent.


I think that's the point.

To attempt to perfect ones nature.


As long as IT...does no harm.


To balance one Ego and lose Self in the sense of the 'Me' and incorporate the 'We'.

In that sense 'trauma' does not linger, but instead can be taken as a lesson.



United we stand.


Which reminds me of Genghis Khan's mother and her bundle of sticks...without the ugliness which followed.

Whom he did choose to spare on his conquests however, is quite interesting.

wink


Much love all.

I am off to sleep.

bb tomorrow.


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Individuals have two levels, the unknowable one to any but themselves and the knowable level that connects to the ALL. Both are equally necessary and valid. When we center in self, know ourselves, we connect with the ALL more readily as we relate to others based on our own experiences. And we do unto others as we wish them to do unto us. That being said, I have no drive toward perfection... that would create a very boring universe. The beauty of the individual shines through their endearing quirks and flaws, not the ones that are external as in affecting others negatively, but the internal ones that keep us grounded and seeking.

For instance, if I weren't clumsy, I'd miss out on loads of self-deprecating laughter that invited others to admit their own insecurities and accept themselves more. Why? When you see someone who potentially has it together stumble and they laugh it off, they invite others to laugh, too... and there's less resentment for the having it together part. It's not laughing at someone's misery, but genuine acknowledgment that perfection isn't necessary or attainable. If I can laugh at myself when I fall, so can you, so can everyone. Plus it keeps the ego in check and allows you to see the basic equality of the human experience.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I have found that what goes in the stomach comes out. Food does nothing to impaire or enhance. That is dependency on the body to produce results and not the mind of the soul or spirit. "To bend the spoon, that is impossible. You must understand it is you who bends."

Intuition/abilities are not dependent on the body.

That has been my experiance. There isnt the right combination of yoga moves to enhance anything. Focus comes from within not from without.

The mind, not to be confused with the brain. The brain is simply a tool.

The mind sees with perfect clarity using no eye balls. If it wasnt true, you would never be able to view your body from above it and the surroundings with perfect clarity, while the heart itself sends no signal.
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This is true as I for one totally agree. Perhaps this post is not for this select audience but others who don't possess or know about such concepts.

I think it would be hard to tell many people yeah that KFC and donut can be transmuted into rock hard flesh so you look like them fitness models much less that liver performs alchemy (most of the population have no clue what alchemy means.) Or oh yeah this is how you can heal someone with a ball of light like a star (I've tried :))

Stepping stones. Some people need to experience things gradually in my experience. Otherwise they look at you like what planet are you from.

The masses need something more

tangible in my opinion of course I could be wrong altogether. Maybe if enough of us start levitating en masse and reading their minds they'll start to believe! Until then...
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Hiya Germany...

wave


"Simplicity.

Ask what is it in itself?"

wink






Hi Seer!

How r u?

Simplicity - doing or making sense in short order hopefully.:)
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Hey Seer,

Any idea on that "nobody" thread where those people "say" they were helped from 5/29 in your post above. What is THAT all about? People screwing off or what?
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that`s funny 1rof1 feedback

How many "einstein crosses" have been observed?
What's the probability of that configuration to happen?

I've found this article claiming a new one found.
[link to iopscience.iop.org]
 Quoting: observation




Einstein Cross


The Einstein Cross or Q2237+030 or QSO 2237+0305 is a gravitationally lensed quasar that sits directly behind ZW 2237+030, Huchra's Lens. Four images of the same distant quasar appear around a foreground galaxy due to strong gravitational lensing...............
 Quoting: observation

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Aether...could you explain more why you said cross=mask?

Ty
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that`s clever
so the mark of the cross is "fingers crossed"

what it is is never what is says to those whom know
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Individuals have two levels, the unknowable one to any but themselves and the knowable level that connects to the ALL. Both are equally necessary and valid. When we center in self, know ourselves, we connect with the ALL more readily as we relate to others based on our own experiences. And we do unto others as we wish them to do unto us. That being said, I have no drive toward perfection... that would create a very boring universe. The beauty of the individual shines through their endearing quirks and flaws, not the ones that are external as in affecting others negatively, but the internal ones that keep us grounded and seeking.

For instance, if I weren't clumsy, I'd miss out on loads of self-deprecating laughter that invited others to admit their own insecurities and accept themselves more. Why? When you see someone who potentially has it together stumble and they laugh it off, they invite others to laugh, too... and there's less resentment for the having it together part. It's not laughing at someone's misery, but genuine acknowledgment that perfection isn't necessary or attainable. If I can laugh at myself when I fall, so can you, so can everyone. Plus it keeps the ego in check and allows you to see the basic equality of the human experience.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless

To be able to laugh at yourself, is such a release......I wish everyone could do it. They would be much happier :)
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:weirdchalk:

Saw this at the park a little while ago, wonder what it means!??

Looks like a monster who loves ice cream and tennishiding
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Hey Seer,

Any idea on that "nobody" thread where those people "say" they were helped from 5/29 in your post above. What is THAT all about? People screwing off or what?
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5/29?

I am not sure to which post you allude. Can you link it?




Morning all.

hf
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that feels like it fits seer

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WOW!
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Thread: AWESOME new Crop Circle!
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hahaha

good timing

good morning
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that feels like it fits seer

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WOW!
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Thread: AWESOME new Crop Circle!
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A cube circled. Now that one looks like it was done by something other than humans, lol
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good morning blue
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A cube circled. Now that one looks like it was done by something other than humans, lol
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remember what we know:

hoop = circle = vortice in reality

vortice = singular effect of 2 causes = field + charge

so what does the hoop/circle tell us ?

why things move
how things move

so all information is placed within a hoop/circle to signify that the information you are telling within the hoop/circle you know to be true because you show by symbol/sign that you know how and why the information inside the hoop/circle is so
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that feels like it fits seer

Hackpen Hill (3), nr Broad Hinton. Wiltshire. Reported 26th August.

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WOW!
 Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow


Thread: AWESOME new Crop Circle!
 Quoting: aether


Awesome indeed.


Which takes me back to the Thoth thread from 2 nights ago.


I noticed the cube in the OP's second drawing.

[link to s1262.photobucket.com]

The colors in the circles seem to be pushed down from the top to the bottom moving one over in clockwise direction.

3 six-pointed stars inside a circle, inside a pentagon, inside the cube.



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following the completion of 4
confirmed by the circle...............

hoop = circle = vortice in reality

vortice = singular effect of 2 causes = field + charge

so what does the hoop/circle tell us ?

why things move
how things move

so all information is placed within a hoop/circle to signify that the information you are telling within the hoop/circle you know to be true because you show by symbol/sign that you know how and why the information inside the hoop/circle is so
 Quoting: aether


...


Pentagon love. Which self replicates in and out into infinity.

5 sides

5 points

5 triangles


hugs
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if we seeing 5 form in process
and it feels we are

i`m impressed

so you know tounge
 Quoting: aether


so the signal we anticipated and experienced from our sun last june was the 3 signal of the 3, 6 and 9 regulatory sequence of our sun adjusting/regulating our solar system environment within it`s heliosphere in response to the denser plasma entering into our suns heliosphere causing higher charge generally
the denser plasma causes earths atmosphere to generally become of higher charge content also hence our atmosphere is now exposed to differing input of charge from our sun to regulate the influence of the denser plasma effect

an effect noticeable in part by the upswing of fireballs/plasmoids/orbs within our sky generally globally

this regulating process of our sun will continue and we are not anticipating the 6 signal any time soon
 Quoting: aether


c where we are going rockon
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sequence:

Fuller proposed that the tetrahedron, octahedron and icosahedron were the most important building blocks of nature. Fuller was the first to describe the tetrahedron as the simplest structural system with insideness and outsideness, and it was his most important building block, the form on which the rest of synergetic geometry hinged. The tetrahedron, with its four faces and four vertexes, was the three-dimensional form that could contain the least volume. It was the simplest "system" containing a set of relationships. Regardless of the earlier references to the family of regular polyhedra and their significance in life's architecture on a moving, spherical earth, humans had latched onto the cube as the main building block of mathematics. For Fuller, the 90 degree angles of the cube were a side effect or "precessional effect" of various processes in a universe of angles, curves and arcs. His cube was inscribed by the duotet, two interpenetrating tetrahedra whose eight outer points met cube's eight vertices and gave it an inherent stability.
 Quoting: observation

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the cube is a segment of sequence, an effect which is the cause of all effect that follows being it`self an effect of it`s cause

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A cube circled. Now that one looks like it was done by something other than humans, lol
 Quoting: Blue Skies


remember what we know:

hoop = circle = vortice in reality

vortice = singular effect of 2 causes = field + charge

so what does the hoop/circle tell us ?

why things move
how things move

so all information is placed within a hoop/circle to signify that the information you are telling within the hoop/circle you know to be true because you show by symbol/sign that you know how and why the information inside the hoop/circle is so
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether

I wonder what is inside that cube.....Made me think of pandora's box :) Should it ever be opened.
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I wonder what is inside that cube.....Made me think of pandora's box :) Should it ever be opened.
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the cube "contains" the environmental energy (information) that forms and sustains it`s structure

the cubes structure fully formed forces all structure that follows it`s formation to construct in the sequence (order) the environmental energy (information) dictates

In his 1938 lecture, Tesla said he was progressing with the work, and hoped to give the theory to the world "very soon", so it was clearly his intent to "give it to the world", as soon as he had completed his secret developments.

The "two great discoveries" to which Tesla referred, were:

1. The Dynamic Theory of Gravity - which assumed a field of force which accounts for the motions of bodies in space; assumption of this field of force dispenses with the concept of space curvature (ala Einstein); the ether has an indispensable function in the phenomena (of universal gravity, inertia, momentum, and movement of heavenly bodies, as well as all atomic and molecular matter); and,

2. Environmental Energy - the Discovery of a new physical Truth: there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.
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that feels like it fits seer

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A cube circled. Now that one looks like it was done by something other than humans, lol
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Wow. I want to believe humans have gotten to such perfect depth perception. Morning.
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